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Did the celtic tiger kill ireland

  • 25-06-2013 04:48PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 375 ✭✭


    Was driving around rural ireland and its not what i remember growing up. All these rural pubs closed down and nots a punter insight. Been round a few towns and ive seen full streets where all the shops are empty and calling to old friends houses to be told that they are in the other part of the world and wont be returning anytime soon.

    I remember a time where you could go to the pub, have a pint or 2 and drive home, now any pub i find and enter, they are all empty. Not like i used to remember them in the last recession. Trying to find a pub where you can sit down, have a few pints, a cig and listen to a few boys playing away at our own traditional music is near impossible.

    Most people i see on a daily basis are all unhappy and are popping anti-depressents like theyre sweeties thinking their problems are all going to disappear. Homes boarded up, empty ghost estates all over the country, houses people cant afford and the suicide side rate is through the roof.

    WHAT THE FCUK HAPPENED TO THE IRELAND I USED TO LOVE!!


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,119 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    No.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 17,160 Mod ✭✭✭✭cherryghost


    Ireland's not dead. Ireland was never a person. The people enclosed in this country are fine though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,496 ✭✭✭Boombastic


    I agree with the OP. Even in the recession in the 80's, we were happy and had the craic.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,065 ✭✭✭leonidas83


    yoloc wrote: »
    Was driving around rural ireland and its not what i remember growing up. All these rural pubs closed down and nots a punter insight. Been round a few towns and ive seen full streets where all the shops are empty and calling to old friends houses to be told that they are in the other part of the world and wont be returning anytime soon.

    I remember a time where you could go to the pub, have a pint or 2 and drive home, now any pub i find and enter, they are all empty. Not like i used to remember them in the last recession. Trying to find a pub where you can sit down, have a few pints, a cig and listen to a few boys playing away at our own traditional music is near impossible.

    Most people i see on a daily basis are all unhappy and are popping anti-depressents like theyre sweeties thinking their problems are all going to disappear. Homes boarded up, empty ghost estates all over the country, houses people cant afford and the suicide side rate is through the roof.

    WHAT THE FCUK HAPPENED TO THE IRELAND I USED TO LOVE!!

    :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 375 ✭✭yoloc


    Ireland's not dead. Ireland was never a person. The people enclosed in this country are fine though.

    Well it feels's as if someone has died!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,663 ✭✭✭Cork24


    Their was Never a Tiger.

    Just Bankers giving out X amount of money that the Bank never had in the first place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,245 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    yoloc wrote: »
    Was driving around rural ireland and its not what i remember growing up. All these rural pubs closed down and nots a punter insight. Been round a few towns and ive seen full streets where all the shops are empty and calling to old friends houses to be told that they are in the other part of the world and wont be returning anytime soon.

    I remember a time where you could go to the pub, have a pint or 2 and drive home, now any pub i find and enter, they are all empty. Not like i used to remember them in the last recession. Trying to find a pub where you can sit down, have a few pints, a cig and listen to a few boys playing away at our own traditional music is near impossible.

    WHAT THE FCUK HAPPENED TO THE IRELAND I USED TO LOVE!!

    People stopped drinking at 11 in the morning?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 288 ✭✭daddyorchips


    You ruined it with your driving and talking and what not


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,496 ✭✭✭Boombastic


    leonidas83 wrote: »
    :mad:

    :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,154 ✭✭✭Rented Mule


    Cork24 wrote: »
    Their was Never a Tiger.

    Just Bankers giving out X amount of money that the Bank never had in the first place.


    That's not true at all.

    The Tiger died on 2001/2002. That's when the housing market ponzi scheme started to take off.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 980 ✭✭✭Freddy Smelly


    yoloc wrote: »
    Was driving around rural ireland and its not what i remember growing up. All these rural pubs closed down and nots a punter insight. Been round a few towns and ive seen full streets where all the shops are empty and calling to old friends houses to be told that they are in the other part of the world and wont be returning anytime soon.

    I remember a time where you could go to the pub, have a pint or 2 and drive home, now any pub i find and enter, they are all empty. Not like i used to remember them in the last recession. Trying to find a pub where you can sit down, have a few pints, a cig and listen to a few boys playing away at our own traditional music is near impossible.

    Most people i see on a daily basis are all unhappy and are popping anti-depressents like theyre sweeties thinking their problems are all going to disappear. Homes boarded up, empty ghost estates all over the country, houses people cant afford and the suicide side rate is through the roof.

