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Why don't women have full bush anymore?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,075 ✭✭✭Wattle


    I like chomping down on an ould gee sandwich. The pubes are part of the eating experience like chips with a kebab :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭starling


    Boofle wrote: »
    Oh yes I would probably get my legs lasered also- the bliss of never having to shave them again :P - but I was told by a beautician that it is most effective on dark hair and mine is very fair so that's a no-go. I bet your arm hair is fine - I have a friend who is convinced hers is atrocious and mixes up some hair lightening cream in a little dish and puts it on her forearms to turn the hairs blonde - even though she has black hair and dark colouring. The hair on her arms really bothers her but I really cant see the problem with it!!

    See, if my leg hair was fair I'd probably leave most of it alone! Mine is quite dark and strong thanks to genetics and pcos so I prefer to remove it. I think there is an alternative to laser, for people with fairer hair (ipl or something?) idk how effective it is though.
    Haha I bleached my arm hair a couple of times when I was younger, it took AGES, no joke, I had to do one section at a time, it took hours :eek: then I thought "Wait, why am I doing this? I've better things to do with my time....":) The hair is not even dark, my arms did look nice when I had bleached it but it wasn't worth the effort:)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭EyeSight


    i don't enjoy a full bush.


  • Registered Users Posts: 105 ✭✭mcrods


    starling wrote: »
    See, if my leg hair was fair I'd probably leave most of it alone! Mine is quite dark and strong thanks to genetics and pcos so I prefer to remove it. I think there is an alternative to laser, for people with fairer hair (ipl or something?) idk how effective it is though.
    Haha I bleached my arm hair a couple of times when I was younger, it took AGES, no joke, I had to do one section at a time, it took hours :eek: then I thought "Wait, why am I doing this? I've better things to do with my time....":) The hair is not even dark, my arms did look nice when I had bleached it but it wasn't worth the effort:)

    Then if your arm hair is light and blonde etc your pubic hair would be. Lighter the area less noticed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭starling


    mcrods wrote: »
    Good points. I've personally never trimmed anywhere. I've a woman and she doesn't care. She says it manly but she never says shave. Only thing she sometimes says is my area below the genitals is is getting thick.

    Hm well if you do decide to shave, use a mirror, and for Christs sake take it slowly!;) The perineal area is not a nice place to have itchy regrowth, so I wouldn't really recommend shaving there unless you're into discomfort:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭starling


    mcrods wrote: »
    Then if your arm hair is light and blonde etc your pubic hair would be. Lighter the area less noticed

    Nah, pubic hair an arm hair are different. The arm hair is kind of light brown? Looks darker in some light, looks blonde in other light.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭starling


    Wattle wrote: »
    I like chomping down on an ould gee sandwich. The pubes are part of the eating experience like chips with a kebab :)

    You're quite a romantic :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 105 ✭✭mcrods


    starling wrote: »
    Nah, pubic hair an arm hair are different. The arm hair is kind of light brown? Looks darker in some light, looks blonde in other light.

    True I guess.... Just looked at mind your right lol


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,635 ✭✭✭Pumpkinseeds


    I'd never really bother with my arm hair. It's light and really doesn't bother me. I'm allergic to wax and veet so I shave. I get my eyebrows and any other facial areas that need it threaded. I think a lot of this obsession with hair removal is silly to be honest. It started as a fashion fad then escalated from a pubic wax to laser hair removal. Ironically enough the trend is now for ridiculous HD brows that you can see coming at you 100 feet away:rolleyes:

    People should just do what they feel comfortable with. Years ago I had to have ovarian cysts removed and had to have the pubic area completely shaved. I asked my husband what he thought of it and he said it was freaky and he didn't like it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,628 ✭✭✭Femme_Fatale


    Exactly, a lot of the arguments against full bush are spurious.

    It kinda reminds me of people using hygiene as a reason for circumcision. (Obvs a more serious issue than waxing)

    Like I said, nothing against whatever people wanna do with their hair down there, just some of the reasons have no basis in reality.
    Meh, I've found it uncomfortable on the occasions that I've let it get a bit overgrown. Kinda sore tbh and I don't feel as clean and fresh as I'd like to, despite showering daily. Maybe my skin in the area is particularly sensitive. I mostly just trim too, only shaving the lighter hair that's more difficult to trim. I'm not into the baldy stuff at all.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 105 ✭✭mcrods


    Meh, I've found it uncomfortable on the occasions that I've let it get a bit overgrown. Kinda sore tbh and I don't feel as clean and fresh as I'd like to, despite showering daily. Maybe my skin in the area is particularly sensitive. I mostly just trim too, only shaving the lighter hair that's more difficult to trim. I'm not into the baldy stuff at all.

