Dopes in the Dáil.

Czarcasm

Just when you thought Irish politicians couldn't make the Irish nation look worse on the world stage than this clown -


Labour TD "mistakenly" votes against government on abortion


because that wasn't bad enough, on the same night, Tom Barry TD had to go and try outdo his colleagues stupidity -


TD Barry apologise for pulling Collins onto lap


Now whatever might be said about the likes of idiots like Mick Wallace and Luke Flanagan, these latest incidents just show us that you can dress them up, but you still can't take them out.


Is it time to swap the government cars for clown cars? Is this the sort of behaviour Irish people need representing their interests?

Menas

After a 20 hour shift I am surprised we did not see worse.

uch

Ah sure leave them to it

Mardy Bum

McNamara seems to have had his mind changed and the incident described as a "mistake" rather than it actually being a mistake.

During the second stage debate on the Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill, Mr McNamara suggested it was hypocritical of the Government not to make the case for provision for fatal foetal abnormalities when it had argued in the European Court of Human Rights that in the case taken by Ms D on this issue, she had not exhausted all the remedies in the domestic courts and could have got relief from the Irish courts had she done so.
Mr McNamara said the State was now saying it could not legislate for this, when he said a legal argument to be made for it.

Frank Black

Czarcasm wrote: »

Is it time to swap the government cars for clown cars?

Yes

Czarcasm wrote: »

Is this the sort of behaviour Irish people need representing their interests?

No

Staff Infection

Cue the extreme opposite opinions of "Enda is sleep depriving the Td's so they'll vote the way he wants" or "féck them, they should work 24 hours plus with the money we pay them"

humanji

The best part was Rabbitte saying he "did not see anyone who showed any sign of drinking to excess."

So... they were still drinking on the job, then?

RikkFlair

Lapgate?

If the gates outside Dail Eireann fell on Enda Kenny would they call it gategate?

kylith

humanji wrote: »

The best part was Rabbitte saying he "did not see anyone who showed any sign of drinking to excess."

So... they were still drinking on the job, then?

Please tell me we're not the only country that lets TDs booze when they're supposed to be making decisions that will affect laws and legislature. We'd be the laughing stock of Europe, if we weren't already.

Riddle101

Tánaiste and party leader Eamon Gilmore was not in the Dáil for the vote as he is abroad on Government business.

:rolleyes:


As for the part about Tom Barry.As I said on Journal.ie today. If this happened in any other workplace, Barry would be done for sexual harassment. The fact that the Daíl just brushed it off as "silly" is appalling.

P_1

humanji wrote: »

The best part was Rabbitte saying he "did not see anyone who showed any sign of drinking to excess."

So... they were still drinking on the job, then?

They did seem a good bit more sober than they did during the last late debate/vote I guess.

I wonder of they were all sneaking off for powernaps during some of the speeches though :pac:

vitani

Those old Punch cartoons about the Irish Parliament weren't far off.

Staff Infection

P_1 wrote: »

They did seem a good bit more sober than they did during the last late debate/vote I guess.

I wonder of they were all sneaking off for powernaps during some of the speeches though :pac:

Well if some of the them were more concerned with stepping out and having a quick word with Vincent Browne instead of listening to the debates then it's highly likely others went for a snooze

Canyon86

Czarcasm wrote: »

Just when you thought Irish politicians couldn't make the Irish nation look worse on the world stage than this clown -


Labour TD "mistakenly" votes against government on abortion


because that wasn't bad enough, on the same night, Tom Barry TD had to go and try outdo his colleagues stupidity -


TD Barry apologise for pulling Collins onto lap


Now whatever might be said about the likes of idiots like Mick Wallace and Luke Flanagan, these latest incidents just show us that you can dress them up, but you still can't take them out.


Is it time to swap the government cars for clown cars? Is this the sort of behaviour Irish people need representing their interests?

Yet again OP we are the laughing stock of Europe,

RustyNut

Trigger Happy wrote: »

After a 20 hour shift I am surprised we did not see worse.

Tom Barry was trying for the shift anyway.

Wonder did he get it afterward.

Guill

Baboons. A room full of baboons.

Menas

Riddle101 wrote: »

:rolleyes:


As for the part about Tom Barry.As I said on Journal.ie today. If this happened in any other workplace, Barry would be done for sexual harassment. The fact that the Daíl just brushed it off as "silly" is appalling.

Nonsense. The two TDs are good friends from Cork and Aine Collins is no shrinking violet. Meaning if it was sexual harassment she would be the first to call it that.
The only issue here is that it happened in the chamber, that is unprofessional.

Amirani

Riddle101 wrote: »

:rolleyes:

I don't see why you'd roll your eyes at the Minister for Foreign Affairs being out of the country. Government departments don't shut down just because there's a controversial piece of legislation being passed through the Dáil.

RikkFlair

Guill wrote: »

Baboons. A room full of baboons.

I'd like to see this happen, on a trial basis.

