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Garda Oath

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,443 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Nice to see AH honouring the ancient and noble tradition of the 'hitchslap'! Funny thread.

    Sorry OP.

    :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,073 ✭✭✭gobnaitolunacy


    I know it appears the guy is under the influence of drink

    Yes, he does act like an oaf.

    oaf (plural oafs)
    (pejorative) A person, especially a large male, who is clumsy or a simpleton; an idiot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,443 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Yes, he does act like an oaf.

    oaf (plural oafs)
    (pejorative) A person, especially a large male, who is clumsy or a simpleton; an idiot.
    Maybe he was asking if the guard was on his 'oaf'. Doesn't make any more sense, but in some ways even funnier.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,002 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    Everything in bold writing you try to dismiss is a load of ****e. Each and every member of AGS swears an oath under common law. This is their oath of office. the video I posted on this thread was from a person who recorded AGS members that seemed to forget this fundamental Oath I'll post the Oath in plain text again for you to show its importance it has in todays Irish Law...
    I hereby solemnly and sincerely declare before God that—
    -I will faithfully discharge the duties of a member of the Garda Síochána with fairness, integrity, regard for human rights, diligence and impartiality, upholding the Constitution and the laws and according equal respect to all people,
    -while I continue to be a member, I will to the best of my skill and knowledge discharge all my duties according to law, and
    -I do not belong to, and will not while I remain a member form, belong to or subscribe to, any political party or secret society whatsoever."
    Section 16(2) allows the words "before God" to be omitted from the declaration at the request of the declarant.

    I must say that Garda maintained a very professional and patiend demeanour during the "incident".

    Certainly appeared to be upholding the basics of his Solemn Declaration in the face of,what reasonable people,would take to be a form of unstable behaviour.

    Without getting too personal about it,does this person have other issues at play in their life that may impair their judgement on occasion ?


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Is this a D'unbelieveables type thing?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,443 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Bambi wrote: »
    Is this a D'unbelieveables type thing?
    Nope. Its real.

    Where d'you think d'unbelieveables get d'inspiration for d'characters?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    I thought those freemen were like merry men, living in a bog in mayo with bows and arrows and all that.

    Bit disappointed tbh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,443 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Bambi wrote: »
    I thought those freemen were like merry men, living in a bog in mayo with bows and arrows and all that.

    Bit disappointed tbh
    If only.

    It'd be kinda cool if they were...

    http://www.lspace.org/ftp/images/bookcovers/uk/the-wee-free-men-1.jpg


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 919 ✭✭✭wicklowstevo


    That may be true but there's a catch...

    The "Officer of the peace" must be wearing his hat - otherwise the oath doesn't count and the drunk can perform a citizen's arrest on the Gárda.

    I didn't see the video but was the Gárda wearing his hat?


    Im sorry but you sir are an idiot ! do you hear me ?
    under your definition a plain clothes garda has no power or arrest is that correct? if a garda who is arresting a rapist has his hat knocked off during the arrest he must allow the rapist to escape ?

    I ve had a few conversations with these freemen creatures socially and they all profess not to recognise the authority of the state over them , yet each of them went to collage and schools funded by the state , live in state subsides housing and are accepting social welfare payments having worked in some pissy job for at best a few years .
    I accept your choice to step away from out disgusting government but that also disentitles you from benefiting from any state service or protection. conversations with such idiots usually end thus , 2 So if I decide to kick you all over this room who you gona call Bat man ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭General General


    Jester252 wrote: »
    I wonder if he is a first year law student trying to show off.

    Are there PLC courses in Law now?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,387 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Is this a Hardy Bucks sketch?

    Expected him to start spouting that freeman nonsense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,360 ✭✭✭Wompa1


    Are there PLC courses in Law now?

    Like a PLC course would somehow be worse than any other Irish third level institute. It's all ****e


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,101 ✭✭✭✭lertsnim


    The guy filming is some arsehole.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 847 ✭✭✭Gambas


    "Dave, dey'll beeg ya de will"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭General General


    Wompa1 wrote: »
    Like a PLC course would somehow be worse than any other Irish third level institute. It's all ****e

    Let me guess: a first in Medicine?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,089 ✭✭✭keelanj69


    Do I sow my own oats?

    The fúck does that have to do with anything would be my response if I were that Garda.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Sofiztikated


    I'm going to guess what happened here.

    Gardai called to the apartment, after a call about noise or whatever.
    Lad in the Mayo jeysey, probably the owner/leaser of said apartment, trying to deal with the Gardai, probably something along the lines of, "Sorry Gard, sorry Gard, we'll turn down the music Gard, sorry Gard"
    Fúcktard with the camera starts piping up.
    Gardai can't understand what yer man is trying to say, I know I had a hard time listening to him.
    Gets told by his friends to shut the fúck up.
    Posts it to Youtube, Attestatatatatatatatation Oats.
    Posts to Boards.ie
    Gets ripped apart from most normal people.

    I really don't get why most people go down the "Fúck the Gardai" route.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,829 ✭✭✭Nemeses


    No Idea whats happening in this video but was the drunkard offering the Guards some Oats as some form of a sneaky brown envelope trick?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 290 ✭✭Problem123456


    Jesus that's like something out of the Hardy Bucks...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 655 ✭✭✭Hunter Mahan


    I just got sent this video by a friend. The guy in it is asking some Garda do they know their Oath of Office. The Reply from the members involved is shocking to say the lest.

