Spanish students on public transport...

dd972 · 06-07-2013 01:07PM

I'd rather have them walking towards me blocking my path than the type of young blokes who killed that young Pole in Coolock in the early hours a year or two back.

Another factor with young Spanish or Italian exchange trippers is that the Milan's and Madrid's down in Southern Europe have great big plaza's for posing,people watching and coffee drinking that are more suited for those activities than Westmoreland Street.

PizzamanIRL · 06-07-2013 01:34PM

Ah would you give them a break instead of moaning every year they come over here and spend their money on our stuff.

spankysue · 06-07-2013 02:06PM

I really don't see what the problem is, they're loud? What teenagers aren't loud?

They block things? What about the people that block doorways and entrances the rest of the year? The rare occasion I use public transport, there's always at least two huge prams on it, aimed out towards the middle of the aisle so I have to use my mad ninja skills to get past them.

Give them a break ffs, they're just kids and they're not here all year round anyway.

wretcheddomain · 06-07-2013 02:07PM

I agree with one of the other posters about the fact it's merely a cultural thing and not something we can do very much about by complaining. The Spanish etiquette is relatively mild compared to its Chinese counterpart:

"Me first" is how many visitors describe mainland Chinese. A lot of things that would be extremely rude in the western world are considered normal here: queue-jumping, crowding, pushing, spitting and even littering is status quo; about the only thing that will cause them to pause is a policeman wielding a large ticket book.
Pushing in the metro is normal, especially at the chaotic People's Square Station. Just dig in and push; don't feel sorry.

Crowding (aka no queue) is another problem you're likely to encounter. Whether at a ticket booth, at a busy fast food counter, or even at the grocery store, everyone jockeys for position by crowding around a staff member (say, to recharge their jiaotong card), and will do whatever possible to get in first, and get out.

http://wikitravel.org/en/Shanghai#Cope

:eek:

conorhal · 06-07-2013 04:19PM

The King of Moo wrote: »

August - June in After Hours: "We have to do something about these feral scum on our beaches and hanging round outside places blah blah blah, it wouldn't happen in any other country blah blah blah..."

July: "Spanish teenagers on buses are the worst, they're so f*cking rude talking loudly, much worse than Irish teenagers blah blah blah..."

Spanish teenagers don't drink, get into fights, intimidate people (neither do most Irish teenagers for that matter).
What do they do? They travel by bus from their host families to their schools, talking to each other in the same way teenagers from all over the world do. They're more noticeable because all Spanish people generally speak more loudly than Irish people, and Spanish are the most numerous group of foreign students. They spend a hell of a lot of money in Ireland.

I've just finished a week of overseeing a school with about 150 Spanish students and we haven't had a single disciplinary issue with any of them, inside or outside the school.

So what exactly is the problem with them? What do they actually do that's so bad?

Nothing really, the massive blue bottle that flew in my window five mins ago and is is currently zipping and buzzing around the room like it's on crack isn't really doing me any harm either, I still want to smash it with a rolled up newspaper though.....

How Soon Is Now · 06-07-2013 04:59PM

The Spanish always come across as loud think its just the language etc i noticed it when was living in Lanzarote as well.

Gimme them any day over some the ***** we produce over here anyway!!

06-07-2013 05:04PM

I like the Spanish. I recall a few years ago, in the prime of my teenage years, there was this pretty well known gob****e, who enjoyed intimidating people and just acting like Rambo's bollocks, in general.

Well, he tried intimidating a group of Spanish students one day, and unlike the Irish, the Spanish took none of his bollocks, and rather courteously engaged in a fight with said gob****e, and his subordinates.

titan18 · 06-07-2013 05:05PM

Some of their girls are hot, so I'm cool with them.

SpaceTime · 06-07-2013 05:18PM

If more of us spoke as loudly and clearly as most Spanish speakers do, I might be able to understand what's being said a bit more often!

A lot of younger people here (especially males) speak in a series of mumbled grunts.

Despite what people say about Spanish students and D4 accented 'gouys' who sound like BOD, at least they're understandable and completely clear! As are Americans.