    How is it uncomfortable though? Never hurts me


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,628 ✭✭✭Femme_Fatale


    Pulls the skin.


  • Registered Users Posts: 105 ✭✭mcrods


    Pulls the skin.

    True I guess for a woman!


  • Registered Users Posts: 105 ✭✭mcrods


    starling wrote: »
    Hm well if you do decide to shave, use a mirror, and for Christs sake take it slowly!;) The perineal area is not a nice place to have itchy regrowth, so I wouldn't really recommend shaving there unless you're into discomfort:(

    Ouch I couldn't imagine shaving perineal area!!!! How could I start lol


  • Registered Users Posts: 591 ✭✭✭spankysue


    I started shaving mine years ago and I'd never go back to bush again, the oul axe wound in a gorilla's back isn't the look for me :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,068 ✭✭✭Nesta99


    I work in operating theatres and for what its worth on a gyne list in my experience tis about 40:40 shaved or unshaved with the rest 'styled'. Been a couple of woaha moments with few zz top tributes! As for hygiene makes little difference either way though general consensus is that unshaved keeps the ph and bacteria balance better, reducing things like thrush, folliculitis, sweat absorbtion so less odour believe it or not. Tis a protective barrier from erm injury if things become a bit frantic in the heat of things. But everyone to their own as long as the odd shower is taken! Its when somone hasnt bathed shaven or unshaven and arriving in for an op that things can be a bit nasty (face masks are much appreciated then!!!).


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,145 ✭✭✭LETHAL LADY


    I have no idea being a virgin and all, but I would imagine that there is nothing worse than a pube or pubes causing friction burns or welts during intercourse.:eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭starling


    I have no idea being a virgin and all, but I would imagine that there is nothing worse than a pube or pubes causing friction burns or welts during intercourse.:eek:

    Pubes don't cause friction burns...stubble can, though. And folliculitis is way worse than that, trust me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,543 ✭✭✭con___manx1


    Nesta99 wrote: »
    I work in operating theatres and for what its worth on a gyne list in my experience tis about 40:40 shaved or unshaved with the rest 'styled'. Been a couple of woaha moments with few zz top tributes! As for hygiene makes little difference either way though general consensus is that unshaved keeps the ph and bacteria balance better, reducing things like thrush, folliculitis, sweat absorbtion so less odour believe it or not. Tis a protective barrier from erm injury if things become a bit frantic in the heat of things. But everyone to their own as long as the odd shower is taken! Its when somone hasnt bathed shaven or unshaven and arriving in for an op that things can be a bit nasty (face masks are much appreciated then!!!).

    i think you have seen more bush than anyone on this thread so ill take your word for it lol. a friend of mine styles bushes in a beauty salon. one style is called the bermuda triangle.its says on the brochure he will get lost for hours and hours lol.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,068 ✭✭✭Nesta99


    I have no idea being a virgin and all, but I would imagine that there is nothing worse than a pube or pubes causing friction burns or welts during intercourse.:eek:

    Ach no worse than a bit of beard rash on a baldy one - honourable battle scars:p


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,145 ✭✭✭LETHAL LADY


    starling wrote: »
    Pubes don't cause friction burns...stubble can, though. And folliculitis is way worse than that, trust me.

    Would the fuller bush not catch on the penis during penetration and therefore get pushed inside the vagina and thus cause friction burns internally?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,068 ✭✭✭Nesta99


    Would the fuller bush not catch on the penis during penetration and therefore get pushed inside the vagina and thus cause friction burns internally?

    Nope! not with secretions/lube - as said stubble is the enemy! well in my experience and the itch growing back for the missus. Was a nice surprise at the time but deemed not worth the hassle so once off - and shes a redhead and proud of it!!:D


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Would the fuller bush not catch on the penis during penetration and therefore get pushed inside the vagina and thus cause friction burns internally?

    I think it would have to be very long indeed for that to happen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,829 ✭✭✭Nemeses


    I believe the ladies have no bush as its bikini time!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,320 ✭✭✭roast


    Not too bothered, I'll lob it in anyway.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭starling


    Would the fuller bush not catch on the penis during penetration and therefore get pushed inside the vagina and thus cause friction burns internally?

    Nope. For a demonstration of the principle, try inserting your finger into your vagina and you'll get an idea of the mechanics of it and see what I mean:)
    Seriously I'm not being a smart@rse here. Besides is fun:D


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Its all to do with fashion.

    What is strange is novel, or something like that.

