Spanish students on public transport...

Foxhound38

... are wonderfully courteous, quiet and mindful of their fellow passengers, aren't they?

dxhound2005

Qué ?

camel jockey

Indeed. They always go out of their way to ensure they aren't blocking doors / platforms / footpaths when in large groups. It is one of the things I most admire about them. That, and the wonderful silence that emanates from them.

Sir Humphrey Appleby

Foxhound38 wrote: »

... are wonderfully courteous, quiet and mindful of their fellow passengers, aren't they?

No better or worse than our own in my opinion.

suicide_circus

Old and grey wrote: »

No better or worse than our own in my opinion.

you're wrong there

dodderangler

Get a car then!?

camel jockey

Old and grey wrote: »

No better or worse than our own in my opinion.

Afraid not.

MurdyWurdy

I also love how none of them ever smoke and blow it all over you and your baby in his pram. Charming.

The Backwards Man

I love how Irish people always behave in exemplary fashion when a large group of them visit another country.

Sir Humphrey Appleby

suicide_circus wrote: »

you're wrong there

Nope, I can assure you I'm not!:)

Sir Humphrey Appleby

MurdyWurdy wrote: »

I also love how none of them ever smoke and blow it all over you and your baby in his pram. Charming.

Unlike our own shower who smoke , drink, shoot up, and fight on public transport.

camel jockey

dodderangler wrote: »

Get a car then!?

Great solution.

Legs.Eleven

Haha!

holystungun9

It's a culture thing. I am a generally laid-back kind of person but a day doesn't pass here (in Madrid) that I am not irritated by people blocking ways - doorways, entrances to anything, escalators, every fking thing. I'm sure that someday I will come home and open the fridge and some cnut will be in it not realising they could possibly be causing any inconvenience.
And people who walk with their head down, stuck in their phone feeling it is everybody else's responsibility to watch out for them and politely steer out of the way. Eh, no amigo, time for some of that The Verve Bitter Sweet Symphony elbow action!
And people, who at peak travel times get to the top of an escalator with a string of people behind them and stop at the top of the escalator to fish out their ticket or just fking look at their reflection somewhere.
This 38 degree heat is melting my normally chilled out out look on things.

On a positive note, forgetting the lack of spatial awareness and their ear-splitting loudness (at times), the Spanish are pretty sound.

Saab Ed

The Backwards Man wrote: »

I love how Irish people always behave in exemplary fashion when a large group of them visit another country.

Or here for that matter. One of my most embarrasing moments was in the Que for passport control at Dublin airport about 4 years ago. A group of about 70-80 Celtic fans where waiting to get through. The bigotry was disgusting in the sectarian songs they were singing. They were all hammered and the sense of intimidation was palpable. Don't know what a stranger to good aul Ireland would have thought. Never saw a worse display of ignorance by any person from any other country anywhere else.

McCrack

Foxhound38 wrote: »

... are wonderfully courteous, quiet and mindful of their fellow passengers, aren't they?

Are they? I'm not a bus wanker so I couldn't say.

SpaceTime

Just push past! That's how its done in Spain.

tinofapples

camel jockey wrote: »

Indeed. They always go out of their way to ensure they aren't blocking doors / platforms / footpaths when in large groups. It is one of the things I most admire about them. That, and the wonderful silence that emanates from them.

Couldn't have put it better myself.

IM0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lyu1KKwC74

dan1895

Saab Ed wrote: »

Or here for that matter. One of my most embarrasing moments was in the Que for passport control at Dublin airport about 4 years ago. A group of about 70-80 Celtic fans where waiting to get through. The bigotry was disgusting in the sectarian songs they were singing. They were all hammered and the sense of intimidation was palpable. Don't know what a stranger to good aul Ireland would have thought. Never saw a worse display of ignorance by any person from any other country anywhere else.

Bloody horrible individuals. Wish they'd stay in Glasgow after their trip.

