Anti social behavior, what annoys me about this country

shedweller wrote: »

I think they are a different breed altogether. I mean, you'd have to resort to braveheart or gladiator levels of violence to stop them. I went to school with some of them so i am speaking from experience. They literally will not stop what they do. It's at a cellular level.
So, what we do is poison their food. The cheap stuff that they all eat. Then we can all get on with our lives.

I'm not joking btw. No seriously, make sure i dont get into power cos thats what i'll do when i do!

Damn straight, another good thing would be to "taint" the water ...

balfe1990 wrote: »

And you can't just have them kicked out and stuck in a hole somewhere in the arse end of Connemara, which would be ideal, but not exactly possible.

Sort out your own problems instead of dumping them on others, thanks.

meoklmrk91 wrote: »

There is a family of scumbags living in my estate, they are literally the biggest wasters you have ever met. They terrorise people on a daily basis, engage in all kinds of anti social behaviour, in the last few days I have been verbally abused and was threatened that I was going to be killed, my crime? I honestly have no idea. They have literally stated that they own the place and they can do whatever they like to who they like, the guards do nothing, it's almost like they are afraid or them as well.

They are recieving rent allowance, I know this for a fact, that means that the "taxpayer" are paying for them to live here making everyone else's life hell, I have not had it nearly as bad as others. People like this deserve nothing, I think everyone has a story about anti social behavior but this is gone beyond the joke, the PRTB is a long and tedious road and I am honestly a bit afraid to make a compliant because they will get me if they find out its me, which they will. Has anyone else had to deal with anything like this? Any kind of resolution.

There's only one solution to your problem, move. Start the process today and leave the problem after you.

The Gardai will not help you, TD's and councillors will not help you. You will aggravate the problem by reporting them.

Get out of that place and forget about it.

balfe1990 wrote: »

Not sure why you targeted my post..

I wouldn't expect you to :rolleyes:

tmc86 wrote: »

That's not sorting out the problem, that's just running away from it.

Nobody should be forced to move from their home and to incur the financial cost and mental stress involved.

As people have said OP, keep on at the local Councillors and TDs. These scumbags are just bullies so stand up for yourself like you have been doing and they'll hopefully be less inclined to pick at you or try and ignore them and they may eventually leave you alone once they see they don't get a rise from you.

There needs to be some kind of penalty system introduced for those people claiming or receiving benefits and who are involved in anti-social behaviour.

e.g. if complaints are made against someone and they still continue with their behaviour having being spoken to by a guard then their benefits should be temporarily reduced until they can behave like a decent human being. Act like kids get treated like kids.

Absolutely true that no one should be forced to move.

Reality though is entirely a different matter.

I get the feeling you don't quite understand the Irish scumbags mentality.

They're unafraid of the Gardai, who are usually unwilling/unable to do anything anyway. They hold grudges and aren't beyond committing criminal damage or intense mental harassment. We're not talking setting fire to your house, but small things like damaging your car, throwing a brick through the window, damaging other property, stealing bins, intimidation, name calling, spreading rumours, etc. Getting arrested, if it came to it, which it won't, is a badge of honour for many.

If you know any, go ask a few solicitors and barristers about these situations, see what they tell you. While you're at it ask them about their opinion on the Gardai in such situations.

"Running away", as you put it, is the fastest and best solution there is to this problem. If you find yourself in it, you'll understand the mental toll it takes. Your faith in your neighbours, faith in national institutions, and faith in right & wrong will suffer, because the truth in Ireland is, no one wants to get involved in someone elses problem.

So my advice still stands, move, ASAP, devote all your resources and energies to that goal until you reach it.

Only one way to sort this out and that is to hit the landlord in the pocket. Guards won't do anything. Don't try and appeal to the better nature of the scum as they more then likely do not have one.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/landlord-fined-30k-for-tenants-actions-217217.html

Landmark case in link showing residents suing landlord and winning. Find out who owns the house and get the ball moving by ensuring that the landlord is paying his due tax. Then complain about damage and harassment to landlord. Find about 5 or 6 households who will make the complaint and get them all to stick with it. Hit the landlord where it hurts and they will deal with the scummers or pay the consequences.

If the scummers actions are illegal then you need to get a residents committee and then make the complaints to the Guards on behalf of the committee. Contact your community Guard and meet with them separately. don't Bother with the muppets who respond to the calls as they won't give a crap.

Most important of all do not give up. If we don't make demands on the state institutions that that there to defend and protect us and they are that inept then where does that leave us? Yes you're renting, all the more reason not to let them away with it. If the scummers ramp up their actions then they will only be providing ammunition and evidence that the landlord will have to pay for.

Short term pain = long term gain. At least its one family. Some estates are full of scum and there is no chance of dealing with it when its 12 or 14 year olds from loads of different families.

Don't go toe to toe with them unless you have to defend yourselves. Use your biggest advantage, your brain. Log everything, report everything and get as much evidence as you can and go after the landlord. You will be wasting your time with the scummers themselves as they have nothing to lose.