Do you want to see the Dail Grow Up

WIZE · 12-07-2013 07:05PM #1

Ban Point scoring- Suits compulsory - Question dodging prohibited - compulsory attendance a number of days a year - Dail bar closed before and during Dail is in session - Horseplay banned.

Dail = Professional Politics

lkionm · 12-07-2013 07:10PM

I just hope when it grows up it will have boobies

Radiosonde · 12-07-2013 07:11PM

lkionm wrote: »

I just hope when it grows up it will have boobies

Tom Barry could fondle them.

12-07-2013 07:14PM

Let them wear what they want. All we need to do is look around the world, and look at how many suit wearers cause untold misery.

I think the idea that someone wearing a suit is more professional, is unadulterated hogwash.

Aidric · 12-07-2013 07:15PM

I'm no old codger but the spectacle of having some deputies voting on a matter of the magnitude of abortion with a few drinks on board was extremely embarrassing.

hatrickpatrick · 12-07-2013 07:25PM

I was with you until the suits part. What someone wears is completely and utterly irrelevant to their skill at any particular job; Uniforms of any kind are a relic of a bygone era (unless working in a job in which a uniform is actually a practical necessity)

Peregrine · 12-07-2013 07:26PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Let them wear what they want.

Don't they already?

Have you heard of a certain Mick Wallace?

12-07-2013 07:29PM

Nimrod 7 wrote: »

Don't they already?

Have you heard of a certain Mick Wallace?

Yup, I was just talking about the OP wanting suits to be compulsory.

kneemos · 12-07-2013 07:30PM

Aidric wrote: »

I'm no old codger but the spectacle of having some deputies voting on a matter of the magnitude of abortion with a few drinks on board was extremely embarrassing.

Everyone was voting yes anyway drunk or not,its not like they made up their mind on the night.

Peregrine · 12-07-2013 07:30PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Yup, I was just talking about the OP wanting suits to be compulsory.

Oops how did I miss that. Yeah that would be a stupid idea. Let them wear what they want.

Hande hoche! · 12-07-2013 07:33PM

They should just wear hessian sacks to cut costs.

goulders · 12-07-2013 07:34PM

big hats and red noses for the bunch of clowns

1ZRed · 12-07-2013 07:35PM

The Dail should be bulldozed. What a waste of space

Sh1tbag OToole · 12-07-2013 07:36PM

Just ban alcohol from that place altogether. People arent allowed to drink and drive lest they might kill themselves and maybe another person. Yet the lads in the Dail will vote for stuff that will affect people for generations, but somehow its acceptable to be after a few pints when you're doing that

P_1 · 12-07-2013 07:42PM

Sh1tbag OToole wrote: »

Just ban alcohol from that place altogether. People arent allowed to drink and drive lest they might kill themselves and maybe another person. Yet the lads in the Dail will vote for stuff that will affect people for generations, but somehow its acceptable to be after a few pints when you're doing that

It doesn't really matter if they're 3 sheets to the wind though, they've already been told what way to vote. Now they should get rid of the subsidy in the bar though

Sand · 12-07-2013 07:43PM

I wouldn't be in favor of suits as a rule tbh. Not in weather like this.

Hootanany · 12-07-2013 07:44PM

How much is a pint in the bar

WIZE · 12-07-2013 07:47PM

Hootanany wrote: »

How much is a pint in the bar

€3.50 I believe

BattleCorp · 12-07-2013 07:48PM

Sh1tbag OToole wrote: »

Just ban alcohol from that place altogether. People arent allowed to drink and drive lest they might kill themselves and maybe another person. Yet the lads in the Dail will vote for stuff that will affect people for generations, but somehow its acceptable to be after a few pints when you're doing that

I can't be drunk in my workplace so why is acceptable for them to be drunk in theirs?

Aidric · 12-07-2013 07:50PM

kneemos wrote: »

Everyone was voting yes anyway drunk or not,its not like they made up their mind on the night.

P_1 wrote: »

It doesn't really matter if they're 3 sheets to the wind though, they've already been told what way to vote. Now they should get rid of the subsidy in the bar though

Seriously? By all means let them have a drink after the order of business has ceased for the day. Some deputies were drinking on the job, that cannot be excused. In any other job you're on the road for that, let alone in a job where you are voting on landmark state legislation.

