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The Anglo Irish Tapes

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  • #1772
    RiverOfLove
    Closed Accounts Posts: 876 ✭✭✭RiverOfLove


    Worztron wrote: »

    Thanks for this. I was going to click on it to have a listen but I don't know if I have the strength at all. This is making me sick to the very pits of my stomach. The grand scale banking fraud and the new government we elected in 2011 following in FFs footsteps. They were elected into government for change and reform and help us and all they're doing is helping themselves. I understand that change and reforms isn't going to happen overnight but they've done feck all in the way of leading like perhaps leading by example in relation to pay. They are supposed to care for this country but all they do is care for themselves which is evident in many ways.


  • #1773
    RiverOfLove
    Closed Accounts Posts: 876 ✭✭✭RiverOfLove


    tayto lover wrote: »
    There will be no trial for Drumm or his friends. Of that I have no doubt.
    The Govt are afraid of what they might disclose in court.

    If there were going to be a case(s) they would have happened already.

    Don't hold your breath people, Court is only for little men.

    This.

    Nearly five years has passed since the banks crashed and about two and a half years since the new government cane inti power. It's been far too long now and things are being dressed up saying - the gardas are doing their work, there will be a trial.

    It's god damn all fcuking cock. Stories spun to keep the public as quite as possible or happy.

    The rest of those tapes need releasing now especially the one linking a top civil servant.

    'they'll damage any possible trial' is spun.

    Where's the trial. It's been five years now and there is nothing.


  • #1774
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    Jumboman wrote: »
    If that did happen it might show the world that Irish people are fighting back.

    No it would just show that we have learned nothing over the last 50 years.


  • #1775
    Almaviva
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,490 ✭✭✭Almaviva


    RiverOfLove wrote: »
    the new government we elected in 2011 following in FFs footsteps. They were elected into government for change and reform and help us and all they're doing is helping themselves. all they do is care for themselves which is evident in many ways.

    The govt does care for you, and is trying its best. Like the last one. The problem is that that best is not very good. Its quite bad even.

    Where does this idea that changing a government will solve all the problems come from? The Irish keep falling into the same trap of thinking if they remove one party and put in another all will be well. Apart from the nonsense of the cap-wearing clowns, single issue gombeens, pink shirted cowboys, and IRA men trying to look useful after the elimination of their raison d'etre has made them redundant, that much of Ireland seems happy to elect as their representatives, all the rest of the TDs, regardless of party, are identical.

    That there is no change should not shock you.


  • #1776
    donegal_road
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,281 ✭✭✭donegal_road


    from today's Irish Times:
    The bestselling quality daily, the Süddeutsche Zeitung, carried a lengthy news feature about Ireland under the headline “Conned”.
    It suggested Ireland’s bankers were not the only ones worthy of Angela Merkel’s contempt.

    Natural resources

    “They are just one part of an elite that shamelessly exploits the island,” it wrote, drawing a line from the Anglo tapes to questionable government decision’s in Ireland’s recent past.
    It looks critically at the long-term financial cost of the decision to allow non-Irish fishing boats into Irish territorial waters in exchange for EU subsidies.
    However, most attention is devoted to the 1987 law change abolishing the State’s 50 per cent stake in oil finds.
    With this law change then energy minister Ray Burke “sold off the island’s future”, it wrote.
    “The oil off the Irish coast could be the way out of [its] misery . . . if former energy minister Ray Burke hadn’t changed the law . . . in 1987 to give oil companies 100 per cent of their find with no licence fees,” the newspaper wrote. “Bertie Ahern . . . as finance minister cut the taxes for oil companies in 1992 to 25 per cent.”
    The report details the protests around the country arising from oil exploration, and cites the successful protest against oil rigs off the Dalkey coast as an indication of a new protest culture in the country.


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  • #1777
    pharmaton
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,192 ✭✭✭pharmaton


    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    Am I the only person who thinks these tapes might be staged?

    funnily enough that was my first thought too.


  • #1778
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    pharmaton wrote: »
    funnily enough that was my first thought too.

    Staged by whom? and to what cause?


  • #1779
    AnOrdinaryJoe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 280 ✭✭AnOrdinaryJoe


    tayto lover wrote: »
    There will be no trial for Drumm or his friends. Of that I have no doubt.
    The Govt are afraid of what they might disclose in court.

    If there were going to be a case(s) they would have happened already.

    Don't hold your breath people, Court is only for little men.

    I said it before...... why do you think so many of these cretins end up riding off into the sun with huge pension pay offs. Does anyone actually think it was for the sterling job they did ? Methinks it might be more to do with buying their silence. Just a thought !


  • #1780
    Jumboman
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,292 ✭✭✭Jumboman


    bumper234 wrote: »
    No it would just show that we have learned nothing over the last 50 years.


    It would play well in Irish America the IRA are seen as heros over there.

    I'm not a fan of the IRA or any of its off shoots but if they managed to do away with some banksters I think it would be a public service.


  • #1781
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    Jumboman wrote: »
    It would play well in Irish America the IRA are seen as heros over there.

    I'm not a fan of the IRA or any of its off shoots but if they managed to do away with some banksters I think it would be a public service.

