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Silage thread

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  • #512
    mahoney_j
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,808 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    Western Pomise wrote: »
    In general on dairy farms etc how are ye finding size of first cuts compared to other years?......has late spring left ye short??

    Yield back about 30% but quality will be excellent,second cut absolutely flying weather came near perfect for it so far.3 k gallons of slurry went on with trailing shoe 2 days after harvest then bag and a half of pasture sward and topped up this week with a bag of asn.hoping to cut week before August bank holiday just in time for a few days at the Galway races!!


  • #513
    delaval
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭delaval


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    Yield back about 30% but quality will be excellent,second cut absolutely flying weather came near perfect for it so far.3 k gallons of slurry went on with trailing shoe 2 days after harvest then bag and a half of pasture sward and topped up this week with a bag of asn.hoping to cut week before August bank holiday just in time for a few days at the Galway races!!
    Second cut flying we spread ASN topup last week looking at end of July if we get rain if nit we may have to take sooner to reduce sr by getting this land back grazing again.

    We have only had 350mm rain so far this year and some of our ground is showing drought stress. We have covers of 900 showing seed heads:eek: It's better than lst yer though;);)


  • #514
    just do it
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    delaval wrote: »
    We have only had 350mm rain so far this year and some of our ground is showing drought stress.
    Do you measure it?


  • #515
    delaval
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭delaval


    just do it wrote: »
    Do you measure it?

    Ha ha! My neighbour does and we were chatting about the need for rain today


  • #516
    stanflt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,908 ✭✭✭stanflt


    Just in from walking crops- think ill knock 60 acres second cut tomorrow

    35 acres that I left cattle on to eat around ditches is around 10 days behind


    Think there's a good start to the week coming


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  • #517
    delaval
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭delaval


    stanflt wrote: »
    Just in from walking crops- think ill knock 60 acres second cut tomorrow

    35 acres that I left cattle on to eat around ditches is around 10 days behind


    Think there's a good start to the week coming
    Is it second cut or another piece of first cut?


  • #518
    stanflt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,908 ✭✭✭stanflt


    delaval wrote: »
    Is it second cut or another piece of first cut?

    Second cut


  • #519
    delaval
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭delaval


    stanflt wrote: »
    Second cut
    Must be lovely stuff. Is there 3000 on it? I must be doing something wrong as I cut the same time as you and ours won't be reeady for a whil yet


  • #520
    stanflt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,908 ✭✭✭stanflt


    delaval wrote: »
    Must be lovely stuff. Is there 3000 on it? I must be doing something wrong as I cut the same time as you and ours won't be reeady for a whil yet

    That would only be four tonne fresh per acre- there is more like 7-8 tonne @ 30dm fresh weight

    It's very hard to measure covers over 2000 correctly


  • #521
    delaval
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭delaval


    stanflt wrote: »
    That would only be four tonne fresh per acre- there is more like 7-8 tonne @ 30dm fresh weight

    It's very hard to measure covers over 2000 correctly
    You need a couple of dry days and I need a few wet ones, just can't please us:rolleyes::rolleyes:


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  • #522
    stanflt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,908 ✭✭✭stanflt


    delaval wrote: »
    You need a couple of dry days and I need a few wet ones, just can't please us:rolleyes::rolleyes:

    We've had fantastic growing conditions- got enough rain last week followed by three or four scorchers- it was wet yesterday evening but not enough to make muck- three days to cut ted and spread compound and it can rain like hell after that


  • #523
    galway_dude24
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13 ✭galway_dude24


    Just finishing first cut today


  • #524
    Timmaay
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,392 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    Another 25 acres in today, last of the 1st cut. Will feed that to the drycows, another 40acres 2nd cut should be ready in august. Anyone hazard a guess what the dmd of 2nd cut will be? Mostly new swards. Does 2nd cut dmd follow a similar trend to 1st cut, ie does the dmd fall off a cliff when it bulks out, or is it a case of its growing slower, so wider window to get it cut?


  • #525
    mf240
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,901 ✭✭✭mf240


    Timmaay wrote: »
    Another 25 acres in today, last of the 1st cut. Will feed that to the drycows, another 40acres 2nd cut should be ready in august. Anyone hazard a guess what the dmd of 2nd cut will be? Mostly new swards. Does 2nd cut dmd follow a similar trend to 1st cut, ie does the dmd fall off a cliff when it bulks out, or is it a case of its growing slower, so wider window to get it cut?

    I started a thread on exact same question timmay.

    :)http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=85065862


  • #526
    Bizzum
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭Bizzum


    10 acres knocked today. The contractor will row it up tomorrow and bale Wed all going to plan.