HondaSami · 12-07-2013 07:52PM

kneemos wrote: »

Everyone was voting yes anyway drunk or not,its not like they made up their mind on the night.

Fair point but they could have at least stayed sober and shown some professionalism. The dail bar should be shut down, drinking at work is not acceptable anywhere else.
I'm sure they all stayed in Dublin for the night paid for by us tax payers.

Firefox11 · 12-07-2013 07:53PM

We have a code of conduct where I work. Does one not exist for our public representatives? I certainly think they should be.

If any of that carry on that we saw in the dail went on where I work there would be serious reprimands handed out up to and including dismissal.:eek:

Redshift · 12-07-2013 08:05PM

It doesn't matter if the whip system dictates what way they vote. What they do is serious work which affects an entire nation of people. They should show us the people, their possition as representatives of us the people and the institution in which they serve a little more respect.

Drinking on the job is unacceptable everywhere in the private and public sector and so it should be in the dail. It is time for these people to remember who they work for, grow up and act like the professionals they would have us believe they are instead of the national embarrassment and constant disappointing shambles they actually are.

Aidric · 12-07-2013 08:22PM

Further still and a more important point, if you expect young people to become engaged in politics, bollixology like this isn't going to achieve that aim.

patrickbrophy18 · 12-07-2013 09:41PM

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

I was with you until the suits part. What someone wears is completely and utterly irrelevant to their skill at any particular job; Uniforms of any kind are a relic of a bygone era (unless working in a job in which a uniform is actually a practical necessity)

I'd be inclined to disagree with you. When representing a country in the Dail, suits should be mandatory or at the very least slacks, loafers, a shirt, a tie and a blazer. For instance, Mick Wallace is setting a very bad example given that his dress code not mention, hairstyle look like a novelty set. It really is taking the piss when a politician turns up to a professional (or supposed to be) conference looking like Harry from "Dumb & Dumber" gone wrong. It is also a bad reflection of the standards (or lack there of) in the country. Politicians should be professional in every sense including dress code.

Yakult · 12-07-2013 09:45PM

patrickbrophy18 wrote: »

I'd be inclined to disagree with you. When representing a country in the Dail, suits should be mandatory or at the very least slacks, loafers, a shirt, a tie and a blazer. For instance, Mick Wallace is setting a very bad example given that his dress code not mention, hairstyle look like a novelty set. It really is taking the piss when a politician turns up to a professional (or supposed to be) conference looking like Harry from "Dumb & Dumber" gone wrong. It is also a bad reflection of the standards (or lack there of) in the country. Politicians should be professional in every sense including dress code.

Dress code won't do anything for those bunch of clowns. Clown suits would be more appropriate.

WumBuster · 12-07-2013 09:48PM

what id like to know is why is there need to debate something i.e a bill or legislation through when the voting process is already rigged and predetermined. Every elected person should be allowed to vote on their own merit, not what their party tells them. Its the biggest clique going. democracy my ass.

Aidric · 12-07-2013 09:59PM

WumBuster wrote: »

what id like to know is why is there need to debate something i.e a bill or legislation through when the voting process is already rigged and predetermined. Every elected person should be allowed to vote on their own merit, not what their party tells them. Its the biggest clique going. democracy my ass.

It's called a whip system.

12-07-2013 10:17PM

So if a burglar raids a post office, or credit union, while wearing a suit, he's more professional and setting a better example, than the burglar wearing Canterbury sweatpants, and a pair of Donnay's?

Hotblack Desiato · 12-07-2013 11:20PM

patrickbrophy18 wrote: »

For instance, Mick Wallace is setting a very bad example given that his dress code not mention, hairstyle look like a novelty set. ... It is also a bad reflection of the standards (or lack there of) in the country.

Mick Wallace isn't a bad reflection on the country. Just on the people who voted for him

WumBuster · 12-07-2013 11:28PM

Aidric wrote: »

It's called a whip system.

oh rite, thanks

Do you want to see the Dail Grow Up

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