    No they are seen for what they are.... terrorists. Since 9-11 the whole American psyche has changed towards terrorist organizations.


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  • #1782
    Noreen1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,654 ✭✭✭Noreen1


    donegal_road wrote: »
    from today's Irish Times:

    It looks like we have at least one German friend!:D


  • #1783
    pharmaton
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,192 ✭✭✭pharmaton


    bumper234 wrote: »
    Staged by whom? and to what cause?
    I haven't a bogs notion, or to what end. I'm not a conspiracy theorist but it's just something that struck me when I heard them first. :confused:
    It's possibly just the language used and the manner of the conversations, when I heard the first ones I thought it was an interview, the way the questions were poised and then there was this one which alluded to recording the calls for the craic, it made it sound like a set up from the outset.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMfvSGoq02Y


  • #1784
    Jumboman
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,292 ✭✭✭Jumboman


    bumper234 wrote: »
    No they are seen for what they are.... terrorists. Since 9-11 the whole American psyche has changed towards terrorist organizations.


    So whats your solution ? just let the law deal with the banksters ?


  • #1785
    AnOrdinaryJoe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 280 ✭✭AnOrdinaryJoe


    I need to make some money..... I'm going to write 'erotic' books ala our Minister for Justice...... he seems to do ok.

    My first one will be about a top banker who 'gently he slips his colleagues slip off, She looking ravishing...... in fact she looked as if she needed ravished, her silhouette in the diminishing light, visible against the backdrop of the frosted glass with the bank logo on it.'

    The sight of the two sexist things he had ever known..... together...... his banksterhoood stiffened'

    Yes..... he whispered to himself, repeating what he thought...... ''she needs ravished.....and I know just the bankster to do it'.

    'Instantly his pinstripe trousers drooped to the floor and he stood in his M & S boxers, the pressure on the fabric intensely more than anything any taxpayer and austerity benefitter had ever experienced.'

    ' ''Subordinate'' he said in a breathy voice...... he said ''oi... subordinate.......''

    'Her head tilted to the side...... their eyes met...... so, said the bankster.... you say you haven't eaten in 3 days, nothing has passed your lips for days due to the effects of austerity...... well get your nashers round that......'


    I would appreciate any constructive comments i.e. have I got it..... do you think I could challenge Shatter ?


  • #1786
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    Jumboman wrote: »
    So whats your solution ? just let the law deal with the banksters ?

    My ideal solution would be to set this country on fire and not stop until every one of the ***** was dead or jailed for life. Unfortunately since we can't even get a few people to protest on any given day this won't happen.

    Look at France, Greece, Italy Egypt...look how they get results. Their governments are **** scared of the people because they know if they **** up the people will rise in their MILLIONS.

    Now look at Ireland.:rolleyes:


  • #1787
    Valetta
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,611 ✭✭✭Valetta


    bumper234 wrote: »
    My ideal solution would be to set this country on fire and not stop until every one of the ***** was dead or jailed for life. Unfortunately since we can't even get a few people to protest on any given day this won't happen.

    Look at France, Greece, Italy Egypt...look how they get results. Their governments are **** scared of the people because they know if they **** up the people will rise in their MILLIONS.

    Now look at Ireland.:rolleyes:

    I don't understand.

    What results have any of those countries got?


  • #1788
    Kidchameleon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Kidchameleon


    Ash.J.Williams wrote: »
    elaborate please.....who gains form that and why?

    hmm ive no idea really. But the way they are talking, they dont sound like top bankers. Also they sound like fair city, tryin their hardest to act but failing. It just sounds odd to me


  • #1789
    AnOrdinaryJoe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 280 ✭✭AnOrdinaryJoe


    Jumboman wrote: »
    So whats your solution ? just let the law deal with the banksters ?

    'the law', whatever that is these days in Ireland (I don't mean the one that does people for not having the money to pay their tv licences, etc...... not that one)....... no I mean the law which applies to the 'elite'..... that one..... WILL NOT deal with the banksters. There is nothing more sure than that.


  • #1790
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    Valetta wrote: »
    I don't understand.

    What results have any of those countries got?


    It's about getting out there and having your voice heard! Jesus this is typical Irish attitude "Oh nothing happens so i won't bother" FFS nothing happens BECAUSE you don't bother!


  • #1791
    RiverOfLove
    Closed Accounts Posts: 876 ✭✭✭RiverOfLove


    AnOrdinaryJoe wrote: »
    I need to make some money..... I'm going to write 'erotic' books ala our Minister for Justice...... he seems to do ok.

    My first one will be about a top banker who 'gently he slips his colleagues slip off, She looking ravishing...... in fact she looked as if she needed ravished, her silhouette in the diminishing light, visible against the backdrop of the frosted glass with the bank logo on it.'

    The sight of the two sexist things he had ever known..... together...... his banksterhoood stiffened'

    Yes..... he whispered to himself, repeating what he thought...... ''she needs ravished.....and I know just the bankster to do it'.

    'Instantly his pinstripe trousers drooped to the floor and he stood in his M & S boxers, the pressure on the fabric intensely more than anything any taxpayer and austerity benefitter had ever experienced.'

