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Dopes in the Dáil.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 980 ✭✭✭Freddy Smelly


    we need a brutal dictator to rule us. none of this incompetant politicians


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,597 ✭✭✭dan1895


    Lapin wrote: »
    Those models on the Tour de France podiums are fúcking hot.



    Sorry - What are we meant to be discussing here?

    I got distracted.

    Apt user name.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,076 ✭✭✭✭Czarcasm


    My God in heaven, have we really got no bigger problems in this country than a few TDs having a laugh :confused:


    That IS the biggest problem right there -

    Incompetent politicians more concerned with acting the idiot while they should be concentrating on the issues this country faces.

    It's only one of the reasons I haven't voted in local and general elections since I first registered to vote nearly twenty years ago -

    There's never been a politician yet I could consider competent and capable enough to achieve their manifesto, let alone achieve what I feel are in the best interests of this country.

    These latest incidents are just an embarrassing proof of that fact.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,183 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    Czarcasm wrote: »
    That IS the biggest problem right there -

    Incompetent politicians more concerned with acting the idiot while they should be concentrating on the issues this country faces.

    It's only one of the reasons I haven't voted in local and general elections since I first registered to vote nearly twenty years ago -

    There's never been a politician yet I could consider competent and capable enough to achieve their manifesto, let alone achieve what I feel are in the best interests of this country.

    These latest incidents are just an embarrassing proof of that fact.

    Why don't you run for the Dáil yourself and save the world ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,076 ✭✭✭✭Czarcasm


    Lapin wrote: »
    Why don't you run for the Dáil yourself and save the world ?


    The reason I have no interest in getting into politics is because by it's very nature it's a bureaucratic system full of narcissist nest featherers who have little interest in anyone beyond themselves.

    I have to deal with bureaucracy and established procedures on a daily basis, and that's a head melt to deal with when I need to use a more flexible approach to problem solving.

    Overcoming that bureaucracy and established procedures can be mind numbingly slow at times, and even slower when people are only more interested in acting the gobshìte than they are in actually engaging and implementing solutions that will get results.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,073 ✭✭✭gobnaitolunacy


    RikkFlair wrote: »
    Lapgate?

    If the gates outside Dail Eireann fell on Enda Kenny would they call it gategate?

    Appending -gate on the end of every piffling micro-scandal is a bit jaded tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,479 ✭✭✭Hootanany


    Czarcasm wrote: »
    That IS the biggest problem right there -

    Incompetent politicians more concerned with acting the idiot while they should be concentrating on the issues this country faces.

    It's only one of the reasons I haven't voted in local and general elections since I first registered to vote nearly twenty years ago -

    There's never been a politician yet I could consider competent and capable enough to achieve their manifesto, let alone achieve what I feel are in the best interests of this country.

    These latest incidents are just an embarrassing proof of that fact.

    One should always cast your vote but use it wisely and vote out the Gombeens Political Dynasties and put in Independents break this cycle of Party Whips end fat pensions.
    So vote you must.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,987 ✭✭✭Legs.Eleven


    Canyon86 wrote: »
    Yet again OP we are the laughing stock of Europe,

    Eh....we're not the laughing stock of Europe?? :confused: People are too busy hating and cringing at the antics of their own politicians to care about the political shenanigans of a small island in the corner of Europe.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,076 ✭✭✭✭Czarcasm


    Hootanany wrote: »
    One should always cast your vote but use it wisely and vote out the Gombeens Political Dynasties and put in Independents break this cycle of Party Whips end fat pensions.
    So vote you must.


    They're not in my constituency (thank fcuk!), but when I think of independent TDs, I'm thinking of Mick Wallace, Luke Flanagan, Clare Daly, Michael Healy Rae...


    I would consider voting for any of them a waste of a vote. I understand what you mean Hootananny about one should always exercise one's right to vote, but I would only do so when presented with a panel of viable candidates.

    Otherwise, I have no interest in contributing to the international community viewing our nation as a shower of incompetent, hand wringing gobshìtes, based on our political representatives.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    Eh....we're not the laughing stock of Europe?? :confused: People are too busy hating and cringing at the antics of their own politicians to care about the political shenanigans of a small island in the corner of Europe.

    Your'e right.....we are the laughing stock of the world.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,427 ✭✭✭RustyNut


    Eh....we're not the laughing stock of Europe?? :confused: People are too busy hating and cringing at the antics of their own politicians to care about the political shenanigans of a small island in the corner of Europe.



    But most of their conversations end with "at least ours aren't bad as the paddys" followed by a little chuckle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,427 ✭✭✭RustyNut


    Czarcasm wrote: »
    They're not in my constituency (thank fcuk!), but when I think of independent TDs, I'm thinking of Mick Wallace, Luke Flanagan, Clare Daly, Michael Healy Rae...

    Ah come on now, would you not like to be driving home from the local after a few pints, while smoking a spliff and be on the phone while knowing you can ignore your tax bill.


    (they make it too easy)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,987 ✭✭✭Legs.Eleven


    RustyNut wrote: »
    But most of their conversations end with "at least ours aren't bad as the paddys" followed by a little chuckle.