    Im a very big advocate of people knowing their rights regarding the law of Ireland and feel that as irish people we should understand irish law a lot better than we do already, but this guy asks what looks like senior Garda about their oath of office and the response is shocking to say the lest. I know it appears the guy is under the influence of drink but the response of these Garda is shocking and un-educated to say the lest.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmqTCDyNcYE&feature=c4-overview&list=UUHYMIu6SD45fHKnmdety7_A

    If you find that shocking Dangermouse then you live a sheltered life, what happens when you watch sky news? Must be close to a coronary.

    I watched that drivel and like someone else previously said, I will never get that time back, but at no stage did the drunk come close to saying anything like this: "The guy in it is asking some Garda do they know their Oath of Office"

    He kept shouting "are you on your oath?"

    There are about 10000 other freemen videos on YouTube that you could have picked to be outraged and shocked about, but not this one, you picked the wrong wagon to jump on...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 57,077 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Oats are getting very popular of late.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 476 ✭✭christ on a bike!


    Awful lot of cops there though, what's that about do you think?

    Hash?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,087 ✭✭✭Pro Hoc Vice


    Sorry I cant see the funny side of all this. It is pretty sad that some one asks Police if they're acting under their Oath and they don't even know what the person is talking about.

    They don't know what they are talking about, because its a load of rubbish, can you point at any legislation that requires the Garda to answer such a stupid question its freeman rubbish made up law. Are you folling the oath you took when you joind the inter web under the oaths and other rubbish and Internet Act 1986 section 5.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,087 ✭✭✭Pro Hoc Vice


    So someone asking a police officer of the Irish state if they are acting under irish law and confirm that, is bull****, How is that wasting anyones time? accountability of all state organisations is surely the way to go?

    All members of the force on duty are acting under law asking them are they "under their oath" what does that even mean its legal made up mumbo jumbo, do a search for freeman on this forum its rubbish plain and simple. There is a very good judgement from Canada that debunks this sh1t.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 57,077 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Sorry I cant see the funny side of all this. It is pretty sad that some one asks Police if they're acting under their Oath and they don't even know what the person is talking about.

    You would need to read up on this rubbish as you are only belittling yourself repeating that crap.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,087 ✭✭✭Pro Hoc Vice


    Wompa1 wrote: »
    Do you mean oath or do you mean reading you your rights?? Why did the cops come around?

    AGS only need to read you your rights or put you under caution if they are arresting you. After arrest and at the station the member in charge will make sure you are fully aware of your rights.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,299 ✭✭✭sdanseo


    I just got sent this video by a friend.

    Circulating a video like that to anyone with the intention that it be taken seriously is a display of ignorance in itself.
    I just got sent this video by a friend.The guy in it is asking some Garda do they know their Oath of Office.

    Gardaí don't have to recite their oath of office on spec. It's repeated after prompting on attestation and there's no particular requirement to know it by heart, and certainly not to remember it perpetually. The only thing a Garda must recite is a standard caution - I won't pretend to know it but it goes something along the lines of "you are not obliged to say anything, anything you do say will be taken down in writing and may be given in evidence" etc etc.
    The Reply from the members involved is shocking to say the lest.

    You should proof-read your posts.
    Im a very big advocate of people knowing their rights regarding the law of Ireland and feel that as irish people we should understand irish law a lot better than we do already,

    Knowing your rights is all well and good, if you actually know them. It doesn't excuse the buffoon in the video from acting like a moron, or at least coming across as one, because he's spouting rubbish that has no legal basis.
    but this guy asks what looks like senior Garda about their oath of office and the response is shocking to say the lest.

    The most senior Garda there is Sergeant - two ranks above the bottom.
    I know it appears the guy is under the influence of drink but the response of these Garda is shocking and un-educated to say the lest.

    You've mentioned the shocking nature of this perfectly normal behaviour several times. I'm shocked and appalled at the lack of effort put into ensuring your posts are fit for consumption before you press submit.

    I think the person filming the video makes themselves out to be not only much less educated than the Gardaí present, but also arrogant, uninformed and downright stupid. They have no knowledge (or probably even any desire to obtain knowledge) of why the Gardaí are there, what their rights and obligations are or how to generally conduct themselves like a normal human being.

    I have no objection to people taking issue with a Garda during an interaction with them. I don't even particuarly mind those that video proceedings for their own defence. But please, just like if you were to get involved in an argument in a different language, make sure if you're going to protest or cause objection that you're not simply spouting rubbish like that lunatic.

    For the record, I am not and have never been a Garda or Police Officer, anywhere.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,495 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    I just got sent this video by a friend. The guy in it is asking some Garda do they know their Oath of Office. The Reply from the members involved is shocking to say the lest.

    Im a very big advocate of people knowing their rights regarding the law of Ireland and feel that as irish people we should understand irish law a lot better than we do already, but this guy asks what looks like senior Garda about their oath of office and the response is shocking to say the lest. I know it appears the guy is under the influence of drink but the response of these Garda is shocking and un-educated to say the lest.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmqTCDyNcYE&feature=c4-overview&list=UUHYMIu6SD45fHKnmdety7_A

    A Garda is always under oath so the question is not valid , the Garda couldn't understand him and its an odd question to ask and makes no sense


  • Posts: 5,172 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I just got sent this video by a friend. The guy in it is asking some Garda do they know their Oath of Office. The Reply from the members involved is shocking to say the lest.

    Im a very big advocate of people knowing their rights regarding the law of Ireland and feel that as irish people we should understand irish law a lot better than we do already, but this guy asks what looks like senior Garda about their oath of office and the response is shocking to say the lest. I know it appears the guy is under the influence of drink but the response of these Garda is shocking and un-educated to say the lest.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmqTCDyNcYE&feature=c4-overview&list=UUHYMIu6SD45fHKnmdety7_A


    The guy behind the camera is an absolute plank.

    /THREAD.


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