edward snowden applies for asylum in Ireland

Sunnyisland · 02-07-2013 07:22AM #1

http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/0702/460034-edward-snowden/

Fugitive ex-CIA analyst Edward Snowden has applied for asylum in 21 countries, including Ireland, according to the Wikileaks website.
The Department of Justice has said it can neither confirm not deny that Mr Snowden has applied for asylum in Ireland.
However, it noted that under Irish legislation, Ireland can only accept asylum applications from people who are already in the State.
Mr Snowden faces charges of espionage in the United States for disclosing details of covert internet and phone surveillance programmes by the government.
According to Wikileaks, he has applied for asylum in Austria, Bolivia, Brazil, China, Cuba, Finland, France, Germany, India, Italy, Ireland, the Netherlands, Nicaragua, Norway, Poland, the Russian Federation, Spain, Switzerland, Venezuela, Ecuador and Iceland.
A Russian foreign ministry official has confirmed the 30-year-old whistleblower, who is still in a Moscow airport hotel, has applied for political asylum in Russia.
He has accused US President Barack Obama of denying him his "basic right to asylum" and using citizenship as a weapon by revoking his passport.
In his first public statement since flying to Russia, published by Wikileaks, Mr Snowden accused the US of using the "old, bad tools of political aggression" and said he remains free to make new disclosures about US spying activity.
He also directly addressed the American public, saying the US administration was not afraid of him, but them.
He said it was afraid of "an informed, angry public demanding the constitutional government it was promised".

Well folks should we (the government)stand up and say yes, yes mr snowden you can stay in our beautiful country them pesky americans are snooping on us all and its not on ?

Imo he be better of trying his luck on the euro millions but then again even that has been won here

Ruudi_Mentari · 02-07-2013 07:24AM

Fugitive for your lovin'.

Sir Humphrey Appleby · 02-07-2013 07:26AM

Appartently he hasn't appled for asylum here, as under Irish law an asylum application can only be made by a person already in this country, which Mr Snowden isn't.
Nice publicity stunt though!

gramar · 02-07-2013 07:27AM

Not a hope he'll get it. I certainly wouldn't give this traitor the steam off my piss.

harney · 02-07-2013 07:28AM

They would sell him out within minutes of landing.

They love American investment too much.

Mr.Crinklewood · 02-07-2013 07:29AM

He should forget about claiming asylum anywhere, he should just say that he is stranded in Russia as he is Snowden.

Corkbah · 02-07-2013 07:32AM

gramar wrote: »

Not a hope he'll get it. I certainly wouldn't give this traitor the steam off my piss.

so you dont think the FBI and other US Government agencies are spying on the general public ?
or do you think that he told the world they were doing this because he wanted those who wanted to attack america to know that the FEDs are watching them....but the only way was to tell the entire world !!:rolleyes:

he does have to land here first before making an application but ...in saying that we'll pretty much leave anyone into the country so its unlikely he'd get stopped at the border and turned back !!

Karl Stein · 02-07-2013 07:34AM

realies wrote: »

Well folks should we (the government)stand up and say yes, yes mr snowden you can stay in our beautiful country

Absolutely we should.

Karl Stein · 02-07-2013 07:36AM

gramar wrote: »

I certainly wouldn't give this traitor the steam off my piss.

Traitor to what?

zenno · 02-07-2013 07:36AM

If Snowden landed in Ireland he would be extradited back to the U.S.

He would want to be mad to come here, imo.

But what about our 1 hundred thousand Welcomes ?

Well, céad míle fáilte Mr Snowden.

knucklehead6 · 02-07-2013 07:43AM

Give him asylum. Then a nice house just beside the runway at Shannon. If things happen down there, things happen.....

gramar · 02-07-2013 07:45AM

Cathal Cloch wrote: »

Traitor to what?

I'd say you know the anwser to that.

Corkbah wrote: »

so you dont think the FBI and other US Government agencies are spying on the general public ?
or do you think that he told the world they were doing this because he wanted those who wanted to attack america to know that the FEDs are watching them....but the only way was to tell the entire world !!:rolleyes:

Did I say that? The man is revealing sensitive secrets about his Goverment. He's a traitor whether you agree or not with what they are doing.

minidazzler · 02-07-2013 07:46AM

gramar wrote: »

Not a hope he'll get it. I certainly wouldn't give this traitor the steam off my piss.

Yeah, who is he a traitor to? In the US you swear to uphold the constitution a lot, and he was upholding his interpretation of the constitution for the good of the American people. As a living document the Constitution of the United States should be interpreted from a contemporary view with heed paid to what the Framers would do with the same information.

minidazzler · 02-07-2013 07:49AM

gramar wrote: »

I'd say you know the anwser to that.

Did I say that? The man is revealing sensitive secrets about his Goverment. He's a traitor whether you agree or not with what they are doing.

Sensitive secrets about the US Government tapping their own citizens, who, it just so happens have many rights granted to them under the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, including, but not limited to, Liberty.