Legs.Eleven

Saab Ed wrote: »

Or here for that matter. One of my most embarrasing moments was in the Que for passport control at Dublin airport about 4 years ago. A group of about 70-80 Celtic fans where waiting to get through. The bigotry was disgusting in the sectarian songs they were singing. They were all hammered and the sense of intimidation was palpable. Don't know what a stranger to good aul Ireland would have thought. Never saw a worse display of ignorance by any person from any other country anywhere else.

You've never seen football hooligans anywhere else in the world? Jesus, I certainly have.

Toby Take a Bow

I always thought some of the perceived loudness of the Spanish students was to do with them being a large group of kids, them speaking in a language alien to the majority of us as well as them knowing this (so they can speak loudly and freely presuming nobody will know what they're saying). To be honest, for me, they're only mildly more annoying than a large group of Irish teenagers on a bus.

Jonny7

camel jockey wrote: »

Indeed. They always go out of their way to ensure they aren't blocking doors / platforms / footpaths when in large groups. It is one of the things I most admire about them. That, and the wonderful silence that emanates from them.

Certainly a change from groups of Irish teenagers smoking and drinking on the dart, abusing people, setting newspapers on fire, the little rascals

Sirsok

The Backwards Man wrote: »

I love how Irish people always behave in exemplary fashion when a large group of them visit another country.

Ahh shut up

Wanderer2010

They are definitely the loudest tourist group I have come across, not just on buses but they seem to think they have the right to block aisles in shops with their very loud chat, barge through people and slam doors, very rude and disrespectful behavior. I have stopped trying to be nice to Spanish tourists, if they are clearly standing in the way they are getting an elbow. If I could ask one thing of them, KEEP IT DOWN A BIT. :mad:

Aidric

The Backwards Man wrote: »

I love how Irish people always behave in exemplary fashion when a large group of them visit another country.

Yep. You'd swear this doesn't go on in every other European country that a group of teenagers visit.

The King of Moo

August - June in After Hours: "We have to do something about these feral scum on our beaches and hanging round outside places blah blah blah, it wouldn't happen in any other country blah blah blah..."

July: "Spanish teenagers on buses are the worst, they're so f*cking rude talking loudly, much worse than Irish teenagers blah blah blah..."

Spanish teenagers don't drink, get into fights, intimidate people (neither do most Irish teenagers for that matter).
What do they do? They travel by bus from their host families to their schools, talking to each other in the same way teenagers from all over the world do. They're more noticeable because all Spanish people generally speak more loudly than Irish people, and Spanish are the most numerous group of foreign students. They spend a hell of a lot of money in Ireland.

I've just finished a week of overseeing a school with about 150 Spanish students and we haven't had a single disciplinary issue with any of them, inside or outside the school.

So what exactly is the problem with them? What do they actually do that's so bad?

SpaceTime

I've lived in Spain and teenagers aren't angels there either but they're no worse than our lot.

Spanish is just a very loud language and people can have conversations right across other conversions sometimes. They're also very confident about public speaking.

You just have to think of them as being a bit more like Americans in terms of having really loud conversations.

They block the street but you can safely just push through the blockage where as I would be a bit nervous of doing that with irish or British teens who would probably react badly.

Seriously though, there far worse things to deal with than noisy teenagers! I regularly read similar comments about Irish teens in Cork hanging around Paul Street Plaza doing such terrible things as hugging and running around in a high spirited manner while taking loudly.

Some people are frightful bores!

FTA69

The King of Moo wrote: »

August - June in After Hours: "We have to do something about these feral scum on our beaches and hanging round outside places blah blah blah, it wouldn't happen in any other country blah blah blah..."

July: "Spanish teenagers on buses are the worst, they're so f*cking rude talking loudly, much worse than Irish teenagers blah blah blah..."

Spanish teenagers don't drink, get into fights, intimidate people (neither do most Irish teenagers for that matter).
What do they do? They travel by bus from their host families to their schools, talking to each other in the same way teenagers from all over the world do. They're more noticeable because all Spanish people generally speak more loudly than Irish people, and Spanish are the most numerous group of foreign students. They spend a hell of a lot of money in Ireland.

