Do you want to see the Dail Grow Up

Sir Humphrey Appleby · 12-07-2013 11:30PM

WIZE wrote: »

Ban Point scoring- Suits compulsory - Question dodging prohibited - compulsory attendance a number of days a year - Dail bar closed before and during Dail is in session - Horseplay banned.

Dail = Professional Politics

Nah, they are more fun this way!

Thwip! · 13-07-2013 12:18AM

The reveal about the bar being open till 5 was wholly embarrassing. We're already known the world over as heavy drinkers, when voting on something as heavy as abortion did we really need to send out that image of ourselves?

hatrickpatrick · 14-07-2013 05:40PM

patrickbrophy18 wrote: »

I'd be inclined to disagree with you. When representing a country in the Dail, suits should be mandatory or at the very least slacks, loafers, a shirt, a tie and a blazer. For instance, Mick Wallace is setting a very bad example given that his dress code not mention, hairstyle look like a novelty set. It really is taking the piss when a politician turns up to a professional (or supposed to be) conference looking like Harry from "Dumb & Dumber" gone wrong. It is also a bad reflection of the standards (or lack there of) in the country. Politicians should be professional in every sense including dress code.

What difference does it make? The only thing that matters about a politician is their character, behavior and policies. I couldn't care less if they decide to come to work in clown suits as long as they do their job and aren't corrupt about it.
I apply that to everything though. If I ever end up running a company, idiotic and archaic things like that will be the first to go. What someone wears is completely and utterly irrelevant to whether they can get their job done or not.

hatrickpatrick · 14-07-2013 05:42PM

Aidric wrote: »

It's called a whip system.

Exactly, and it's wholly undemocratic. The question is still relevant: WHY debate anything in the Dail when we already know the outcome of any debate, regardless of its content?
The whip system removes the ability of the people to dictate how their representatives vote with public pressure, we can hardly call ourselves a democracy when that's how our government operates.

Whips should be left in the bedroom where they belong. :pac:

Hotblack Desiato · 14-07-2013 08:00PM

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

The whip system removes the ability of the people to dictate how their representatives vote with public pressure

Yeah, like a mob is democratically representative.
YD protesting outside people's houses, and lone nutters putting sh1t through letterboxes and posting plastic foetuses is not democracy in action.

If I vote for a member of a party I expect them to represent a party position. 3 out of the 5 FG rebels are from Dublin constituencies, it's a safe bet that they did NOT represent the views of their constituents when they voted against the bill.

Who knew that a lot of the FG new intake of TDs were a bunch of closet religious nutters? I bet they kept quiet about that pre-election.

Dempsey · 14-07-2013 08:29PM

Aidric wrote: »

I'm no old codger but the spectacle of having some deputies voting on a matter of the magnitude of abortion with a few drinks on board was extremely embarrassing.

Its not like most of them had a choice in the vote. They voted whatever way their party leader told them to

Hotblack Desiato · 14-07-2013 08:42PM

Dempsey wrote: »

Its not like most of them had a choice in the vote. They voted whatever way their party leader told them to

And one of them couldn't even get that right.

wolfpawnat · 14-07-2013 08:59PM

1ZRed wrote: »

The Dail should be bulldozed. What a waste of space

What have you got against the Mansion House?

Leinster House is a beautiful building with a history outside of the politics since the 1920's, leave it alone.

OT - grow up? that would suggest the ability to develop in intelligence!

darkhorse · 14-07-2013 10:00PM

ninja900 wrote: »

And one of them couldn't even get that right.

He was probably looking at his hair in the mirror and pressed the wrong button.:eek:

hatrickpatrick · 15-07-2013 04:30PM

ninja900 wrote: »

Yeah, like a mob is democratically representative.
YD protesting outside people's houses, and lone nutters putting sh1t through letterboxes and posting plastic foetuses is not democracy in action.

If I vote for a member of a party I expect them to represent a party position. 3 out of the 5 FG rebels are from Dublin constituencies, it's a safe bet that they did NOT represent the views of their constituents when they voted against the bill.

Who knew that a lot of the FG new intake of TDs were a bunch of closet religious nutters? I bet they kept quiet about that pre-election.

If I vote for anyone I expect them to represent the people of the constituency. That's how democracy is supposed to work, by electing people you're voting for or against legislation by proxy. Their allegiance should be to the people of their constituency and not to any other subset, be that corporate interests, lobby groups, party leaders, or anyone else.

Do you want to see the Dail Grow Up

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