Garda Oath

danger mouse

I just got sent this video by a friend. The guy in it is asking some Garda do they know their Oath of Office. The Reply from the members involved is shocking to say the lest.

Im a very big advocate of people knowing their rights regarding the law of Ireland and feel that as irish people we should understand irish law a lot better than we do already, but this guy asks what looks like senior Garda about their oath of office and the response is shocking to say the lest. I know it appears the guy is under the influence of drink but the response of these Garda is shocking and un-educated to say the lest.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmqTCDyNcYE&feature=c4-overview&list=UUHYMIu6SD45fHKnmdety7_A

Cookie_Monster

At least you say it's shocking

madchild

FLAHVINS

jamesbondings

The only shocking thing about this whole thing is that i watched it in its entirety. I wouldn't deal with that spanner either feel like 2 minutes of my life have been wasted.... Thanks op

Senna

What's shocking?? the guard cant even understand what fella is shouting and has to ask him repeatedly to repeat it.

The morons that post videos like these only portray themselves in a bad light, I cant see any wrong doing by the guards.

endacl

Dey doan even no dere oan oats!

Looked to me like a guard doing his best to ignore a bell end who was doing his best to piss off a guard.

Calm guard - 1
Bell end - 0

Riddle101

I don't see the problem here. The guy with the camera seems to be acting the eejit to me, but that's it.

The Backwards Man

If that lad keeps talking about oats like that won't be long til he's doing porridge.

Karl Stein

Of Oats and Porridge.

carzony

To many of these **** garda utube vids lately.. They really can't do anything without getting filmed :rolleyes:

Jester252

I wonder if he is a first year law student trying to show off.

endacl

The Backwards Man wrote: »

If that lad keeps talking about oats like that won't be long til he's doing porridge.

Now its opportunities for quips like that make these threads worthwhile!

Got any more vids OP?

Jester252

I also love how he is cursing at the guards and then claims he broke not laws. Fair play to the guy in the longford jearsy and the guards for dealing with the matter with a fool yelling his head off.

mcmoustache

I haven't seen the video nor have I properly read the op but is this some freeman shíte?

danger mouse

Sorry I cant see the funny side of all this. It is pretty sad that some one asks Police if they're acting under their Oath and they don't even know what the person is talking about.

kc90

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

At least you say it's shocking

...to say the lest

danger mouse

mcmoustache wrote: »

I haven't seen the video nor have I properly read the op but is this some freeman shíte?

Im the OP and dont know what you mean by "freeman ****e"
Can you please explain your post?

Canis Lupus

danger mouse wrote: »

Sorry I cant see the funny side of all this. It is pretty sad that some one asks Police if they're acting under their Oath and they don't even know what the person is talking about.

Awh, you upset no one else joined in on your f**k da POlice attempt? Ah well, better luck next time.

Artful_Badger

danger mouse wrote: »

Sorry I cant see the funny side of all this. It is pretty sad that some one asks Police if they're acting under their Oath and they don't even know what the person is talking about.

I dont see the funny side either. Another idiot spouting freeman bullshít and wasting Garda time.

danger mouse

Canis Lupus wrote: »

Awh, you upset no one else joined in on your f**k da POlice attempt? Ah well, better luck next time.

I honestly dont have that attitude Im a law abiding person. But just thought it was sad what happened at the start of the video.

Artful_Badger

danger mouse wrote: »

Im the OP and dont know what you mean by "freeman ****e"
Can you please explain your post?

Its pseudo legal jibberish most scummers try to use to confuse Gardai. They work of some misinterpretation of old style law crap thats not relevant to anything today to try and argue people cannot be held legally responsible for anything.

chuckster

danger mouse wrote: »

I just got sent this video by a friend. The guy in it is asking some Garda do they know their Oath of Office. The Reply from the members involved is shocking to say the lest.

Im a very big advocate of people knowing their rights regarding the law of Ireland and feel that as irish people we should understand irish law a lot better than we do already, but this guy asks what looks like senior Garda about their oath of office and the response is shocking to say the lest. I know it appears the guy is under the influence of drink but the response of these Garda is shocking and un-educated to say the lest.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmqTCDyNcYE&feature=c4-overview&list=UUHYMIu6SD45fHKnmdety7_A

What is shocking about it? Some absolute dope, who I would imagine has nothing to do with the situation, ranting his head off at Guards.
Maybe if he could speak proper english and pronounce his words they would have undertsood him. even at that they should have still ignored the tosser.

You go roaring at a Guard on the street about breakfast cereal and see what reaction you get!

danger mouse

Artful_Badger wrote: »

I dont see the funny side either. Another idiot spouting freeman bullshít and wasting Garda time.

So someone asking a police officer of the Irish state if they are acting under irish law and confirm that, is bull****, How is that wasting anyones time? accountability of all state organisations is surely the way to go?

deisedave

Jester252 wrote: »

I wonder if he is a first year law student trying to show off.

I wonder if this is a failed attempt at getting thanks.

Tom_Cruise

danger mouse wrote: »

So someone asking a police officer of the Irish state if they are acting under irish law and confirm that, is bull****, How is that wasting anyones time? accountability of all state organisations is surely the way to go?