    WHAT THE FCUK HAPPENED TO THE IRELAND I USED TO LOVE!!

    bertie & cowen sold it to germany

    kenny and gilmore gift wrapped it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    Na, the country's not dead, everything just has to be readjusted to a more sustainable level.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,119 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    yoloc wrote: »
    WHAT THE FCUK HAPPENED TO THE IRELAND I USED TO LOVE!!
    Is that you Peig?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 375 ✭✭yoloc


    leonidas83 wrote: »
    :mad:

    Nothing wrong with having a pint or 2 and driving. Its when silly people take it to far and end up with far to much in them, thats when the real problems occur. I remember reading the stats a few years back and most the accidents in drink driving where all caused by people well over the legal limit. not from people who were just over. I could even drink 5 pints and still manage to drive home normal but its something i would do now because its against the law and id lose my license.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,065 ✭✭✭leonidas83


    ;)
    Boombastic wrote: »
    :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,245 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    yoloc wrote: »
    Nothing wrong with having a pint or 2 and driving. Its when silly people take it to far and end up with far to much in them, thats when the real problems occur. I remember reading the stats a few years back and most the accidents in drink driving where all caused by people well over the legal limit. not from people who were just over. I could even drink 5 pints and still manage to drive home normal but its something i would do now because its against the law and id lose my license.

    Congratulations, your initially dull thread will now mushroom to 40 pages.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,424 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    The Celtic Tiger was a myth of legendary proportions, much like our stories of Tir Na Nog. It didn't kill Ireland. A story or a sales pitch isn't able to do that. What you've indicated in your OP is a reflection of multiple issues, but not with one cause, such as the Celtic Tiger.

    Put down your few pints and take a proper reflection of what you are talking about, focusing it on 1 intangible entity is not the answer. And you won't find one until you do.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    Boombastic wrote: »
    I agree with the OP. Even in the recession in the 80's, we were happy and had the craic.

    I'm happy and having the craic now. Being misreable doesn't solve anything.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 375 ✭✭yoloc


    bertie & cowen sold it to germany

    kenny and gilmore gift wrapped it

    :pac::pac::pac::D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,245 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 375 ✭✭yoloc


    I'm happy and having the craic now. Being misreable doesn't solve anything.

    Yes but what about the pub scene that ireland was always well fond off. Ive had many a craic in the pub but now when you enter, theres no one there and as for our music, well that has disappeared with the people aswell :(.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    Boombastic wrote: »
    I agree with the OP. Even in the recession in the 80's, we were happy and had the craic.

    And the heroin epidemic in the inner cities, the unemployment levels, people leaving the country every week, crap and corrupt politicians and the sectarian violence in the north.

    The 80s. Brrr. Who'd ever want that kind of thing again?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    yoloc wrote: »
    Yes but what about the pub scene that ireland was always well fond off. Ive had many a craic in the pub but now when you enter, theres no one there and as for our music, well that has disappeared with the people aswell :(.

    Do you only visit the one pub, so? If anything, I was under the impression that the continuing revival of traditional ( I presume that's what you mean by "our") music has blossomed at home and is more global than ever.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,305 ✭✭✭April O Neill


    yoloc wrote: »
    Yes but what about the pub scene that ireland was always well fond off. Ive had many a craic in the pub but now when you enter, theres no one there and as for our music, well that has disappeared with the people aswell :(.

    Pubs were a lot cheaper back in the 80s and 90s - this is probably the biggest factor.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    I learnt a new word there recently: Negaholic. I think Ireland has gone from a country of problem drinkers to a nation of negaholics. They really should have switched over to ecstasy. Way more fun…


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 879 ✭✭✭risteard7


    Yes it opened the floodgates for immigration which in my opinion has ruined Irish culture. That's my opinion and i don't care what anyone says.

    Right i'm ready for the racist accusations and the swan jokes......


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,793 ✭✭✭Red Kev


    Boombastic wrote: »
    I agree with the OP. Even in the recession in the 80's, we were happy and had the craic.

    The 80's were sh1te in Ireland, went to Germany in early 1989 and it was like different planet. far more job and education opportunities here these days, far more people have disposable income, and at least these days half the women aren't all mad out to keep their virginity till their wedding night! :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    Pubs were a lot cheaper back in the 80s and 90s - this is probably the biggest factor.

    Relative to what people earned back then they were roughly the same price as they are today.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    risteard7 wrote: »
    Yes it opened the floodgates for immigration which in my opinion has ruined Irish culture. That's my opinion and i don't care what anyone says.

    Right i'm ready for the racist accusations and the swan jokes......

    Can you bullet point it for me how the immigrants are killing Irish culture because as far as I can see it's alive and well in all its aran-jumpered splendour.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    Red Kev wrote: »
    The 80's were sh1te in Ireland

    Yeah, I don't get why people think the 80's in Ireland was some oasis of gaiety and good living. It were proper rubbish with added sh¡t clothes and hairstyles.


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