Brawl at Gay Pride Fest in Seattle , God Squad at it Again

1ZRed wrote: »

This is completely wrong. Homophobia is not deep rooted in our genetics at all. In fact, there were huge benefits to having homosexual as part of the group as there were more people to protect the group, gather resources and raise children had one or both of the parents been killed off (which would've been common) couple that with the fact that the gay memebers wouldn't be bogged down with their own children so they could devote themselves to the group, thus making it stronger.

The idea that homosexuality is wrong is a testament to the massive influence Christianity and other organised religions had on society. Before Christianity in what you might consider "barbaric Ireland", there were many legal structures in place and even there were accounts of same-sex marriage. It wasn't an issue at all back then at all. Neither was it in Ancient Rome, Greece, or in Aztec or Incan society either. They were advanced civilisations at the time and saw nothing inherently wrong with homosexuality.

When organised religions like Christianity came to rise they viewed homosexuality as immoral because that meant they wouldn't be getting new recruits from those people, so for the sake of rapid expansion that all had to stop.

At the root of it, Christianity wanted nothing more but extreme power, influence and the money that came with it. It didn't matter if that ended up in war, genocide or massive oppression, that's all they wanted -supreme power.

There's nothing wrong with sex, it's not a dirty, immoral or sinful thing, and we don't listen to the church on those matters, so why should we listen to them when they say contraception is immoral as well as homosexuality? Thankfully we're listening to the church less and less and it's loosing it's oppressive grip, as it should. More damage and war has come about from religion than anything else on Earth. The deep rooted prejudices to things as natural and enjoyable as sex are only the biggest testament to that oppression.

My point is that all this aggression toward homosexuality is the direct result of a harsh religious influence because there was no hostility towards homosexuality before the dawn of organised religion. It's not rooted in our DNA at all, that's a ridiculous assumption to make. We are the product of our society's values, and those values were deeply shaped by religion.
Once we move away from that we will start to see homosexuality for what it it, just a differing sexuality. We won't see anything being wrong with it because no religion will be telling us there is, because logically, there's is absolutely nothing wrong with it.

Bacteria only reproduces asexually. Your point is moot.


You're not doing a good job because you assume homophobia is genetic and can't be helped, no more than homosexuality. That's a cop out, it's learned from your surroundings.

I grew up thinking homosexuality was sick, and what do you know? I grew up believing that as well. It's complete laziness to assume homophobia is what it is and that's it.
If anything needs to be stamped out it's homophobia, not homsexuality.