God I hate little fcukers

Odysseus · 24-06-2013 07:39PM #1

What can you say. I just arrived in my Mam's about 30 minutes and she starts to tell me she had two teenagers cut the grass out the back garden. Fair enough I generally try to do it for her; but I used to make a few bob cutting grass when I was that age.

However, I asked her how much my radar went off immediately. Initially they wanted 15, she bargained them down to 10, but get this went she went to pay they refused any payment saying it wasn't a lot of work and they would get her again etc.

I got her to check her purse and it was empty, thankfully she only had 25 in notes in it, but they were gone. Of course one of them also asked to use the jack, he must have taken the purse up there and return it on they way back

So I jumped on the bike after getting a brief description and caught them not too far away. Loads of denial and trying to fill me bull****, they tried to keep moving away but I just kept blocking their way with the bike.

I think they where afraid I'd ram them. One of them panicked and legged so I ended up just taking 20 off him and letting the other go eventually.

It's a pity she only discovered they also took her phone, but she only copped that after I came home.

I hate cnuts who rob the elderly, my mum is quite upset her had to make her a cup of tea and give her a valium:( to help her relax.

Quite a few OAPS have been robbed in some way here in the past few months.

Any way rant over, she was lucky it could have been a lot worse.

Festy · 24-06-2013 07:41PM

****ing skangers :mad:

lintdrummer · 24-06-2013 07:42PM

Fair play for taking action OP, many wouldn't have. Hope your mam isn't too shook up.

kneemos · 24-06-2013 07:42PM

Did you give them back a tenner for cutting the grass?

Fr_Dougal · 24-06-2013 07:47PM

Odysseus wrote: »

What can you say. I just arrived in my Mam's about 30 minutes and she starts to tell me she had two teenagers cut the grass out the back garden. Fair enough I generally try to do it for her; but I used to make a few bob cutting grass when I was that age.

However, I asked her how much my radar went off immediately. Initially they wanted 15, she bargained them down to 10, but get this went she went to pay they refused any payment saying it wasn't a lot of work and they would get her again etc.

I got her to check her purse and it was empty, thankfully she only had 25 in notes in it, but they were gone. Of course one of them also asked to use the jack, he must have taken the purse up there and return it on they way back

So I jumped on the bike after getting a brief description and caught them not too far away. Loads of denial and trying to fill me bull****, they tried to keep moving away but I just kept blocking their way with the bike.

I think they where afraid I'd ram them. One of them panicked and legged so I ended up just taking 20 off him and letting the other go eventually.

It's a pity she only discovered they also took her phone, but she only copped that after I came home.

I hate cnuts who rob the elderly, my mum is quite upset her had to make her a cup of tea and give her a valium:( to help her relax.

Quite a few OAPS have been robbed in some way here in the past few months.

Any way rant over, she was lucky it could have been a lot worse.

Woah, woah, woah, woah there. You know these kind might come from an underprivileged background. God knows what their family situation is like at home. Did you stop to think that maybe they really really needed the money and phone?

Larianne · 24-06-2013 07:48PM

Hope you called the cops and a visit will scare the bejaysis out of them. Otherwise they'll just keep doing it. :mad:

Hope your mam is okay. The poor lady.

major bill · 24-06-2013 07:50PM

I thought this was going to be a rant about Midgets

Cee-Jay-Cee · 24-06-2013 07:51PM

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

Woah, woah, woah, woah there. You know these kind might come from an underprivileged background. God knows what their family situation is like at home. Did you stop to think that maybe they really really needed the money and phone?

Yeah! Go find them and give the poor misfortunate wee bastards back the money and buy them another phone after all one phone is no good between two of them.

kneemos · 24-06-2013 07:51PM

You sure ya got the right two?are ya?

The Backwards Man · 24-06-2013 07:53PM

Probably in poor taste, but reminds me of a fella I know used to own a bar. He was always raving about this bar manager he had that was the best in the country, and he only had to pay him half the going rate in the area.

'How do you manage that? Surely he would go somewhere else for better money?'

The owner would say 'Not at all, he makes a good enough wage with me when you count what he takes out of the till himself'

Stealing from the elderly is the lowest of the low.

I am pie · 24-06-2013 07:53PM

Good man. At least you give them a bit of a fright and probably stopped them coming back nearby.

No doubt there will be some eejit passing by giving you the vigilantes are bad spiel, should have contacted the authorities and let them deal with it etc.

Odysseus · 24-06-2013 07:57PM

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

Woah, woah, woah, woah there. You know these kind might come from an underprivileged background. God knows what their family situation is like at home. Did you stop to think that maybe they really really needed the money and phone?

I spent a lot of my profession life working with all types of criminals from petty to very serious. Understanding the processes behind criminality is very different to condoning it.

I also argue very strongly in favour of rehab here and experiencing stuff like this would certainly not change my mind or my experience.

However, the main points need to be highlighted here, firstly, they and not my clients, so how I feel about them can be as subjective and personal as I want.