Just lol

Jester252

danger mouse wrote: »

Sorry I cant see the funny side of all this. It is pretty sad that some one asks Police if they're acting under their Oath and they don't even know what the person is talking about.

Be it the guards or the pizza delivery guy they don't engage with the drunken fool yelling his his head off who has nothing to do with the situation

policarp

Horse dealers trying to buy oats.
What's new here?

mcmoustache

danger mouse wrote: »

Im the OP and dont know what you mean by "freeman ****e"
Can you please explain your post?

Gladly.

First of all, I must explain that I'm hammered because I'm off on holidays in the afternoon. Just in case I ramble or start sentences with words that don't go there.


Anyway, the freeman shíte mentioned earlier refers to people who, during interactions with enforcers of the the law, think that they are beyond their (the enforcers) jurisdiction. They often claim that they "don't consent" or "don't stand under" or even recognise that the enforcers (AGS) have power over them.

You'll often hear them ask AGS for their oath or ask to see his hat because an arrest, while legal, can only be "lawful" if the Gárda is wearing his hat correctly... or so they believe.

They are grade A loons and their ideas have become fashionable over the last 4 years. The CT and Legal Discussion forum have loads of material on them. I'd recommend reading more here on boards.

policarp

Thank God he wasn't wearing a GAA jersey.




Or was he?

Wompa1

mcmoustache wrote: »

Gladly.

First of all, I must explain that I'm hammered because I'm off on holidays in the afternoon. Just in case I ramble or start sentences with words that don't go there.


Anyway, the freeman shíte mentioned earlier refers to people who, during interactions with enforcers of the the law, think that they are beyond their (the enforcers) jurisdiction. They often claim that they "don't consent" or "don't stand under" or even recognise that the enforcers (AGS) have power over them.

You'll often hear them ask AGS for their oath or ask to see his hat because an arrest, while legal, can only be "lawful" if the Gárda is wearing his hat correctly... or so they believe.

They are grade A loons and their ideas have become fashionable over the last 4 years. The CT and Legal Discussion forum have loads of material on them. I'd recommend reading more here on boards.

Do you mean oath or do you mean reading you your rights?? Why did the cops come around?

MooShop

No wonder the Gards didn't reply.

When I started watching that video, which I expected to be some Freeman/Common Law BS, I couldn't understand what the guy was spouting either.

I was full sure he was saying "Are you on your own?" The Garda repeatedly asked him to repeat himself and duly ignored the bumbling idiot as not to inflame the situation. Later on in the video, he asks the Garda "Are you on your yoath?"

However, at no point OP do I hear the Garda state that he doesn't know his oath. He just ignored a drunken idiot that was trying to cause trouble and dealt with the member of that group who was willing to co-operate and talk to the Gardai without shouting abuse at them.

Roqueandrolle.

The best part of the video is when it cuts to the next one in the playlist and we see an Alsatian playing in the snow. I love Alsatians.

mcmoustache

Actually OP, you don't appear to be insane so I'll give you a bit more info on Freeman shíte. First google "Sovereign Citizen" and "Freeman of the land". Then read the Wikipedia link - it should be in the top 5.

It's a hilarious movement. The basic idea is that you don't have to follow the law if you don't recognise the state's jurisdiction over you. You follow common law and contract law but not statute law for some reason.

But, even better still, you get to make up which parts of contract law and common law that you follow. It's a bit like a catholic approach to the law. Essentially, you can choose not to recognise the state and still use its roads without its terms of use - motor/emissions tax and having a road-worthy vehicle. You can ignore the laws about drugs possession but insist on the statutes that mean you get social welfare.

It's all mad.

That's why, when I hear of some asṡhóle asking a member of AGS about his oath that I think he is most likely a loon/

mcmoustache

Wompa1 wrote: »

Do you mean oath or do you mean reading you your rights?? Why did the cops come around?

I've no idea.

As I said, I didn't read the OP or watch the video. I have no idea what's going on but over the years I've learned that everyone in a video asking a Gárda for his oath is a loon.

As an aside, every time I see the word "oath", I see "OAuth". There's nothing funny about that. It's just what I see right now

h2005

danger mouse wrote: »

Sorry I cant see the funny side of all this. It is pretty sad that some one asks Police if they're acting under their Oath and they don't even know what the person is talking about.

I`ve listened to it and it sounds like he is saying oats to me so I can understand why they couldn`t understand him. The guy is a clown and the cops just ignored him. You can see even his mate thinks he`s a clown.

h2005

danger mouse wrote: »

So someone asking a police officer of the Irish state if they are acting under irish law and confirm that, is bull****, How is that wasting anyones time? accountability of all state organisations is surely the way to go?

Oh ffs you`re the guy with the camera aren`t you?

Pat Mustard

This is what's posted on the youtube page

Longford Garda unaware of "ATTESTATATION OATH"

danger mouse

mcmoustache wrote: »

Actually OP, you don't appear to be insane so I'll give you a bit more info on Freeman shíte. First google "Sovereign Citizen" and "Freeman of the land". Then read the Wikipedia link - it should be in the top 5.