  • #527
    TEAT SQUEEZER
    Closed Accounts Posts: 516 ✭✭✭TEAT SQUEEZER


    Timmaay wrote: »
    Another 25 acres in today, last of the 1st cut. Will feed that to the drycows, another 40acres 2nd cut should be ready in august. Anyone hazard a guess what the dmd of 2nd cut will be? Mostly new swards. Does 2nd cut dmd follow a similar trend to 1st cut, ie does the dmd fall off a cliff when it bulks out, or is it a case of its growing slower, so wider window to get it cut?

    its a safer bet for quality cos its def got that wider window..... reckon it could be as heavy as first cut this year but need some more rain too..
    just enough moisture to keep going on grazing ground but ground not topped or baled so far is getting v rough.


  • #528
    red bull
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,391 ✭✭✭red bull


    cutting 40 acres tomorrow pick up wednesday, grew a lot in last week, usually do first cut early june


  • #529
    stanflt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,908 ✭✭✭stanflt


    Busy


  • #530
    Viewtodiefor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,217 ✭✭✭Viewtodiefor


    Lads made a fuxk up of fertiliser in 1st silage field for second cut. Put on way to heavy after miscalculation and 600kg bags instead of 500. Anyway ground got 2000k slurry around 10 days ago n today over 4 bags of 24-5-5. So what are implications of this?


  • #531
    delaval
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭delaval


    Viewtodiefor wrote: »
    Lads made a fuxk up of fertiliser in 1st silage field for second cut. Put on way to heavy after miscalculation and 600kg bags instead of 500. Anyway ground got 2000k slurry around 10 days ago n today over 4 bags of 24-5-5. So what are implications of this?

    None except you should have a savage crop. Be sure to wait 45 days a min for N to be gone


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  • #532
    just do it
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    Viewtodiefor wrote: »
    Lads made a fuxk up of fertiliser in 1st silage field for second cut. Put on way to heavy after miscalculation and 600kg bags instead of 500. Anyway ground got 2000k slurry around 10 days ago n today over 4 bags of 24-5-5. So what are implications of this?

    Feck all N in slurry so 48 days for 96 units of N in fertiliser to be used up i.e. 7 weeks to the day of spreading. Of all the years, this was the year to make that mistake!


  • #533
    Viewtodiefor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,217 ✭✭✭Viewtodiefor


    just do it wrote: »
    Feck all N in slurry so 48 days for 96 units of N in fertiliser to be used up i.e. 7 weeks to the day of spreading. Of all the years, this was the year to make that mistake!

    Yeah was good year for mistake except I'm getting married 2nd week of August !


  • #534
    Dampintheattic
    Closed Accounts Posts: 839 ✭✭✭Dampintheattic


    just do it wrote: »
    Feck all N in slurry so 48 days for 96 units of N in fertiliser to be used up i.e. 7 weeks to the day of spreading. Of all the years, this was the year to make that mistake!

    I have cut silage up to five days before this recommended date according to the two units nitrogen per day formula.
    Never seen a problem as a result
    Often thought to myself, that if this formula is so exact, then the actual nitrogen content in the stuff we buy, must be less than claimed on the bag!!


  • #535
    just do it
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    Viewtodiefor wrote: »
    Yeah was good year for mistake except I'm getting married 2nd week of August !

    Which is it? Silage or marriage? Now's your chance to set down a marker :D





    (I an joking of course)


  • #536
    just do it
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    Dampintheattic wrote: »
    I have cut silage up to five days before this recommended date according to the two units nitrogen per day formula.
    Never seen a problem as a result
    Often thought to myself, that if this formula is so exact, then the actual nitrogen content in the stuff we buy, must be less than claimed on the bag!!
    Yeah I can't see it being a problem this time of year especially. I took my first cut 3 days early as the weather was due to break.


  • #537
    Viewtodiefor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,217 ✭✭✭Viewtodiefor


    just do it wrote: »
    Yeah I can't see it being a problem this time of year especially. I took my first cut 3 days early as the weather was due to break.

    Either way lads I'd say it will be cut before n take the chances!


  • #538
    1chippy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,716 ✭✭✭1chippy


    Viewtodiefor wrote: »
    Yeah was good year for mistake except I'm getting married 2nd week of August !
    Cut the silage and postpone the wedding. im sure she will understand, with the year thats in it.


  • #539
    Marooned75
    Closed Accounts Posts: 565 ✭✭✭Marooned75


    1st cut 6 June will look to take 2 nd cut 1st week of August.Would leaving it another couple of weeks lose to much feed value by trying to bulk it up?


  • #540
    mf240
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,901 ✭✭✭mf240


    I think( now im no expert )that you would lose no quality at that time as grass wont be shooting out but the only thing is if you get very wet weather in early sept god knows when youd get it cut.


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  • #541
    freedominacup
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭freedominacup


    Viewtodiefor wrote: »
    Yeah was good year for mistake except I'm getting married 2nd week of August !

    Bale that field and wilt it well.


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