I'm sick of dealing with 'mumblemumblrmuln' usually followed by staring at the ground and some inane giggle/shrug.

It's not a city/country thing either lads all over Ireland do this in all sorts of accents.

It applies in loads of parts of Britain too.

Reamer Fanny · 06-07-2013 05:21PM

I love their matching back packs

DEFTLEFTHAND · 06-07-2013 05:22PM

I've great time for the Spanish, they're my kind of people.

AlekSmart · 06-07-2013 06:46PM

dd972 wrote: »

I'd rather have them walking towards me blocking my path than the type of young blokes who killed that young Pole in Coolock in the early hours a year or two back.

Another factor with young Spanish or Italian exchange trippers is that the Milan's and Madrid's down in Southern Europe have great big plaza's for posing,people watching and coffee drinking that are more suited for those activities than Westmoreland Street.

I deal with them quite effectively on the bus by using a few suitable Spanish words like "Arriba Arriba...subit arriba,por favor" or such like .....being Spanish,the concept of an Upper Deck on a Bus can take a while to percolate down,so they tend to crowd around the bottom of the stairs and peer up in expectation of seeing Franco's Ghost at the top.

We kept Spanish Students for several years,but after having combined robbery/assaults perpetrated on them on three seperate occassions we decided to end it.

I could'nt imagine inflicting the young locals who "have the craic"nightly around my local shops,on the Spanish,as the endless grunting,cursing,and spitting might not be as easily tolerated by them as it is by us.

The Spanish Kids generally tend to find it easier to enjoy life for what it is,without having to slurp down litres of rotgut and whip out a blade to prove it.

AlekSmart · 06-07-2013 06:51PM

SpaceTime wrote: »

If more of us spoke as loudly and clearly as most Spanish speakers do, I might be able to understand what's being said a bit more often!

A lot of younger people here (especially males) speak in a series of mumbled grunts.

Despite what people say about Spanish students and D4 accented 'gouys' who sound like BOD, at least they're understandable and completely clear! As are Americans.

I'm sick of dealing with 'mumblemumblrmuln' usually followed by staring at the ground and some inane giggle/shrug.

It's not a city/country thing either lads all over Ireland do this in all sorts of accents.

It applies in loads of parts of Britain too.

Good point SpaceTime.

You want to try sittin behind a plexiglass security-screen and makin sense of the muttering,deep exhaling,and continual eye-contact evasion that surrounds Bus-Fare Payment.

I'm not sure if Children still get Eleocution Lessons,but the extra 6d a week that my Mammy paid to my Elocution Teacher in the Sacred Heart National School,Glasnevin, was money well spent

!

porsche959 · 06-07-2013 06:53PM

Old and grey wrote: »

No better or worse than our own in my opinion.

They're pretty annoying and they don't appear to understand the concept of a queue but on the other hand at least they're not physically threatening and openly yobbish, unlike a fair cross-section of Irish youth, particularly, frankly, those from less desirable areas.

bodice ripper · 06-07-2013 07:00PM

You do realise that Irish people mutter right? I think every nationality I have met speaks louder in public than the Irish.

K.Flyer · 06-07-2013 07:00PM

porsche959 wrote: »

... particularly, frankly, those from less desirable areas.

I've got the popcorn at the ready... I feel an area bashing moment coming on.

alph · 06-07-2013 07:00PM

I was on the Luas coming home from work on Friday from town and as the the tram was about to set off about 7 million Spanish teenagers jumped on. Somebody had the temerity to loudly shhhhh at them which worked for about 45 seconds.

Then they started to scream again despite standing 10 cm from the person they were talking to.

I wanted to burst my own ear drums by the time I reached my stop.

CrabRevolution · 06-07-2013 07:11PM

One post says Spanish people are better because unlike the irish they won't fight people who are annoying them.

Another post says Spanish people are better because unlike the irish they will fight people who are annoying them.

We just can't win can we?

Son Of A Vidic · 06-07-2013 07:17PM

Is it me, or have the Spanish student bashing threads been late starting this year?