    In sexual behaviour something out side the norm acquires an eroticism, so now that shaving/waxing of public hair has almost become normalised it has lost a lot of its eroticism and the eroticism has transfered to having full pubic hair, primely becausing having un tended pubic hair is almost uncommon.

    It is the same way something forbidden can become very erotic.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,612 ✭✭✭Lelantos


    starling wrote: »
    Nope. For a demonstration of the principle, try inserting your finger into your vagina and you'll get an idea of the mechanics of it and see what I mean:)
    Seriously I'm not being a smart@rse here. Besides is fun:D

    Hmmm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭starling


    Lelantos wrote: »
    Hmmm

    Lmao :)
    mariaalice wrote: »
    Its all to do with fashion.

    What is strange is novel, or something like that.

    In sexual behaviour something out side the norm acquires an eroticism, so now that shaving/waxing of public hair has almost become normalised it has lost a lot of its eroticism and the eroticism has transfered to having full pubic hair, primely becausing having un tended pubic hair is almost uncommon.

    It is the same way something forbidden can become very erotic.

    That's true! Once it was an uncovered ankle, now it's pubic hair..novelty and things that are "forbidden" can heighten the excitement:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,828 ✭✭✭Reamer Fanny


    find your self a ginger women.from my experience they seem to be proud of there fiery bushes.lol

    Shivers up my spine ugh


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,736 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    Would the fuller bush not catch on the penis during penetration and therefore get pushed inside the vagina and thus cause friction burns internally?
    The thing to remember when it comes to stuff like 'doesn't leaving it natural hurt/cause infection/turn men off?' is to remember that Homo Sapiens have been around for around 200,000 years and for all but the last 20 or so of those years they have been shagging with pubic hair, even when the Victorians (ICBW) were shaving it off because of lice they were glueing wigs back on there. If it hurt or got infected, or was any kind of detriment, our species would either have died out or evolved out of it.

    The spreading of your legs at penetration occurs will clear the path of any hair, and on the off-chance that a little gets caught up then you just move it with your finger. IME it's reported to cause a pleasant tickling sensation, I know that male pubic hair definitely does.

    FWIW, I shave my bush when I feel like it (less than once a year), but I keep it trimmed. I shave my underarms and legs when they're going to be on display, and I never touch my eyebrows unless there's a hair sticking up. I also don't wear makeup. I've never had a problem in the romance department, which I put down to being generally clean and well presented (and loving movies with explosions. Men love a woman who can appreciate a massive fireball).


  • Registered Users Posts: 249 ✭✭imtdub


    Who likes Katrina Law?


  • Registered Users Posts: 105 ✭✭mcrods


    kylith wrote: »
    The thing to remember when it comes to stuff like 'doesn't leaving it natural hurt/cause infection/turn men off?' is to remember that Homo Sapiens have been around for around 200,000 years and for all but the last 20 or so of those years they have been shagging with pubic hair, even when the Victorians (ICBW) were shaving it off because of lice they were glueing wigs back on there. If it hurt or got infected, or was any kind of detriment, our species would either have died out or evolved out of it.

    The spreading of your legs at penetration occurs will clear the path of any hair, and on the off-chance that a little gets caught up then you just move it with your finger. IME it's reported to cause a pleasant tickling sensation, I know that male pubic hair definitely does.

    FWIW, I shave my bush when I feel like it (less than once a year), but I keep it trimmed. I shave my underarms and legs when they're going to be on display, and I never touch my eyebrows unless there's a hair sticking up. I also don't wear makeup. I've never had a problem in the romance department, which I put down to being generally clean and well presented (and loving movies with explosions. Men love a woman who can appreciate a massive fireball).

    Is it fair to say you are a natural woman? I think all woman should be more like you... Society is changing due to magazines and porn... Like surely not all women around the world shave. I once said to my ex to not shave down below. She agreed and ever since has not. 5 years later still hasn't


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,126 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Thread needs to be moved to the, fooked up humans section, quicklier than fast.
    And just what do you think AH is for exactly ?
    starWave wrote: »
    According to the internet, its like the 69 position without the bj part, i.e the woman is just sitting.
    AKA 68 as in I'll owe you one.
    There is. Lice! Lots of, ahem, secretions come from there and getting mixed in with tangled up hair is obviously not very hygienic. I know it's not necessary to get rid of pubic hair completely, but minimising it is definitely necessary for hygiene.
    http://news.yahoo.com/endangered-species-bikini-waxes-wiping-pubic-lice-211923413.html
    Pubic lice have plagued mankind for thousands of years, but the itchy pests are now facing a enemy that threatens to wipe them out: bikini waxing.