SEPT 23 1989

We dont have parliamentarians in this country we have parish pump gombeens

fatmammycat

Trigger Happy wrote: »

Nonsense. The two TDs are good friends from Cork and Aine Collins is no shrinking violet. Meaning if it was sexual harassment she would be the first to call it that.
The only issue here is that it happened in the chamber, that is unprofessional.

Really? Do you think he'd pull one of his male friends/co workers onto his lap like that?

Menas

fatmammycat wrote: »

Really? Do you think he'd pull one of his male friends/co workers onto his lap like that?

As I said, it is unprofessional. I have no idea if he would do that to a male colleague -that is irrelevant.

Frank Lee Midere

Churchill was always 3 sheets to the wind when public speaking.

kylith

RikkFlair wrote: »

I'd like to see this happen, on a trial basis.

Couldn't be any worse. And at least we'd be able to pay the Dail the peanuts they deserve.

bumper234

Frank Lee Midere wrote: »

Churchill was always 3 sheets to the wind when public speaking.

Middle of a world war and the city he was living in was under constant aerial bombardment, Do you blame him?

humanji

Frank Lee Midere wrote: »

Churchill was always 3 sheets to the wind when public speaking.

But he had the advantage of not being incompetent.

SolarFlash

it was staged to diffuse abortion tension.

hatrickpatrick

My God in heaven, have we really got no bigger problems in this country than a few TDs having a laugh

DoesNotCompute

Czarcasm wrote: »

Just when you thought Irish politicians couldn't make the Irish nation look worse on the world stage than this clown -


Labour TD "mistakenly" votes against government on abortion


because that wasn't bad enough, on the same night, Tom Barry TD had to go and try outdo his colleagues stupidity -


TD Barry apologise for pulling Collins onto lap


Now whatever might be said about the likes of idiots like Mick Wallace and Luke Flanagan, these latest incidents just show us that you can dress them up, but you still can't take them out.


Is it time to swap the government cars for clown cars? Is this the sort of behaviour Irish people need representing their interests?

Meh, this is nothing. At least they don't go around bating the head off each other, or threatening their opponents with guns in the middle of televised debates, like these boys:

http://parliamentfights.wordpress.com/

vitani

DoesNotCompute wrote: »

Meh, this is nothing. At least they don't go around bating the head off each other, or threatening their opponents with guns in the middle of televised debates, like these boys:

http://parliamentfights.wordpress.com/

This is why women should rule the world...

:pac:

Lapin

Those models on the Tour de France podiums are fúcking hot.



Sorry - What are we meant to be discussing here?

I got distracted.

Freddy Smelly

we need a brutal dictator to rule us. none of this incompetant politicians

dan1895

Lapin wrote: »

Those models on the Tour de France podiums are fúcking hot.



Sorry - What are we meant to be discussing here?

I got distracted.

Apt user name.

Czarcasm

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

My God in heaven, have we really got no bigger problems in this country than a few TDs having a laugh

That IS the biggest problem right there -

Incompetent politicians more concerned with acting the idiot while they should be concentrating on the issues this country faces.

It's only one of the reasons I haven't voted in local and general elections since I first registered to vote nearly twenty years ago -

There's never been a politician yet I could consider competent and capable enough to achieve their manifesto, let alone achieve what I feel are in the best interests of this country.

These latest incidents are just an embarrassing proof of that fact.

Lapin

Czarcasm wrote: »

That IS the biggest problem right there -

Incompetent politicians more concerned with acting the idiot while they should be concentrating on the issues this country faces.

It's only one of the reasons I haven't voted in local and general elections since I first registered to vote nearly twenty years ago -

There's never been a politician yet I could consider competent and capable enough to achieve their manifesto, let alone achieve what I feel are in the best interests of this country.

These latest incidents are just an embarrassing proof of that fact.

Why don't you run for the Dáil yourself and save the world ?

Czarcasm

Lapin wrote: »

Why don't you run for the Dáil yourself and save the world ?

The reason I have no interest in getting into politics is because by it's very nature it's a bureaucratic system full of narcissist nest featherers who have little interest in anyone beyond themselves.

I have to deal with bureaucracy and established procedures on a daily basis, and that's a head melt to deal with when I need to use a more flexible approach to problem solving.

Overcoming that bureaucracy and established procedures can be mind numbingly slow at times, and even slower when people are only more interested in acting the gobshìte than they are in actually engaging and implementing solutions that will get results.

gobnaitolunacy

RikkFlair wrote: »

Lapgate?

If the gates outside Dail Eireann fell on Enda Kenny would they call it gategate?

Appending -gate on the end of every piffling micro-scandal is a bit jaded tbh.

Hootanany

Czarcasm wrote: »

That IS the biggest problem right there -

Incompetent politicians more concerned with acting the idiot while they should be concentrating on the issues this country faces.

It's only one of the reasons I haven't voted in local and general elections since I first registered to vote nearly twenty years ago -

There's never been a politician yet I could consider competent and capable enough to achieve their manifesto, let alone achieve what I feel are in the best interests of this country.

