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Nuns teaching sex education

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,800 ✭✭✭Senna


    pajopearl wrote: »
    You from Limerick??? Pretty sure I know who you're talkin about if you are!? That poor woman had a total nervous breakdown afterwards. Didn't even last her first yr out of Maynooth. Terrible story. She's a neighbour now.

    No different end of the country


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,090 ✭✭✭jill_valentine


    Foxhound38 wrote: »
    Yeah, but why SHOULD they specifically be the ones to teach it? I mean, there's no reason why firefighters or gardai COULDN'T do it either, but they would also be bizarre choices wouldn't they?

    I think people who have specifically sworn off ever having sex because they think there's something inherently bad about it are much worse choices than firefighters or gardai, yes.

    I would say that literally anybody short of a registered sex offender would be better equipped to teach kids about sex than the religiously celibate. Let's forget for a moment that there's some historical crossover between those two groups.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,128 ✭✭✭Engine No.9


    I think people who have specifically sworn off ever having sex because they think there's something inherently bad about it are much worse choices than firefighters or gardai, yes.

    I'm not sure that's why they've sworn off it. Isn't it coz they're married to god and having sex would be adulterous???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,298 ✭✭✭moc moc a moc


    kneemos wrote: »
    You don't need to be a sailor to know the sea is wet.

    Yeah, but you kind of do if you're supposed to teach someone how to sail.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭Rasheed


    I went to a religious school but with the nuns long gone and I don't remember getting any sex ed. We did the scientific stuff in science alright but nothing more. One brother went to the Christian brothers down the road, they never got any sex ed but neither did the brother that went to the community school.

    I know we were shown a DVD in abortion by the religion teacher (not a nun). That was about the height of it.

    Children get a talk on sex in 6th class now, I think. Great idea IMO.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭Rasheed


    Yeah, but you kind of do if you're supposed to teach someone how to sail.

    Ah come on, it's not that technical! They wouldn't be going through different positions with the class or anything!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,128 ✭✭✭Engine No.9


    Rasheed wrote: »
    Children get a talk on sex in 6th class now, I think. Great idea IMO.

    Yup. Got my talk in 6th class (1992 :O) Introduction on a Monday night and the whole day Tuesday in school. I remember the girls gettin their own special video, whatever that was. I never found out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,090 ✭✭✭jill_valentine


    pajopearl wrote: »
    Yup. Got my talk in 6th class (1992 :O) Introduction on a Monday night and the whole day Tuesday in school. I remember the girls gettin their own special video, whatever that was. I never found out.

    That would be the traditionally far-too-late chat about periods.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,128 ✭✭✭Engine No.9


    That would be the traditionally far-too-late chat about periods.

    Seriously??? :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,547 ✭✭✭Foxhound38


    Rasheed wrote: »
    I went to a religious school but with the nuns long gone and I don't remember getting any sex ed. We did the scientific stuff in science alright but nothing more. One brother went to the Christian brothers down the road, they never got any sex ed but neither did the brother that went to the community school.

    I know we were shown a DVD in abortion by the religion teacher (not a nun). That was about the height of it.

    Children get a talk on sex in 6th class now, I think. Great idea IMO.

    We never got any abortion DVD in fairness. Are they allowed to push an agenda on kids in such a way on what is still very much a live topic?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,370 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    Sauve wrote: »
    I went to a secondary school run by nuns. I distinctly remember being told (by a lay teacher) that every time you have sex, there's a 1 in 6 chance of getting pregnant. Of course contraception was never discussed.

    I've had sex five times so far, I sure as hell won't be risking a sixth! :p

    Sounds like they were qualified at least


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭Rasheed


    Foxhound38 wrote: »
    We never got any abortion DVD in fairness. Are they allowed to push an agenda on kids in such a way on what is still very much a live topic?

    That was 2004 so it wasn't so such a hot topic. It was interesting in fairness, bit scientific to be honest, and the teacher didn't really push any agenda, just let us watch it.

