Brawl at Gay Pride Fest in Seattle , God Squad at it Again

apparently we all need to be saved from

1. Homosexuality
2. Materialism
3. Pornography
4. Drugs
5. Rock Music
6. Drunkeness
7. Tv Worship

Fox_In_Socks

The giant over sized baby with the tat...

Ruudi_Mentari

More woman defending gay rights than anything. I just sits, better with them

minidazzler

I am completely and utterly for gay rights and all such things. But the people at pride caused the fight. They don't need to fight to prove they are better, just be.

Ruudi_Mentari

Will it ever be acceptable for a guy to be gay in society?

I doubt it. yet, for girls it's the ultimate edgy fashion accessory and an opportunity for them to flex their muscle where the guy has none, the big floppy baby.

The Aussie

So the God Squad went there looking for a fight and found what they wanted.....

A religion of peace and understanding, one thing I realized years ago that Christian Extremists are just as looney as their Muslim brothers.

Ruudi_Mentari

They shouldn't have gone near it. Just preaching rubbish, looking for confrontation

becost

There's always going to be trouble when two groups, equally eccentric and from opposite ends of the spectrum cross paths...

Chorcai

The Aussie wrote: »

So the God Squad went there looking for a fight and found what they wanted.....

A religion of peace and understanding, one thing I realized years ago that Christian Extremists are just as looney as their Muslim brothers.

Not really fair to say they went looking for fight, more to protest or "save" people as they would see it. They had every right to be there also.

discus

Ruudi_Mentari wrote: »

They shouldn't have gone near it. Just preaching rubbish, looking for confrontation

Free speech. Surely both viewpoints can be preached publicly, without either side assaulting anyone.

minidazzler

becost wrote: »

There's always going to be trouble when two groups from opposite ends of the spectrum cross paths...

Not if they can act like adults and have an argument without thinking that beating the other guy up proves your point.

Artful_Badger

I'm all for gay rights and all but not scumbags attacking people.

MadsL

The Aussie wrote: »

So the God Squad went there looking for a fight and found what they wanted.....

A religion of peace and understanding, one thing I realized years ago that Christian Extremists are just as looney as their Muslim brothers.

Looked just like a thread on AH to me...obnoxious guy baiting another and the guy finally snaps and gets arrested/red carded.

becost

minidazzler wrote: »

Not if they can act like adults and have an argument without thinking that beating the other guy up proves your point.

It's never gonna happen. Religious fanatics cannot be reasoned with, ever. They believe they have God on their side. Game over.

minidazzler

becost wrote: »

It's never gonna happen. Religious fanatics cannot be reasoned with, ever. They believe they have God on their side. Game over.

In this exact incident it was the people attending pride who were being the dicks. From what I saw the religious cnuts were just waving signs, which they are allowed to do without any consequence.

The Aussie

Chorcai wrote: »

Not really fair to say they went looking for fight, more to protest or "save" people as they would see it. They had every right to be there also.

They went there looking for comfrontation, they got it in spades, they knew that they were not going to "save" anyone there, they just wanted a fight (albeit verbal not physical).

becost

minidazzler wrote: »

In this exact incident it was the people attending pride who were being the dicks. From what I saw the religious cnuts were just waving signs, which they are allowed to do without any consequence.

I'm talking in general terms. Religious nuts that protest at events like this know damn well that it's got real potential to develop into something more serious though.

Chorcai

The Aussie wrote: »

They went there looking for comfrontation, they got it in spades, they knew that they were not going to "save" anyone there, they just wanted a fight (albeit verbal not physical).

It is hard to make any call as the video didn't show how they protesting. Either way they shouldn't have treated like that.

Wacker The Attacker

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3wFHEm33Aw

sunflower27

It's that guy from Little Britain...

The Aussie

Chorcai wrote: »

Either way they shouldn't have treated like that.

In fairness, you never know how some tubby redneck is going to react, well yes you do actually, it was always going to end in a brain fart.

EyeSight

the god guys knew they were provoking people and should expect it.

That said, i never agree with men attacking others from behind when they have a group to support them

Wattle

Gays 1-0 The Lord

getzls

The Aussie wrote: »

So the God Squad went there looking for a fight and found what they wanted.....

A religion of peace and understanding, one thing I realized years ago that Christian Extremists are just as looney as their Muslim brothers.

But far less violent.