    ' ''Subordinate'' he said in a breathy voice...... he said ''oi... subordinate.......''

    'Her head tilted to the side...... their eyes met...... so, said the bankster.... you say you haven't eaten in 3 days, nothing has passed your lips for days due to the effects of austerity...... well get your nashers round that......'


    I would appreciate any constructive comments i.e. have I got it..... do you think I could challenge Shatter ?

    This is so funny.

    What kind off book did Alan Shatter write.

    50 shades of sh1te?


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  • #1792
    Kidchameleon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Kidchameleon


    Noreen1 wrote: »
    If by "staged" you mean released with a motive other than just putting the information in the public domain, then, no, you're not the only one.

    I know these guys are retarded n all but theres no way they are so stupid as to have these conversations on a line thats being recorded


  • #1793
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    I know these guys are retarded n all but theres no way they are so stupid as to have these conversations on a line thats being recorded

    not retarded....ARROGANT!!!!!!:rolleyes:


  • #1794
    pharmaton
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,192 ✭✭✭pharmaton


    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    hmm ive no idea really. But the way they are talking, they dont sound like top bankers. Also they sound like fair city, tryin their hardest to act but failing. It just sounds odd to me
    na, I think they actually speak like that up in teh big shmoke ;)

    I could imagine it being a case where one was attempting to set the other up with an intent to blackmail or discredit (albeit not on a national scale but a smaller internal office politics kind of way) further down the line though. (but theres more than what they bargained for)


  • #1795
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    pharmaton wrote: »
    na, I think they actually speak like that up in teh big shmoke ;)

    I could imagine it being a case where one was attempting to set the other up with an intent to blackmail or discredit (albeit not on a national scale but a smaller internal office politics kind of way) further down the line though. (but they got more than they bargained for)

    You do realise that neither of these actually recorded them right? That these calls were automatically recorded by the security system in place in the bank?


  • #1796
    pharmaton
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,192 ✭✭✭pharmaton


    bumper234 wrote: »
    You do realise that neither of these actually recorded them right? That these calls were automatically recorded by the security system in place in the bank?
    obviously


  • #1797
    Ash.J.Williams
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,808 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    pharmaton wrote: »
    I haven't a bogs notion, or to what end. I'm not a conspiracy theorist but it's just something that struck me when I heard them first. :confused:
    It's possibly just the language used and the manner of the conversations, when I heard the first ones I thought it was an interview, the way the questions were poised and then there was this one which alluded to recording the calls for the craic, it made it sound like a set up from the outset.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMfvSGoq02Y
    the latest one does sound a bit staged


  • #1798
    GalwayGuy2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,269 ✭✭✭GalwayGuy2


    Originally Posted by AnOrdinaryJoe viewpost.gif
    I need to make some money..... I'm going to write 'erotic' books ala our Minister for Justice...... he seems to do ok.

    My first one will be about a top banker who 'gently he slips his colleagues slip off, She looking ravishing...... in fact she looked as if she needed ravished, her silhouette in the diminishing light, visible against the backdrop of the frosted glass with the bank logo on it.'

    The sight of the two sexist things he had ever known..... together...... his banksterhoood stiffened'

    Yes..... he whispered to himself, repeating what he thought...... ''she needs ravished.....and I know just the bankster to do it'.

    'Instantly his pinstripe trousers drooped to the floor and he stood in his M & S boxers, the pressure on the fabric intensely more than anything any taxpayer and austerity benefitter had ever experienced.'

    ' ''Subordinate'' he said in a breathy voice...... he said ''oi... subordinate.......''

    'Her head tilted to the side...... their eyes met...... so, said the bankster.... you say you haven't eaten in 3 days, nothing has passed your lips for days due to the effects of austerity...... well get your nashers round that......'


    I would appreciate any constructive comments i.e. have I got it..... do you think I could challenge Shatter ?

    "Bend over for Bertie", he cracked the whip across his palm and Cowen's bottom shivered in anticipation.


  • #1799
    RiverOfLove
    Closed Accounts Posts: 876 ✭✭✭RiverOfLove


    GalwayGuy2 wrote: »
    "Bend over for Bertie", he cracked the whip across his palm and Cowen's bottom shivered in anticipation.
    This is so funny.


  • #1800
    Valetta
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,611 ✭✭✭Valetta


    bumper234 wrote: »
    It's about getting out there and having your voice heard! Jesus this is typical Irish attitude "Oh nothing happens so i won't bother" FFS nothing happens BECAUSE you don't bother!

    Hold on a second. I asked what results those countries got.

    Still waiting on an answer.


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  • #1801
    Carnegie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 103 ✭✭Carnegie


    AnOrdinaryJoe wrote: »
    'Her head tilted to the side...... their eyes met...... so, said the bankster.... you say you haven't eaten in 3 days, nothing has passed your lips for days due to the effects of austerity...... well get your nashers round that......'


    I would appreciate any constructive comments i.e. have I got it..... do you think I could challenge Shatter ?

    Nashers sounds kinda painful. How about "get your laughing gear round my single barrel pump action yoghurt rifle"


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