The reason there are organised Militia's in the US is because the Government should be afraid of the people, not the other way around.

zenno · 02-07-2013 07:51AM

Unfortunately our ties with the U.S are so tight and also the amount of extreme pressure the Irish government would be under from the U.S would ultimately lead to the extradition of Snowden if he were to enter Ireland.

This government would hand him over on a silver platter with icing on top without doubt.

Merkin · 02-07-2013 07:56AM

Poor him if he gets stuck in Russia. If I was him I'd be polishing up on my Italian....

zenno · 02-07-2013 07:57AM

gramar wrote: »

I'd say you know the anwser to that.

Did I say that? The man is revealing sensitive secrets about his Goverment. He's a traitor whether you agree or not with what they are doing.

This is the EU buddy, and we will not tolerate spying from the U.S on EU citizens, so I say Snowden is a hero indeed.

Good job the halt on EU -US free trade deal is delayed until this garbage is sorted out. The US gov are not making any friends lately with the EU.

gramar · 02-07-2013 07:59AM

minidazzler wrote: »

Yeah, who is he a traitor to? In the US you swear to uphold the constitution a lot, and he was upholding his interpretation of the constitution for the good of the American people. As a living document the Constitution of the United States should be interpreted from a contemporary view with heed paid to what the Framers would do with the same information.

The the US government will say they were carrying out these activities for the good of the american people.

Ten of Swords · 02-07-2013 07:59AM

gramar wrote: »

Not a hope he'll get it. I certainly wouldn't give this traitor the steam off my piss.

Don't worry he's very unlikely to ask you for any.

Maybe the government could fly him here with Ryanair, he would land NEAR Ireland (Guantanamo)

minidazzler · 02-07-2013 08:01AM

gramar wrote: »

The the US government will say they were carrying out these activities for the good of the american people.

Yeah, they can say it all they want. But it's against the fundamentals of the US as a society. And spying on your own people as a whole "for their own good", is never a good enough reason.

gramar · 02-07-2013 08:06AM

zenno wrote: »

This is the EU buddy, and we will not tolerate spying from the U.S on EU citizens, so I say Snowden is a hero indeed.

You seem to have read somewhere that I agree with what the US are doing. Buddy.

I'm simply believe that if you're an agent in the CIA with access to sensitive information as part of your job then you kept quiet about it.

If you go blabbing to the press revealing this information that then you're a traitor.

zenno · 02-07-2013 08:13AM

gramar wrote: »

You seem to have read somewhere that I agree with what the US are doing. Buddy.

I'm simply believe that if you're an agent in the CIA with access to sensitive information as part of your job then you kept quiet about it.

If you go blabbing to the press revealing this information that then you're a traitor.

Not at all. Snowden done the right thing, not only for American citizens, but for us all, be thankful because the US government & military industrial complex is destroying America and it's citizens rights & freedoms.

gramar · 02-07-2013 08:15AM

zenno wrote: »

Not at all. Snowden done the right thing, not only for American citizens, but for us all, be thankful because the US government & military industrial complex is destroying America and it's citizens rights & freedoms.

I don't disagree with you about the US but he's still a traitor.

zenno · 02-07-2013 08:17AM

gramar wrote: »

I don't disagree with you about the US but he's still a traitor.

I do not agree.

EDIT: We already had a feeling this was going on, but all Snowden done was verify it with proof, now we know, as it takes it out from a conspiracy to a reality of truth.

bumper234 · 02-07-2013 08:18AM

gramar wrote: »

Not a hope he'll get it. I certainly wouldn't give this traitor the steam off my piss.

How is he a traitor?

bumper234 · 02-07-2013 08:21AM

gramar wrote: »

You seem to have read somewhere that I agree with what the US are doing. Buddy.

I'm simply believe that if you're an agent in the CIA with access to sensitive information as part of your job then you kept quiet about it.

If you go blabbing to the press revealing this information that then you're a traitor.

So if it turns out that the Anglo tapes were leaked by a member of AGS would you insta label him/her as a traitor too?

Zebra3 · 02-07-2013 08:21AM

gramar wrote: »

Not a hope he'll get it. I certainly wouldn't give this traitor the steam off my piss.

Yeah, how he dare he expose criminality by the US government. :rolleyes:

vitani · 02-07-2013 08:29AM

Brilliant. Sure, while he's waiting on an answer, let's stick him in Mosney and grant him less than €20 a week to live on. He'll be begging to go back to the US after a few years of that.

keeponhurling · 02-07-2013 08:31AM

I will never happen, but from an Irish point of view, nothing good would come from him coming here.

keeponhurling · 02-07-2013 08:31AM

What's the story with his status in Russia, can he stay there indefinitely until he sorts out something else?

guttenberg · 02-07-2013 08:36AM

keeponhurling wrote: »

What's the story with his status in Russia, can he stay there indefinitely until he sorts out something else?

Go watch the film The Terminal, Tom Hanks is in and you'll see just how long he can stay there!

edward snowden applies for asylum in Ireland

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