Youth Defence Wesbite

Brazil_7 · 09-07-2013 08:53AM #1

It's gone down.
www.youthdefence.ie/‎
Looks like it's been taken down and replaced by text concerning its funding and other stuff.
Wonder what that's all about?

DrumSteve · 09-07-2013 08:54AM

They must have made the choice to take it down.

Sir Humphrey Appleby · 09-07-2013 08:58AM

DrumSteve wrote: »

They must have made the choice to take it down.

They would never do that, they are very anti-choice not pro choice

biko · 09-07-2013 08:58AM

One post and closed his account.
Wonder what that's all about?

Probably a hacker gloating.

homerjay2005 · 09-07-2013 08:59AM

been hacked looks like.

Hardonraging · 09-07-2013 09:01AM

The Illuminati no doubt .... or some nice Hactivists

biko · 09-07-2013 09:04AM

Maybe he was hacking wearing one of those Guy Fawkes masks that are mass-produced in China? They are terribly popular with the anti-capitalists these days.

GalwayKiefer · 09-07-2013 09:06AM

Has anyone here ever heard of the far-right Irish group the INB? Or is it just me that hasn't?

biko · 09-07-2013 09:07AM

Do you mean the IBTL?

R P McMurphy · 09-07-2013 09:10AM

GalwayKiefer wrote: »

Has anyone here ever heard of the far-right Irish group the INB? Or is it just me that hasn't?

The irish nursing board. A dangerous group

Bacchus · 09-07-2013 09:11AM

Thanks for the info but.... 1 post from a closed account? Is the info on the hacked site true or just serving some other groups agenda?

Personally I hate those posters and their attempts to manipulate and twist the abortion debate with sensationalist posters. I've no idea who's behind them and was actually just thinking this morning walking past a load of their posters this morning... Youth Defence? Who the feck are they?

20Cent · 09-07-2013 09:11AM

I'm no computer expert but I'd say it's been hacked.

biko · 09-07-2013 09:12AM

I didn't even read it. Once I saw some eejit had hacked it I lost interest.

09-07-2013 09:12AM

I approve of this!

Well done to whoever did this. Just a shame we can't wipe out that organisation of fascist, homophobic, misogynistic thugs entirely.

Artful_Badger · 09-07-2013 09:13AM

Could be another casualty of the hot weather. The website might have sunstroke.

09-07-2013 09:29AM

All well and all good. Until they published the email addresses of people who subscribe to Youth defense's newsletter.
They are as bad as one another.

biko · 09-07-2013 09:31AM

Deleted User wrote: »

I approve of this! Well done to whoever did this. Just a shame we can't wipe out that organisation of fascist, homophobic, misogynistic thugs entirely.

I don't approve at all.
By hacking websites the hackers just shows how far they are willing to go to silence dissidence.
Normal free-thinking people won't get sucked in anyway so all they achieve is a backlash.

The hackers just show how undemocratic they really are, and furthermore how little they think of their own ranks that they must go to extremes to win some point.

At least they got a discussion going on Youth Defence, so hey it worked. Maybe not as they had intended by any exposure is good eh?

Esoteric_ · 09-07-2013 09:37AM

I'm completely annoyed by this.

I'm pro-choice, and I abhor everything the YD group stand for. However, whoever hacked the site, be they pro-choice or not, has just demonstrated that each side is as bad as the other. All this has done is lower my respect for the pro-choice groups out there.

tritium · 09-07-2013 09:37AM

To paraphrase someone else, I disagree with their opinion but would defend to the death their right to hold it.

Some hacker takes down their website, all that shows is the contempt with which the hacker holds free speech. Basically the folks who did this are grade A twats who should hang their heads in shame.

Sacksian · 09-07-2013 09:39AM

biko wrote: »

Normal free-thinking people won't get sucked in anyway so all they achieve is a backlash.

.... furthermore how little they think of their own ranks that they must go to extremes to win some point.

At least they got a discussion going on Youth Defence, so hey it worked. Maybe not as they had intended by any exposure is good eh?

I'm pretty sure that people who are pro-choice are not going to suddenly decide to oppose abortion because Youth Defence had their website hacked.

Also, bringing up extremism in a debate about abortion is not going to be in the favour of anti-abortionists, considering the routes their supporters have taken to promote their cause.

If we drew up a list of the tactics used by both sides, hacking a website would be one of the tamer ones. And the most extreme or unpalatable would be those of the anti-abortionists.

09-07-2013 09:39AM

biko wrote: »

I don't approve at all.
By hacking websites the hackers just shows how far they are willing to go to silence dissidence.