These latest incidents are just an embarrassing proof of that fact.

One should always cast your vote but use it wisely and vote out the Gombeens Political Dynasties and put in Independents break this cycle of Party Whips end fat pensions.
So vote you must.

Legs.Eleven

Canyon86 wrote: »

Yet again OP we are the laughing stock of Europe,

Eh....we're not the laughing stock of Europe?? People are too busy hating and cringing at the antics of their own politicians to care about the political shenanigans of a small island in the corner of Europe.

Czarcasm

Hootanany wrote: »

One should always cast your vote but use it wisely and vote out the Gombeens Political Dynasties and put in Independents break this cycle of Party Whips end fat pensions.
So vote you must.

They're not in my constituency (thank fcuk!), but when I think of independent TDs, I'm thinking of Mick Wallace, Luke Flanagan, Clare Daly, Michael Healy Rae...


I would consider voting for any of them a waste of a vote. I understand what you mean Hootananny about one should always exercise one's right to vote, but I would only do so when presented with a panel of viable candidates.

Otherwise, I have no interest in contributing to the international community viewing our nation as a shower of incompetent, hand wringing gobshìtes, based on our political representatives.

bumper234

Legs.Eleven wrote: »

Eh....we're not the laughing stock of Europe?? People are too busy hating and cringing at the antics of their own politicians to care about the political shenanigans of a small island in the corner of Europe.

Your'e right.....we are the laughing stock of the world.

RustyNut

Legs.Eleven wrote: »

Eh....we're not the laughing stock of Europe?? People are too busy hating and cringing at the antics of their own politicians to care about the political shenanigans of a small island in the corner of Europe.

But most of their conversations end with "at least ours aren't bad as the paddys" followed by a little chuckle.

RustyNut

Czarcasm wrote: »

They're not in my constituency (thank fcuk!), but when I think of independent TDs, I'm thinking of Mick Wallace, Luke Flanagan, Clare Daly, Michael Healy Rae...

Ah come on now, would you not like to be driving home from the local after a few pints, while smoking a spliff and be on the phone while knowing you can ignore your tax bill.


(they make it too easy)

Legs.Eleven

RustyNut wrote: »

But most of their conversations end with "at least ours aren't bad as the paddys" followed by a little chuckle.

They all think Ireland is in Britain, so that'll throw them off the scent.

renegademaster

Czarcasm wrote: »

Just when you thought Irish politicians couldn't make the Irish nation look worse on the world stage than this clown -


Labour TD "mistakenly" votes against government on abortion


because that wasn't bad enough, on the same night, Tom Barry TD had to go and try outdo his colleagues stupidity -


TD Barry apologise for pulling Collins onto lap


Now whatever might be said about the likes of idiots like Mick Wallace and Luke Flanagan, these latest incidents just show us that you can dress them up, but you still can't take them out.


Is it time to swap the government cars for clown cars? Is this the sort of behaviour Irish people need representing their interests?

the government were all on the drink when they changed what is now known to have been highly illegal promissory notes into more "legal" thingys!! we are the joke for letting this all carry on under our watch

Frank Lee Midere

Seriously the rest of Europe won't care. Lapgate won't matter outside the Irish Internet. The electors of Putin and Berlesconi, or fighting Greek parliamentarians have more to worry about.

bumper234

Frank Lee Midere wrote: »

Seriously the rest of Europe won't care. Lapgate won't matter outside the Irish Internet. The electors of Putin and Berlesconi, or fighting Greek parliamentarians have more to worry about.

Oh well that makes me feel much better.

Pat Mustard

Link

the Communications Minister Pat Rabbitte said nobody was drunk in the Dáil chamber last night.

Definitely not Tom-CollinsGate so.

Gyalist

kylith wrote: »

Please tell me we're not the only country that lets TDs booze when they're supposed to be making decisions that will affect laws and legislature. We'd be the laughing stock of Europe, if we weren't already.

There are four bars in the House of Commons, and eight bars/restaurants in the Palace of Westminster.

Riddle101

Trigger Happy wrote: »

Nonsense. The two TDs are good friends from Cork and Aine Collins is no shrinking violet. Meaning if it was sexual harassment she would be the first to call it that.
The only issue here is that it happened in the chamber, that is unprofessional.

To me it would be like if two friends were joking around making racists jokes. The friends don't seem to mind because they're friends, but it doesn't mean it isn't racist. Here we have two colleagues, the man inappropriately grabs the woman and maks her sit on his lap. Any other circumstance and it would be deemed sexual harassment. It might not seem bad to the woman, but it's a poor representation of etiquette shown by the man, and the woman probably don't register the seriousness of it. But also the fact that the the Daíl just calls it "silly" is sad as well, because it seems they don't seem to register the seriousness of it.

RustyNut

The Mustard wrote: »

Link



Definitely not Tom-CollinsGate so.

Meanwhile, the Communications Minister Pat Rabbitte said dobody was nrunk in the Cáil dhamber last sight.

FYP