Secondly, I have very little time for those who rob OAPs.

Hootanany · 24-06-2013 07:58PM

Have you checked the Lead on the roof as well.

Odysseus · 24-06-2013 07:59PM

kneemos wrote: »

You sure ya got the right two?are ya?

I am actually, they where only 300m away from the house.

Gbear · 24-06-2013 08:01PM

Not just little scumbags who take advantage of the elderly.

A neighbour of my grandmother charged her a thousand quid to paint a ****ing wall. What's worse was that she didn't have the money so he frogmarched her down to the bank so she could get it out. He was her neighbour for decades and he pulls ****e like that. C*nt.

It's really hard to try to juggle protecting your elderly relatives with taking away their autonomy. It's sad that people can't just trust others but whether it's a modern phenomenon or not, you pretty much have to try to stop anyone from entering their house or doing any jobs or work for them without vetting them yourself.

Fr_Dougal · 24-06-2013 08:02PM

Odysseus wrote: »

I spent a lot of my profession life working with all types of criminals from petty to very serious. Understanding the processes behind criminality is very different to condoning it.

I also argue very strongly in favour of rehab here and experiencing stuff like this would certainly not change my mind or my experience.

However, the main points need to be highlighted here, firstly, they and not my clients, so how I feel about them can be as subjective and personal as I want.

Secondly, I have very little time for those who rob OAPs.

That's fair enough. The point I was trying to make is that I've seen you defend what most people would see as the indefensible here in AH, you've even requested that 'junkies' are not referred to as 'junkies' both on threads on on the Feedback thread.

What those tramps did to your mam is disgusting. But I wonder had you read this story in a paper and not been directly impacted would your reaction have been the same? I'm not having a go at you, it's just food for thought.

MickFleetwood · 24-06-2013 08:03PM

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

Woah, woah, woah, woah there. You know these kind might come from an underprivileged background. God knows what their family situation is like at home. Did you stop to think that maybe they really really needed the money and phone?

Does coming from a poor background entitle you to steal from the elderly? :rolleyes:

Some people have such skewed views of the world. This post literally angers me, unless you're being facetious. Nah, he wasn't thinking about the poor state these two worthless, deceitful cúnts were possibly in after they had just stolen from his mother.

seenitall · 24-06-2013 08:04PM

Odysseus wrote: »

I spent a lot of my profession life working with all types of criminals from petty to very serious. Understanding the processes behind criminality is very different to condoning it.

I also argue very strongly in favour of rehab here and experiencing stuff like this would certainly not change my mind or my experience.

However, the main points need to be highlighted here, firstly, they and not my clients, so how I feel about them can be as subjective and personal as I want.

Secondly, I have very little time for those who rob OAPs.

But much more time for murderers and rapists, going by your past posts.

Class.

Truly, personal perspective is everything, Mr. Psychologist.

MickFleetwood · 24-06-2013 08:06PM

seenitall wrote: »

But much more time for murderers and rapists, going by your past posts.

Class.

Truly, personal perspective is everything, Mr. Psychologist.

Perhaps because it was his elderly mother they were stealing from?

seenitall · 24-06-2013 08:09PM

MickFleetwood wrote: »

Perhaps because it was his elderly mother they were stealing from?

Yes, that's my point.

Odysseus · 24-06-2013 08:20PM

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

That's fair enough. The point I was trying to make is that I've seen you defend what most people would see as the indefensible here in AH, you've even requested that 'junkies' are not referred to as 'junkies' both on threads on on the Feedback thread.

What those tramps did to your mam is disgusting. But I wonder had you read this story in a paper and not been directly impacted would your reaction have been the same? I'm not having a go at you, it's just food for thought.

Where do I defend crime? I defend the right to proper jail facilities that do not deprive people of their human rights, and those little fcukers have human rights and I would not want their rights withdrawn.

I in no way started to go into a rant about any torture porn fantasies and how I would like to seen them suffer, because that is not what I would want. If they where to be caught, I would want them treated within the law, and would not want the law to extract revenge on my behalf. In my OP I don't think I would have suggest any of the above, that would be in any type of significant conflict with any of my previous posts on the topic of criminality here.

In relation to your question if something happens in your life it is going to have a much more significant impact than something I would read in a paper, I don't think you could suggest any different.

However, are you saying that my OP in this thread highlights a contradiction in my view on criminality and how we should treat it, or to be correct how I view it show be treated?

looking_around · 24-06-2013 08:21PM

The Backwards Man wrote: »

PHe was always raving about this bar manager he had that was the best in the country, and he only had to pay him half the going rate in the area.

'How do you manage that? Surely he would go somewhere else for better money?'

The owner would say 'Not at all, he makes a good enough wage with me when you count what he takes out of the till himself'

My Grandfather was quite the businessman and used to say, "they have to be making you a decent profit to think you won't notice the stealing. And that works just fine for me"

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On topic, sadly this isn't new or a sign of the times .. There's always been plenty of jerks ready to steal from anyone.