Nodin

tajd wrote: »

apparently we all need to be saved from

1. Homosexuality
2. Materialism
3. Pornography
4. Drugs
5. Rock Music
6. Drunkeness
7. Tv Worship

......some of those folk are as pale as Irish people....

Ruudi_Mentari

I feel bad for the guy, getting flustered like that it is their day so let them be.

These gay pride marches are a part of life, now so the fanatics needn't troll it and only make themselves look worse in the process. But you can bet in that climate the girls will be taking a stronger, more unabashed and unified stance!

Zen65

Stay classy, Seattle!

Z

MadsL

getzls wrote: »

But far less violent.

Not if you are an abortion doctor.

getzls

MadsL wrote: »

Not if you are an abortion doctor.

Irrelevant.

Nodin

getzls wrote: »

Irrelevant.

...not to the Abortion doctor, or nurse who may be 'in the way'.

Killer Wench

OMG! Did you all see how the US police force ran in, tased everyone, shot a couple of dogs, high-fived each other, and then pissed on the camera people?!

dmc17

These jesus freaks are sad, brainwashed idiots. It's always going to end badly for them. If the gay people want to have a festival, then let them. Don't wander into the middle of it forcing your beliefs on them and expect nothing to happen. I think your man got off lightly. He should've had that sign shoved up his hole!

Killer Wench

Killer Wench wrote: »

OMG! Did you all see how the US police force ran in, tased everyone, shot a couple of dogs, high-fived each other, and then pissed on the camera people?!

They were on push bikes, they know their role.

keano_afc

The Aussie wrote: »

So the God Squad went there looking for a fight and found what they wanted.....

A religion of peace and understanding, one thing I realized years ago that Christian Extremists are just as looney as their Muslim brothers.

Free speech no? As far as I could see only one side there wanted a fight, and it wasnt the Christians.

minidazzler

dmc17 wrote: »

These jesus freaks are sad, brainwashed idiots. It's always going to end badly for them. If the gay people want to have a festival, then let them. Don't wander into the middle of it forcing your beliefs on them and expect nothing to happen. I think your man got off lightly. He should've had that sign shoved up his hole!

No, he shouldn't. It's the US, where you can have signs like that. And that's nothing but a good thing. Even if they do have a message of intolerance it's better that it's allowed be conveyed than if the government could sanction what you are allowed to say.

Killer Wench

Anyway, I'm in the Seattle area. I had friends at the event and I just asked around regarding this 'brawl'. The big guy doing the swinging has been arrested 29 times since 1995 (domestic violence, vehicle prowling, firearm possession and theft).

Canard

I see a very clear difference between free speech and incitement of hatred. No sympathy at all for the preachers, they can give it a fcuking rest for the one day of the year where gay people are supposed to not feel ashamed or oppressed. I can't imagine they'd walk into a pub with those signs, despite both homosexuality and drunkenness being things we need to be saved from (:rolleyes:), so they don't mean well, they're just being plain old homophobes.

aloyisious

If you go to protest at a gathering where you're likely to be unwelcome and you know in advance that your presence will cause offence, then you are part responsible for any disturbance your presence causes, regardless of your right to free speech and all it allows.

The rest of the upset and all the violence seemed to come from three people attending the Pride party, two men and a woman, said woman being a friend of the arrested gent who was telling her to shut up. One thing that surprised me was that she was able to follow, chase and harass the placard-bearer and his pal with the JESUS shirt without a care in the world but when the Cops shop up and take an interest in her, she's suddenly apparently a mother with a child in a buggy.

0066ad

Canard wrote: »

I see a very clear difference between free speech and incitement of hatred. No sympathy at all for the preachers, they can give it a fcuking rest for the one day of the year where gay people are supposed to not feel ashamed or oppressed. I can't imagine they'd walk into a pub with those signs, despite both homosexuality and drunkenness being things we need to be saved from (:rolleyes:), so they don't mean well, they're just being plain old homophobes.

Lets reverse this roll for a second, If the westboro babtist holds a parade
against the rights of the gay marriage and two members from the lbgt were to
turn up and protest against that peacefully, the westboro church has
a right to attack them an incitement of hate against them?

B.A._Baracus

Got to laugh :pac:

Not about the the topic of anti-gay religious people vs homosexual people. But the dude who grabs the sign (shades and cap guy) wrestles with the bald guy. No punches are thrown. Yet when people break it up, shades & cap guy gets up whilst being seperated, and says "hit me again mother fu**er!" while hiding behind the women :pac:

0066ad

If a pro choice parade was insulted with the sign of a pro life have they the right to
use violence against them? and vice versa can a pro life use violence against a pro choice just because he was holding a sign they didn't agree with?