I've just finished a week of overseeing a school with about 150 Spanish students and we haven't had a single disciplinary issue with any of them, inside or outside the school.

So what exactly is the problem with them? What do they actually do that's so bad?

All of the above is 100% true.

They're still a pain the hole though.

RobbingBandit

Safe to go out now I presume, they should be all having their afternoon naps now...

anncoates

They're just kids on holiday in a foreign country with their mates.

Nothing any of us didn't do. Well, the normal ones I mean.

dd972

I'd rather have them walking towards me blocking my path than the type of young blokes who killed that young Pole in Coolock in the early hours a year or two back.

Another factor with young Spanish or Italian exchange trippers is that the Milan's and Madrid's down in Southern Europe have great big plaza's for posing,people watching and coffee drinking that are more suited for those activities than Westmoreland Street.

PizzamanIRL

Ah would you give them a break instead of moaning every year they come over here and spend their money on our stuff.

spankysue

I really don't see what the problem is, they're loud? What teenagers aren't loud?

They block things? What about the people that block doorways and entrances the rest of the year? The rare occasion I use public transport, there's always at least two huge prams on it, aimed out towards the middle of the aisle so I have to use my mad ninja skills to get past them.

Give them a break ffs, they're just kids and they're not here all year round anyway.

wretcheddomain

I agree with one of the other posters about the fact it's merely a cultural thing and not something we can do very much about by complaining. The Spanish etiquette is relatively mild compared to its Chinese counterpart:

"Me first" is how many visitors describe mainland Chinese. A lot of things that would be extremely rude in the western world are considered normal here: queue-jumping, crowding, pushing, spitting and even littering is status quo; about the only thing that will cause them to pause is a policeman wielding a large ticket book.
Pushing in the metro is normal, especially at the chaotic People's Square Station. Just dig in and push; don't feel sorry.

Crowding (aka no queue) is another problem you're likely to encounter. Whether at a ticket booth, at a busy fast food counter, or even at the grocery store, everyone jockeys for position by crowding around a staff member (say, to recharge their jiaotong card), and will do whatever possible to get in first, and get out.

http://wikitravel.org/en/Shanghai#Cope

:eek:

conorhal

The King of Moo wrote: »

August - June in After Hours: "We have to do something about these feral scum on our beaches and hanging round outside places blah blah blah, it wouldn't happen in any other country blah blah blah..."

July: "Spanish teenagers on buses are the worst, they're so f*cking rude talking loudly, much worse than Irish teenagers blah blah blah..."

Spanish teenagers don't drink, get into fights, intimidate people (neither do most Irish teenagers for that matter).
What do they do? They travel by bus from their host families to their schools, talking to each other in the same way teenagers from all over the world do. They're more noticeable because all Spanish people generally speak more loudly than Irish people, and Spanish are the most numerous group of foreign students. They spend a hell of a lot of money in Ireland.

I've just finished a week of overseeing a school with about 150 Spanish students and we haven't had a single disciplinary issue with any of them, inside or outside the school.

So what exactly is the problem with them? What do they actually do that's so bad?

Nothing really, the massive blue bottle that flew in my window five mins ago and is is currently zipping and buzzing around the room like it's on crack isn't really doing me any harm either, I still want to smash it with a rolled up newspaper though.....

How Soon Is Now

The Spanish always come across as loud think its just the language etc i noticed it when was living in Lanzarote as well.

Gimme them any day over some the ***** we produce over here anyway!!

I like the Spanish. I recall a few years ago, in the prime of my teenage years, there was this pretty well known gob****e, who enjoyed intimidating people and just acting like Rambo's bollocks, in general.

Well, he tried intimidating a group of Spanish students one day, and unlike the Irish, the Spanish took none of his bollocks, and rather courteously engaged in a fight with said gob****e, and his subordinates.

titan18

Some of their girls are hot, so I'm cool with them.

SpaceTime

If more of us spoke as loudly and clearly as most Spanish speakers do, I might be able to understand what's being said a bit more often!

