edward snowden applies for asylum in Ireland

Jonny7 · 02-07-2013 08:44AM

gramar wrote: »

You seem to have read somewhere that I agree with what the US are doing. Buddy.

I'm simply believe that if you're an agent in the CIA with access to sensitive information as part of your job then you kept quiet about it.

If you go blabbing to the press revealing this information that then you're a traitor.

He hasn't revealed any information that puts anyone at risk, nor does it aid "the enemy".

To be honest the Obama admin should just scrap the whole program entirely.

Yes, detecting a domestic or foreign plot or attack may become harder and indeed prosecution may become more difficult - but the people in the US seem to want more transparency and less cloak-and-dagger.

Also, by abusing the program to spy on allies, the US government has not put itself in the best position.

Legally and technically he has broken the law, oaths and his contract - but that's the nature of whistle-blowing. Whether he is some egotistical self-serving douche like Assange with a personal vendetta - well that remains to be seen.

But for now the man is seen as somewhat of a hero and fair play to him.

Dravokivich · 02-07-2013 08:51AM

keeponhurling wrote: »

What's the story with his status in Russia, can he stay there indefinitely until he sorts out something else?

He's not technically in Russia.

snubbleste · 02-07-2013 08:53AM

edit: och

kraggy · 02-07-2013 08:54AM

vitani wrote: »

Brilliant. Sure, while he's waiting on an answer, let's stick him in Mosney and grant him less than €20 a week to live on. He'll be begging to go back to the US after a few years of that.

At least he'll get a free pram, which he can leave at the bus stop should he need to leave the country all of a sudden.

Sh1tbag OToole · 02-07-2013 09:08AM

zenno wrote: »

I do not agree.

EDIT: We already had a feeling this was going on, but all Snowden done was verify it with proof, now we know, as it takes it out from a conspiracy to a reality of truth.

if you posted about the US spying on everyone's communications on here a few short months ago they would have called you a conspiracy nutter, tinfoil hat wearer, etc

maxamillius · 02-07-2013 09:10AM

Let him in and then we will trade him for drumm!!

snubbleste · 02-07-2013 09:12AM

All your IPs are logged and you are now considered "against us" as hostile agents..

Gonzovision · 02-07-2013 09:15AM

He has withdrawn his application for asylum in Russia.

zenno · 02-07-2013 09:18AM

It looks like Poland is out...

RTE News...

Poland Foreign Minister Radoslaw Sikorski confirmed that an asylum request had been received from Mr Snowden, but asylum will not be granted.

Pherekydes · 02-07-2013 09:25AM

Corkbah wrote: »

so you dont think the FBI and other US Government agencies are spying on the general public ?

Hands up anyone who thought the NSA, the CIA and other intelligence agencies weren't spying on just about everyone before Mr Snowden rendered his invaluable public service?

Whistleblowers are all well and good, when they're telling the public about falsified health reports, or some such, but where does it end? Would you like your bank details plastered all over the papers in the national interest?

As a member of the NSA he would have signed a very strict Official Secrets act. It's treason, plain and simple.

He has two choices: go home and face the music, or live his life out in beautiful Russia. "Ve haf a nice dacha for you in central Siberia. Very nice, this time of year..."

hardCopy · 02-07-2013 09:28AM

I'd say the CIA would love to bump into him in Shannon Airport

bumper234 · 02-07-2013 09:29AM

Pherekydes wrote: »

Hands up anyone who thought the NSA, the CIA and other intelligence agencies weren't spying on just about everyone before Mr Snowden rendered his invaluable public service?

Whistleblowers are all well and good, when they're telling the public about falsified health reports, or some such, but where does it end? Would you like your bank details plastered all over the papers in the national interest?

As a member of the NSA he would have signed a very strict Official Secrets act. It's treason, plain and simple.

He has two choices: go home and face the music, or live his life out in beautiful Russia. "Ve haf a nice dacha for you in central Siberia. Very nice, this time of year..."

He would have signed a non disclosure agreement. Does this mean he should turn a blind eye to law breaking?

I signed a non disclosure for my job but if for one second i thought they were breaking the law then i wouldn't hesitate to report them to authorities. The law of the land supersedes any NDA that i may sign DUCY?

wp_rathead · 02-07-2013 09:30AM

He is about as much a traitor as Hugh Thompson Jr. was/is considered a traitor...

zenno · 02-07-2013 09:33AM

The American government are traitors to it's citizens.

In my opinion.

Tipsy McSwagger · 02-07-2013 09:35AM

He's more of a hero than any soldier returning from Afghanistan.

YFlyer · 02-07-2013 09:36AM

zenno wrote: »

It looks like Poland is out...

RTE News...

Poland Foreign Minister Radoslaw Sikorski confirmed that an asylum request had been received from Mr Snowden, but asylum will not be granted.

No surprise there. Albania be another country that would turn him down.

Zebra3 · 02-07-2013 09:37AM

YFlyer wrote: »

No surprise there. Albania be another country that would turn him down.

They could take him and exchange him for Sparrow. :pac:

Caliden · 02-07-2013 09:42AM

He did the right thing and companies like Facebook, Microsoft and Google know it was the right thing because they're embarrassed and trying to save face by revealing the types of requests they dealt with from the NSA.

For Paws · 02-07-2013 09:55AM

What's his big hurry ?

The film starring Tom Hanks, 'The Terminal' was based (loosely) on the 17 year stay of Mehran Karimi Nasseri in the Charles de Gaulle International Airport, Terminal I, Paris, France from 1988 to 2006.

SpaceTime · 02-07-2013 09:58AM

He would be nuts to come here for asylum! It's practically the 51st state in many respects.

Maybe it's a typo and he meant Iceland.

kevin65 · 02-07-2013 10:04AM

The guy is a traitor to his country. Let him rot in russia.

Gonzovision · 02-07-2013 10:11AM

Some people here are incredibly uninformed. If that's what a traitor is then the world needs more of them.

karma_ · 02-07-2013 10:12AM

kevin65 wrote: »

The guy is a traitor to his country. Let him rot in russia.

Must be nice to go through life with the mindset of a child.

drunkmonkey · 02-07-2013 10:13AM

We could give him asylum and then do a barter with the CIA to get Shergar back in exchange for him...

thread needs a poll

gobnaitolunacy · 02-07-2013 10:14AM

hardCopy wrote: »

I'd say the CIA would love to bump him off in Shannon Airport

FYP

Son Of A Vidic · 02-07-2013 10:17AM

realies wrote: »

edward snowden applies for asylum in Ireland

Surely he's having a laugh? Because he must be mixing us up with a real sovereign nation, that has got the spine to act independently.

biko · 02-07-2013 10:18AM

He should just burn his passport and go to Sweden.
95% of asylum seekers there doesn't have any documentation.

Micky Dolenz · 02-07-2013 10:19AM

He would be mad to go anywhere in Northern Europe. Crap weather, long winters.

South America would be my location of choice.Close enough to be lifted though but lovely weather.

kevin65 · 02-07-2013 10:26AM

karma_ wrote: »

Must be nice to go through life with the mindset of a child.

He betrayed his country, simple as.

bumper234 · 02-07-2013 10:30AM

kevin65 wrote: »

He betrayed his country, simple as.

NO!!!!

He educated his country on the ILLEGAL things his government was doing to his country....BIG difference!

edward snowden applies for asylum in Ireland

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