It's a hilarious movement. The basic idea is that you don't have to follow the law if you don't recognise the state's jurisdiction over you. You follow common law and contract law but not statute law for some reason.

But, even better still, you get to make up which parts of contract law and common law that you follow. It's a bit like a catholic approach to the law. Essentially, you can choose not to recognise the state and still use its roads without its terms of use - motor/emissions tax and having a road-worthy vehicle. You can ignore the laws about drugs possession but insist on the statutes that mean you get social welfare.

It's all mad.

That's why, when I hear of some asṡhóle asking a member of AGS about his oath that I think he is most likely a loon/

Everything in bold writing you try to dismiss is a load of ****e. Each and every member of AGS swears an oath under common law. This is their oath of office. the video I posted on this thread was from a person who recorded AGS members that seemed to forget this fundamental Oath I'll post the Oath in plain text again for you to show its importance it has in todays Irish Law...

"I hereby solemnly and sincerely declare before God that—
-I will faithfully discharge the duties of a member of the Garda Síochána with fairness, integrity, regard for human rights, diligence and impartiality, upholding the Constitution and the laws and according equal respect to all people,
-while I continue to be a member, I will to the best of my skill and knowledge discharge all my duties according to law, and
-I do not belong to, and will not while I remain a member form, belong to or subscribe to, any political party or secret society whatsoever."
Section 16(2) allows the words "before God" to be omitted from the declaration at the request of the declarant.

Tom_Cruise

I think the law enforcement agents were so calm and collected as the people they were dealing with are mentally challenged in some way, and that the agents did not want to aggitate them.

scoobydoobie

Roqueandrolle. wrote: »

The best part of the video is when it cuts to the next one in the playlist and we see an Alsatian playing in the snow. I love Alsatians.

Did you watch video 3, its like an ad for why you should just not have one for the road.:)

mcmoustache

danger mouse wrote: »

So someone asking a police officer of the Irish state if they are acting under irish law and confirm that, is bull****, How is that wasting anyones time? accountability of all state organisations is surely the way to go?

Yes but the best time to debate that is not while arresting a loon/retard/drunk.

BOHtox

I presume this is from the next series of the Hardy Bucks

FanadMan

Why the hell didn't his decent (and sober) mate throw him off the balcony and do the rest of the country a favour? It's knobs like him that end up causing most of the problems, crying foul when they "think" they've been wronged and know the law better than the pros.

mcmoustache

danger mouse wrote: »

Everything in bold writing you try to dismiss is a load of ****e. Each and every member of AGS swears an oath under common law. This is their oath of office. the video I posted on this thread was from a person who recorded AGS members that seemed to forget this fundamental Oath I'll post the Oath in plain text again for you to show its importance it has in todays Irish Law...

That may be true but there's a catch...

The "Officer of the peace" must be wearing his hat - otherwise the oath doesn't count and the drunk can perform a citizen's arrest on the Gárda.

I didn't see the video but was the Gárda wearing his hat?

jimmycrackcorm

danger mouse wrote: »

So someone asking a police officer of the Irish state if they are acting under irish law and confirm that, is bull****, How is that wasting anyones time? accountability of all state organisations is surely the way to go?

II thought he was asking for the guards oats?

FanadMan

Roqueandrolle. wrote: »

The best part of the video is when it cuts to the next one in the playlist and we see an Alsatian playing in the snow. I love Alsatians.

I ended up posting a comment on that video instead of the "Oats" one Quick removal needed lol

Pat Mustard

danger mouse wrote: »

Everything in bold writing you try to dismiss is a load of ****e. Each and every member of AGS swears an oath under common law. This is their oath of office. the video I posted on this thread was from a person who recorded AGS members that seemed to forget this fundamental Oath I'll post the Oath in plain text again for you to show its importance it has in todays Irish Law...

You must mean the solemn declaration.

So maybe those Freeman fellas (or random idiots who copy them) should ask Gardai if they are making their solemn declaration again like they did all those years before, when they were appointed as members of An Garda Siochana.

Except that wouldn't make much sense, would it?

Ihatecuddles-old

I think Id rather be KPMG girl than this dipsh*t.

danger mouse

mcmoustache wrote: »

That may be true but there's a catch...

The "Officer of the peace" must be wearing his hat - otherwise the oath doesn't count and the drunk can perform a citizen's arrest on the Gárda.

I didn't see the video but was the Gárda wearing his hat?

Ha and sure if you need to have a ****e in a public place a Garda of the rank not lower then that of chief super nintendo (under mcmoustache magical made up trolling lunatic laws) offer up their standard issue hat for you to you poo into..

endacl

danger mouse wrote: »

Ha and sure if you need to have a ****e in a public place a Garda of the rank not lower then that of chief super nintendo (under mcmoustache magical made up trolling lunatic laws) offer up their standard issue hat for you to you poo into..

Jaysus! This thread is still going?!?

Boombastic

I know this one

Latticus scrattischus backtis, backtic scrattischus Latticus


Roughly translated as I'll scratch your back if you scratch mine...all the better if there is a free cup of coffee thrown in