K.Flyer · 06-07-2013 07:18PM

And as for the theory of Spanish teenagers not drinking outdoors.... well you need to witness what is referred to as "Botellón" in Spain.
Wiki description...
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botell%C3%B3n

ColeTrain · 06-07-2013 11:35PM

Saab Ed wrote: »

Or here for that matter. One of my most embarrasing moments was in the Que for passport control at Dublin airport about 4 years ago. A group of about 70-80 Celtic fans where waiting to get through. The bigotry was disgusting in the sectarian songs they were singing. They were all hammered and the sense of intimidation was palpable. Don't know what a stranger to good aul Ireland would have thought. Never saw a worse display of ignorance by any person from any other country anywhere else.

What songs were they singing out of interest?
If what you described above is "the worse display of ignorance by any person from any other country" then you've lived a very sheltered life.

Legs.Eleven wrote: »

You've never seen football hooligans anywhere else in the world? Jesus, I certainly have.

A group of lads singing a few songs aren't hooligans!

dan1895 wrote: »

Bloody horrible individuals. Wish they'd stay in Glasgow after their trip.

Do you know the group of individuals involved in this intimidating, holligan like form of violent singing or is that just a idiotic sweeping generalisation you've just posted?

Suckfisher · 06-07-2013 11:50PM

Was in Malahide two weeks ago and they had the whole path covered me and an auld wan couldnt pass said excuse me three times.
Kicked two of them in the leg and they soon got the message horrible pricks
them spicks always have been

EoghanIRL · 06-07-2013 11:53PM

Has no one seen Irish tourists abroad ?

ColeTrain · 06-07-2013 11:54PM

Suckfisher wrote: »

Was in Malahide two weeks ago and they had the whole path covered me and an auld wan couldnt pass said excuse me three times.
Kicked two of them in the leg and they soon got the message horrible pricks
them spicks always have been

Do you work for Bord Failte?

Frank Black · 07-07-2013 12:06AM

It's horrible the way they congregate in large groups, drinking, smoking, cursing, fighting........ Oh wait, that's us.

IrishExpat · 07-07-2013 12:08AM

It's a loud language, no question.

That said I'd look closer to home before criticising a large number of students coming over an injecting a sizeable amount of cash into our economy.

I've had many uncomfortable trips on Irish public transport with loud, aggressive behaviour and a few attempts at intimidation while waiting for LUAS/Bus - all from our very own, home grown, Irish variety scumbag.

I'll take happy, chatting students over a junkie out to cause trouble.

Here in Madrid you just quickly get used to the volume and zero concept of queuing up and walking 4 abreast to take up the footpath, and do like-wise.

MistyCheese · 07-07-2013 12:11AM

K.Flyer wrote: »

And as for the theory of Spanish teenagers not drinking outdoors.... well you need to witness what is referred to as "Botellón" in Spain.
Wiki description...
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botell%C3%B3n

Spent many a drunken afternoon on the Plaça de Catalunya or sometimes in Parc Güell as a teen.

Lucena · 07-07-2013 12:58AM

IrishExpat wrote: »

It's a loud language, no question.

That said I'd look closer to home before criticising a large number of students coming over an injecting a sizeable amount of cash into our economy.

I've had many uncomfortable trips on Irish public transport with loud, aggressive behaviour and a few attempts at intimidation while waiting for LUAS/Bus - all from our very own, home grown, Irish variety scumbag.

I'll take happy, chatting students over a junkie out to cause trouble.

Here in Madrid you just quickly get used to the volume and zero concept of queuing up and walking 4 abreast to take up the footpath, and do like-wise.

That would do my feckin' head in!

07-07-2013 01:48AM

camel jockey wrote: »

Indeed. They always go out of their way to ensure they aren't blocking doors / platforms / footpaths when in large groups. It is one of the things I most admire about them. That, and the wonderful silence that emanates from them.

And pickpocketing/shoplifting is the last thing on their mind in Ireland i can assure you

Lapin · 07-07-2013 03:31AM

K.Flyer wrote: »

And as for the theory of Spanish teenagers not drinking outdoors.... well you need to witness what is referred to as "Botellón" in Spain.
Wiki description...
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botell%C3%B3n

Now I know the Spanish for "Bushin".

Cheers for that !

You learn something new everyday.

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