Mind why is it always more shocking when it's the elderly over someone with a family? I mean stealing is stealing.

In fact I'd be more shocked for the family, as the majority of elderly are grand money-wise, they're well off enough.

PizzamanIRL · 24-06-2013 08:28PM

Bastards. Fair play for going after them and getting something back.

What happened to someone doing an honest job and that's the end of it. Now people have to worry will they rob you or not. Scandalous. My mother won't even answer the door nowadays unless she's expecting someone.

seenitall · 24-06-2013 08:29PM

Odysseus wrote: »

Where do I defend crime? I defend the right to proper jail facilities that do not deprive people of their human rights, and those little fcukers have human rights and I would not want their rights withdrawn.

I in no way started to go into a rant about any torture porn fantasies and how I would like to seen them suffer, because that is not what I would want. If they where to be caught, I would want them treated within the law, and would not want the law to extract revenge on my behalf. In my OP I don't think I would have suggest any of the above, that would be in any type of significant conflict with any of my previous posts on the topic of criminality here.

In relation to your question if something happens in your life it is going to have a much more significant impact than something I would read in a paper, I don't think you could suggest any different.

However, are you saying that my OP in this thread highlights a contradiction in my view on criminality and how we should treat it, or to be correct how I view it show be treated?

LOL, just LOL. (Yes, it does.)

Well I guess you should have called the Gardai then. Instead you went on a personal retribution mission, and no doubt put the frighteners on those impressionable young minds. Shame on you!

It's not torture porn, granted, but at least torture porn on boards is confined to fantasy.

catallus · 24-06-2013 08:32PM

I'm sorry about what happened to your mum OP, but the gist of your story seems to be that you set off down the street, found the first two young lads you saw and bullied money out of them by intimidating them, even when they denied it was them? How can you be in any way certain (or even have a hunch) that it was those two kids who stole your mum's money??

seligehgit · 24-06-2013 08:35PM

Absolute disgrace!Hate people who target the elderly.:mad:

Odysseus · 24-06-2013 08:35PM

seenitall wrote: »

But much more time for murderers and rapists, going by your past posts.

Class.

Truly, personal perspective is everything, Mr. Psychologist.

Can you highlight the issue between my past posts on rehab and my view on the need to have a rehab based justice system over here and my OP here.

I would not say I posted anything that conflicts with my previous posts and there are a lot of them on this topic.

I have posted in the past that the people I find harder to work with are those who engage in domestic violence and those who attack/rob OAPs.

Does that stop me working with such clients and giving them the best possible treatment, no it doesn't. I have work with both groups and will again. Some people find sexual offenders too difficult to work with me I'm fine with it.

Part of my work is clinical supervision, where I see another therapist and if a persons crime was stopping me from giving them the best care I can, because they deserve that, well that is where I would talk about this, leading to me finding the personal a ore suitable therapist. I have never had to do this yet.

So can you actually highlight a significant contradiction here, because I can't and that is what you are implying isn't it or am I wrong?

Anyway, I glad I arrived when I did, and I don't think they will return. It is a pity I couldn't detain the for the cops, but I wasn't into having to physically restrain two 17-9 year olds. It just gets too messy if they resist and I'm not into battering kids or people weaker than me.

seligehgit · 24-06-2013 08:41PM

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

Woah, woah, woah, woah there. You know these kind might come from an underprivileged background. God knows what their family situation is like at home. Did you stop to think that maybe they really really needed the money and phone?

There are lots of kids from less fortunate backgrounds and they do not engage in this sort of behaviour.

kneemos · 24-06-2013 08:43PM

catallus wrote: »

I'm sorry about what happened to your mum OP, but the gist of your story seems to be that you set off down the street, found the first two young lads you saw and bullied money out of them by intimidating them, even when they denied it was them? How can you be in any way certain (or even have a hunch) that it was those two kids who stole your mum's money??

According to the op they were only 300m away and he did get a "brief"description from his shocked mother so they must have been the right ones...surly?

Odysseus · 24-06-2013 08:44PM

catallus wrote: »

I'm sorry about what happened to your mum OP, but the gist of your story seems to be that you set off down the street, found the first two young lads you saw and bullied money out of them by intimidating them, even when they denied it was them? How can you be in any way certain (or even have a hunch) that it was those two kids who stole your mum's money??

I arrived just after they left, they where still on the same street, wearing the exact same clothes as the description I was given by my Mum. Both of them still eating the fruit my mother gave the as they left.

Of I wanted them to wait for the cops, on top of the above why do you think they would not wait for the cops?

Or may there was two lads wearing the same gear, looking the same, eating the same fruit:pac:, not wanting to wait for the cops within 250-300m of my mams house.

Description was verified by another neighbour who had them cut her front garden before my Mams.

Or maybe I just like going around taking money off people smaller than me

24-06-2013 08:46PM

Anyone else gotten to the point where ya think the world would be a better place if these scumbags just evaporated without a trace?

God I hate little fcukers

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