    And because it's AH
    Pubic lice are a different species from head lice, and evidence suggests humans caught pubic lice from gorillas some 3 million years ago (no not from human-gorilla sex, but rather from sleeping in their nests or eating apes),
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3715132.stm
    Some head lice infesting people today were probably spread to us thousands of years ago by an extinct species of early human, a genetics study reveals.

    It shows that when our ancestors left Africa after 100,000 years ago, they made direct contact with tribes of "archaic" peoples, probably in Asia.

    Lice could have jumped from them on to our ancestors during fights, sex, clothes-sharing or even cannibalism.
    Anyone feeling itchy after reading this ?

    stuar wrote: »
    "Hairy stockings aimed at deflecting unwanted male attention"
    AFAIK that's just a hoax.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭starling



    Lol, somehow I don't see PETA launching any "save the crabs" campaigns:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭bodice ripper


    I never thought I'd say it, but I am very pleased to see the public support for bush.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,043 ✭✭✭martinedwards


    yoda-without-pics-this-thread-is-useless-BWVHSx.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭starling


    ^^^^^^^

    Dude how long have you been on the Internet it's not that hard to find pictures of muffs:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,736 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    mcrods wrote: »
    Is it fair to say you are a natural woman? I think all woman should be more like you... Society is changing due to magazines and porn... Like surely not all women around the world shave. I once said to my ex to not shave down below. She agreed and ever since has not. 5 years later still hasn't

    I guess it would be fair to say that, although I do dye my hair when I fancy a change.

    I have heard that it's suggested that the increase in porn is changing the way people have sex, and I guess that changing attitudes to body hair would come under that. What they forget, though, is that the way they have sex in porn is for the camera; a lot of the positions they use are actually crap for having sex in but are done so the camera can see the angle, and that's probably why the hair started to be shaved off; as people started to want closer and more graphic views, and pubes do get in the way of that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 105 ✭✭mcrods


    kylith wrote: »
    I guess it would be fair to say that, although I do dye my hair when I fancy a change.

    I have heard that it's suggested that the increase in porn is changing the way people have sex, and I guess that changing attitudes to body hair would come under that. What they forget, though, is that the way they have sex in porn is for the camera; a lot of the positions they use are actually crap for having sex in but are done so the camera can see the angle, and that's probably why the hair started to be shaved off; as people started to want closer and more graphic views, and pubes do get in the way of that.

    Completely agree... Porn is changing people attitudes which is not good. You would never see a natural woman on a porn DVD.... Like this should not be the case...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,153 ✭✭✭Rented Mule


    mcrods wrote: »
    Completely agree... Porn is changing people attitudes which is not good. You would never see a natural woman on a porn DVD.... Like this should not be the case...

    You're not watching enough porn.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭starling


    mcrods wrote: »
    Completely agree... Porn is changing people attitudes which is not good. You would never see a natural woman on a porn DVD.... Like this should not be the case...

    Agree with you and kylith 100% there, I have no problem with porn in theory but people do need to remember just how unrealistic it is, it's not meant to be an instruction video! I think it's particulary a problem for younger people because they start watching porn well before they've actually had sex. Porn is the only graphic image of the actual act of shagging they see, so it starts to influence them before they have the experience to know "That looks hot but it's probably not all that comfortable in real life"
    I've said it before I think, it's all very well to see something in porn that excites you and think "Hm I wouldn't mind trying that" but people do need to remember there's a difference between doing things for how they look and actually experiencing them yourself. Porn - the video and picture kind - naturally overemphasises the visual to a degree that doesn't have much to do with the actual experience of sex in real life.


  • Registered Users Posts: 105 ✭✭mcrods


    You're not watching enough porn.

    Why is that now


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,612 ✭✭✭Lelantos


    mcrods wrote: »
    Why is that now

    Scared the wife will catch you?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 277 ✭✭Con Logue


    I think I'd choke on my pint if a woman told me, randomly and with some emphasis that she waxed her bush, okay? A bit like one time where a friend of a friend in mixed company declared that no matter how much a man pestered her she would never take it up the bum.
    Personally I think the plucked chicken look is awful but for obvious reasons isn't a deal breaker. Or even a conversation starter.


  • Registered Users Posts: 105 ✭✭mcrods


    Lelantos wrote: »
    Scared the wife will catch you?

    I don't need to watch it!


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,126 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    mcrods wrote: »
    Completely agree... Porn is changing people attitudes which is not good. You would never see a natural woman on a porn DVD.... Like this should not be the case...
    Porn movies and Disney are responsible for the most frustrated human beings I know http://gs1.wac.edgecastcdn.net/8019B6/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_l3r34jTkCa1qzr5kvo1_r1_500.jpg


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