There's a difference between dissidence and downright lying. Youth Defence are entirely about the latter. If YD was a pro-life organisation that did not resort to dishonest shock tactics or intimidation to get their misguided points across, I'd still disagree with their views but would respect their rights to their opinions.

YD, however, are not a peaceful and honest pro-life movement. They are, quite simply, scum. There's no other way of putting it. Their website has more truth on it right now then it ever has before.

At least they got a discussion going on Youth Defence, so hey it worked. Maybe not as they had intended by any exposure is good eh?

Meh, I don't believe that old "any exposure...." line. Anyway Youth Defence are well capable of getting discussions going by themselves.

mike65 · 09-07-2013 09:42AM

YD don't deserve the respect some here seem to be advocating. Bunch of Catholic fascists.

Penn · 09-07-2013 09:42AM

I wouldn't go so far as to say I'm annoyed or even that I disagree with it, I just see it as being pointless. Those who really oppose YD already know most of that stuff anyway. Those who really support YD don't really care about it. And everyone in the middle would be extremely unlikely to be visiting YD's website anyway.

Focus should be spent on bringing stuff like their funding and advertising to the relevant authorities and push for action in those regards. Hacking their website, as much as I'd love to see the panic in 60a Capel St right about now, is pointless and little more than showboating.

Esoteric_ · 09-07-2013 09:44AM

mike65 wrote: »

YD don't deserve the respect some here seem to be advocating. Bunch of Catholic fascists.

No posts on this thread have advocated respect being shown to YD.

Some of us don't like the tactics used by whoever hacked the YD website. That's more about the person stooping to the level of YD than showing respect for YD. I have no respect for YD and never will. Doesn't mean that I think hacking their website is a good idea.

SEPT 23 1989 · 09-07-2013 09:45AM

well done to all involved

anyone who puts up posters where children can see them and parks a billboard van outside the Dublin Rape Crisis Centre deserves everything thats coming to them

Sacksian · 09-07-2013 09:46AM

Esoteric_ wrote: »

I'm completely annoyed by this.

I'm pro-choice, and I abhor everything the YD group stand for. However, whoever hacked the site, be they pro-choice or not, has just demonstrated that each side is as bad as the other. All this has done is lower my respect for the pro-choice groups out there.

Why does this lower your respect for the pro-choice groups out there, if you acknowledge above that you don't know who hacked the website??

Also, I'm not sure hacking a website is morally equivalent to giving graphic anti-abortion literature to schoolchildren, as some groups have done.

Esoteric_ · 09-07-2013 09:47AM

Sacksian wrote: »

Why does this lower your respect for the pro-choice groups out there, if you acknowledge above that you don't know who hacked the website??

Also, I'm not sure hacking a website is morally equivalent to giving graphic anti-abortion literature to schoolchildren, as some groups have done.

I'm going on the assumption that somebody who is pro-choice hacked the site. Obviously, I don't know this for sure, but I don't think a pro-lifer would be doing that kind of thing.

I never said it's morally equivalent, but I still think it's wrong.

fishy fishy · 09-07-2013 09:47AM

Esoteric_ wrote: »

I'm completely annoyed by this.

I'm pro-choice, and I abhor everything the YD group stand for. However, whoever hacked the site, be they pro-choice or not, has just demonstrated that each side is as bad as the other. All this has done is lower my respect for the pro-choice groups out there.

lol - did you read your post there. Basically what you are saying that whoever in the world hacked the yd group website, you are going to blame pro-choice groups anyway.

:D

fishy fishy · 09-07-2013 09:49AM

Esoteric_ wrote: »

I'm going on the assumption that somebody who is pro-choice hacked the site. Obviously, I don't know this for sure, but I don't think a pro-lifer would be doing that kind of thing.

I never said it's morally equivalent, but I still think it's wrong.

ah ya, the old "assume" nugget.

Esoteric_ · 09-07-2013 09:49AM

fishy fishy wrote: »

lol - did you read your post there. Basically what you are saying that whoever in the world hacked the yd group website, you are going to blame pro-choice groups anyway.

:D

As I said above, I obviously don't know for sure who did it, but I highly doubt a pro-life person would have done it. :rolleyes:

OpenYourEyes · 09-07-2013 09:52AM

Deleted User wrote: »

There's a difference between dissidence and downright lying. Youth Defence are entirely about the latter. If YD was a pro-life organisation that did not resort to dishonest shock tactics or intimidation to get their misguided points across, I'd still disagree with their views but would respect their rights to their opinions.

YD, however, are not a peaceful and honest pro-life movement. They are, quite simply, scum. There's no other way of putting it. Their website has more truth on it right now then it ever has before.

Very well said!

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