A lot of younger people here (especially males) speak in a series of mumbled grunts.

Despite what people say about Spanish students and D4 accented 'gouys' who sound like BOD, at least they're understandable and completely clear! As are Americans.

I'm sick of dealing with 'mumblemumblrmuln' usually followed by staring at the ground and some inane giggle/shrug.

It's not a city/country thing either lads all over Ireland do this in all sorts of accents.

It applies in loads of parts of Britain too.

Reamer Fanny

I love their matching back packs

DEFTLEFTHAND

I've great time for the Spanish, they're my kind of people.

AlekSmart

dd972 wrote: »

I'd rather have them walking towards me blocking my path than the type of young blokes who killed that young Pole in Coolock in the early hours a year or two back.

Another factor with young Spanish or Italian exchange trippers is that the Milan's and Madrid's down in Southern Europe have great big plaza's for posing,people watching and coffee drinking that are more suited for those activities than Westmoreland Street.

I deal with them quite effectively on the bus by using a few suitable Spanish words like "Arriba Arriba...subit arriba,por favor" or such like .....being Spanish,the concept of an Upper Deck on a Bus can take a while to percolate down,so they tend to crowd around the bottom of the stairs and peer up in expectation of seeing Franco's Ghost at the top.

We kept Spanish Students for several years,but after having combined robbery/assaults perpetrated on them on three seperate occassions we decided to end it.

I could'nt imagine inflicting the young locals who "have the craic"nightly around my local shops,on the Spanish,as the endless grunting,cursing,and spitting might not be as easily tolerated by them as it is by us.

The Spanish Kids generally tend to find it easier to enjoy life for what it is,without having to slurp down litres of rotgut and whip out a blade to prove it.

AlekSmart

SpaceTime wrote: »

If more of us spoke as loudly and clearly as most Spanish speakers do, I might be able to understand what's being said a bit more often!

A lot of younger people here (especially males) speak in a series of mumbled grunts.

Despite what people say about Spanish students and D4 accented 'gouys' who sound like BOD, at least they're understandable and completely clear! As are Americans.

I'm sick of dealing with 'mumblemumblrmuln' usually followed by staring at the ground and some inane giggle/shrug.

It's not a city/country thing either lads all over Ireland do this in all sorts of accents.

It applies in loads of parts of Britain too.

Good point SpaceTime.

You want to try sittin behind a plexiglass security-screen and makin sense of the muttering,deep exhaling,and continual eye-contact evasion that surrounds Bus-Fare Payment.

I'm not sure if Children still get Eleocution Lessons,but the extra 6d a week that my Mammy paid to my Elocution Teacher in the Sacred Heart National School,Glasnevin, was money well spent !

porsche959

Old and grey wrote: »

No better or worse than our own in my opinion.

They're pretty annoying and they don't appear to understand the concept of a queue but on the other hand at least they're not physically threatening and openly yobbish, unlike a fair cross-section of Irish youth, particularly, frankly, those from less desirable areas.

bodice ripper

You do realise that Irish people mutter right? I think every nationality I have met speaks louder in public than the Irish.

K.Flyer

porsche959 wrote: »

... particularly, frankly, those from less desirable areas.

I've got the popcorn at the ready... I feel an area bashing moment coming on.

alph

I was on the Luas coming home from work on Friday from town and as the the tram was about to set off about 7 million Spanish teenagers jumped on. Somebody had the temerity to loudly shhhhh at them which worked for about 45 seconds.

Then they started to scream again despite standing 10 cm from the person they were talking to.

I wanted to burst my own ear drums by the time I reached my stop.

CrabRevolution

One post says Spanish people are better because unlike the irish they won't fight people who are annoying them.

Another post says Spanish people are better because unlike the irish they will fight people who are annoying them.

We just can't win can we?

Son Of A Vidic

Is it me, or have the Spanish student bashing threads been late starting this year?

K.Flyer

And as for the theory of Spanish teenagers not drinking outdoors.... well you need to witness what is referred to as "Botellón" in Spain.
Wiki description...
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botell%C3%B3n