TeddyTedson

Chorcai wrote: »

Not really fair to say they went looking for fight, more to protest or "save" people as they would see it. They had every right to be there also.

Should they really be allowed to protest against gay people at a gay pride though. I mean being gay is completely legal in Seattle. Should these people have been removed first of all for inciting trouble?

Anyways, there's a lot of whack jobs out there. I'm surprised people were so wound up by them though, it's just so ridiculous that people like that still exist in a so called 1st world country.

c_man

0066ad wrote: »

Lets reverse this roll for a second, If the westboro babtist holds a parade
against the rights of the gay marriage and two members from the lbgt were to
turn up and protest against that peacefully, the westboro church has
a right to attack them an incitement of hate against them?

Yes. What's more in such an incident they "should know better" and not have any right to complain if violence occurs, as it was as inevitable as the Sun rising. Right thread?

greenflash

Shouldn't the two god botherers have just turned the other cheek instead of grassing up the fat bloke to the cops? Hypocrites.

Jimoslimos

Drunk aggressive people are drunk aggressive people regardless of sexuality.

I have little time for the the God squad but they weren't the ones who turned violent in this instance.

Killer Wench

TeddyTedson wrote: »

Should they really be allowed to protest against gay people at a gay pride though. I mean being gay is completely legal in Seattle. Should these people have been removed first of all for inciting trouble?

Anyways, there's a lot of whack jobs out there. I'm surprised people were so wound up by them though, it's just so ridiculous that people like that still exist in a so called 1st world country.

The purpose of protecting the freedom of speech, isn't to protect the speech that you agree with, it is to protect the speech that you don't agree with. The individuals who went to the Pride event with their homophobic signs knew that they were spreading an unpopular message, but they have the same right to protest on public land as the other individuals had a right to celebrate and participate in the activities.

TeddyTedson

Killer Wench wrote: »

The purpose of protecting the freedom of speech, isn't to protect the speech that you agree with, it is to protect the speech that you don't agree with. The individuals who went to the Pride event with their homophobic signs knew that they were spreading an unpopular message, but they have the same right to protest on public land as the other individuals had a right to celebrate and participate in the activities.

Yeah but surely they can do this somewhere else or at another time.
I think it's just trying to incite violence. I don't think they really should have been allowed to protest at a gay pride event.

Duggy747

Seattle has gone mental since Frasier left.

Killer Wench

TeddyTedson wrote: »

Yeah but surely they can do this somewhere else or at another time.
I think it's just trying to incite violence. I don't think they really should have been allowed to protest at a gay pride event.

Doing it somewhere else at another time doesn't hit the audience that they wish to target. They are free to protest anywhere as long as it is peacefully done. Civil people know not to use their fists and anger to make their counterpoint against such speech.

As mentioned earlier in the thread, the big guy who began punching the protester had an extensive arrest record. He was a ticking time-bomb and was probably the type of person to lash out even the protester had been protesting somewhere else on another day.

1ZRed

Seriously these psycho religious picketers need to learn to fuck off where they're not wanted and to stay in their churches. What did they expect, that they'd be welcomed with open arms?

Don't stir shit. If I was around one of them and he was telling me that Jesus was going to save me I'd tell him to shove that sign up his hole.

It'd be like a pack of religious racists picketing against interratial marriage on Martin Luther King Day -as crazy as it sounds, it's happened. I doubt that'd go down without so much as a problem in modern times either.

They made it their business of being there and causing a stir. It's only one day of the year pride happens and yet they still went protesting against it. If they didn't want any trouble then they shouldn't have gone looking for it because that shite won't be tolerated and it never should either.

jill_valentine

I don't support violence when it comes to these chumps, largely because as far as they're concerned, it just makes them right.

But frankly, with IRL "Not touching! Can't Get Mad!" trolls like these idiots, I'm just amazed this doesn't happen much more often. This is the first such incident I can think of. Compared to...

It's so very, very hard to muster up sympathy for individuals of that calibre considering how much douchery they can get away with, and for how long; often with the passive validation of "defence of marriage" legislation or religious and political leaders talking about how, gosh, they don't hate or fear gay people, they just don't think they're equal, or fit parents, or safe to be around children, or...

So yes. It's bad that somebody got hurt, no matter how thick they are. But I've heard more about this story than I've heard about most of the names on that list above, precisely because this, this is unusual.