    They all think Ireland is in Britain, so that'll throw them off the scent. ;)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,670 ✭✭✭renegademaster


    Czarcasm wrote: »
    Just when you thought Irish politicians couldn't make the Irish nation look worse on the world stage than this clown -


    Labour TD "mistakenly" votes against government on abortion


    because that wasn't bad enough, on the same night, Tom Barry TD had to go and try outdo his colleagues stupidity -


    TD Barry apologise for pulling Collins onto lap


    Now whatever might be said about the likes of idiots like Mick Wallace and Luke Flanagan, these latest incidents just show us that you can dress them up, but you still can't take them out.


    Is it time to swap the government cars for clown cars? Is this the sort of behaviour Irish people need representing their interests?

    the government were all on the drink when they changed what is now known to have been highly illegal promissory notes into more "legal" thingys!! we are the joke for letting this all carry on under our watch


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,780 ✭✭✭Frank Lee Midere


    Seriously the rest of Europe won't care. Lapgate won't matter outside the Irish Internet. The electors of Putin and Berlesconi, or fighting Greek parliamentarians have more to worry about.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    Seriously the rest of Europe won't care. Lapgate won't matter outside the Irish Internet. The electors of Putin and Berlesconi, or fighting Greek parliamentarians have more to worry about.

    Oh well that makes me feel much better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,554 ✭✭✭Pat Mustard


    Link
    the Communications Minister Pat Rabbitte said nobody was drunk in the Dáil chamber last night.

    Definitely not Tom-CollinsGate so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭Gyalist


    kylith wrote: »
    Please tell me we're not the only country that lets TDs booze when they're supposed to be making decisions that will affect laws and legislature. We'd be the laughing stock of Europe, if we weren't already.

    There are four bars in the House of Commons, and eight bars/restaurants in the Palace of Westminster.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,669 ✭✭✭Riddle101


    Nonsense. The two TDs are good friends from Cork and Aine Collins is no shrinking violet. Meaning if it was sexual harassment she would be the first to call it that.
    The only issue here is that it happened in the chamber, that is unprofessional.

    To me it would be like if two friends were joking around making racists jokes. The friends don't seem to mind because they're friends, but it doesn't mean it isn't racist. Here we have two colleagues, the man inappropriately grabs the woman and maks her sit on his lap. Any other circumstance and it would be deemed sexual harassment. It might not seem bad to the woman, but it's a poor representation of etiquette shown by the man, and the woman probably don't register the seriousness of it. But also the fact that the the Daíl just calls it "silly" is sad as well, because it seems they don't seem to register the seriousness of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,427 ✭✭✭RustyNut


    Link



    Definitely not Tom-CollinsGate so.
    Meanwhile, the Communications Minister Pat Rabbitte said dobody was nrunk in the Cáil dhamber last sight.


    FYP :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 211 ✭✭Johnny D. Mudd


    To steer this particular thread back on the original course in which it was intended....:D

    This type of behaviour may not be as shocking as other exploits that have taken place in political houses around the world but for the occasion that's in it, it still remains highly inappropriate.

    Considering that the occasion is amidst a highly delicate and temperamental debate and is being conducted within the walls of what is the center of irish politics, a certain amount of reverance and decorum is to be expected from those who are priviledged to be able to step into it. And considering that these are grown men and women who have spent many years within the political scene and have obviously become accustomed to the norms of conduct that is attached to it, it should be especially true.

    Now this may seem to be a minor incident to some and while I wouldn't neccesarily agree that it is an act borne of a sexist pig (it's possible that it really was an act of horseplay as was originally stated), it is still highly inappropriate considering the importance of the occasion and in many ways makes a mockery of what is a serious amendment discussion. This particular amendment has huge ramifications for the future of abortion legislations and for future mothers whose lives may be placed in jeopardy during birth or who may otherwise not find themselves suited to motherhood and so it is especially expected that there would be a certain respect for proceedings.

    This has been a huge lapse in judgement from someone who should know better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,554 ✭✭✭Pat Mustard


    Due to lack of heating, the temperature plummeted to a frosty 13 degrees in the Dáil chamber.

    Hypothermia is the cause of this Tomfoolery.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL




    Watch just above the word Bill.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,094 ✭✭✭wretcheddomain


    The sexual tension during the rigours of talking about women in the abortion debate must have been too great for him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,443 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    That was .... .... .... weird .... ? :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Don't see the fuss tbh.. they're good friends as well as colleagues. It's not as if he grabbed a random stranger.

    Unprofessional? yes. Grossly inappropriate? no


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,094 ✭✭✭wretcheddomain


    Don't see the fuss tbh.. they're good friends as well as colleagues. It's not as if he grabbed a random stranger.

    Unprofessional? yes. Grossly inappropriate? no

    You're just jealous.

    :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,443 ✭✭✭✭endacl




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,628 ✭✭✭Femme_Fatale


    The thing about us being the laughing stock re the guy with the woman on his lap though... Berlusconi.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,039 ✭✭✭MJ23


    Dirty git.


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