    I don't realty know what she was trying to achieve with it but there you go!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭Rasheed


    pajopearl wrote: »
    Yup. Got my talk in 6th class (1992 :O) Introduction on a Monday night and the whole day Tuesday in school. I remember the girls gettin their own special video, whatever that was. I never found out.

    I was in sixth class in 2000 and never got a video! Hope I'm doing it right for the last 8 years..........


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭IM0


    What should be thought is contraception and how to use it properly the reality that it isnt 100% safe, condoms break, how to avoid this happening ect, the need for foreplay and methods [but keeping it to touching each other EVERYwhere [but not orally theyll learn that themselves later in time through exploration and curiosity/media], and how to get your partner going - afterall this is the whole point of FP] kissing ect, the need for respect for your partner while having sex and finally the REPROCUSSIONS of having a baby so young especially, but what a baby means as parents with a family saying how life changed for them and the necessary sacrifices they had to make in order to properly look after their child once born, how their social life and life was turned upside down ect.

    basically give them the realities while at the same time giving them the information in an un biast way. sex after bodily functions is the most natural things you can do, nothing wrong with it - but it needs to be drilled into them that having a child is going to mean freedom taken away and a change in life style needed. basically give them the 'oh **** really?' side of the possible reprocutions of sex, including sti's ect.

    there was a really good channel 4 programme for teenagers on sex education
    'sex education for teenagers' I think it was called or something. very good it was.

    Also sex ed should start around 10, before puberty hits. instilling respect is the main thing though at that early age. you want to get in there before pron does ;)
    after all the rest has been taught and sunk in over weeks or months, THEN move onto pron possibly and the reality that it is a FANTASY! and it is acting ect. but the issue needs to be addressed for society as a whole. the net has made things so much more accessible now, so sex ed needs to get ahead and head these things off at the pass before porn warps their ideas before they start having sex and they think that thats what its all about. in essence porn is not for young minds pre virginity which most of us know


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,646 ✭✭✭✭qo2cj1dsne8y4k


    Ahh yes we got that too, end of 1st year and although our nun was nice it was to tell us we were all too young to have boyfriends


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭WinnyThePoo


    I was told in primary school masterbation was selfish...i guess it is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,837 ✭✭✭TheLastMohican


    What next? How to free base?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    IM0 wrote: »
    What should be thought is contraception and how to use it properly the reality that it isnt 100% safe, condoms break, how to avoid this happening ect, the need for foreplay and methods [but keeping it to touching each other EVERYwhere [but not orally theyll learn that themselves later in time through exploration and curiosity/media], and how to get your partner going - afterall this is the whole point of FP] kissing ect, the need for respect for your partner while having sex and finally the REPROCUSSIONS of having a baby so young especially, but what a baby means as parents with a family saying how life changed for them and the necessary sacrifices they had to make in order to properly look after their child once born, how their social life and life was turned upside down ect.

    basically give them the realities while at the same time giving them the information in an un biast way. sex after bodily functions is the most natural things you can do, nothing wrong with it - but it needs to be drilled into them that having a child is going to mean freedom taken away and a change in life style needed. basically give them the 'oh **** really?' side of the possible reprocutions of sex, including sti's ect.

    there was a really good channel 4 programme for teenagers on sex education
    'sex education for teenagers' I think it was called or something. very good it was.

    Also sex ed should start around 10, before puberty hits. instilling respect is the main thing though at that early age. you want to get in there before pron does ;)
    after all the rest has been taught and sunk in over weeks or months, THEN move onto pron possibly and the reality that it is a FANTASY! and it is acting ect. but the issue needs to be addressed for society as a whole. the net has made things so much more accessible now, so sex ed needs to get ahead and head these things off at the pass before porn warps their ideas before they start having sex and they think that thats what its all about. in essence porn is not for young minds pre virginity which most of us know

    Ever consider teaching that no means no, and all the other nos that mean no?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,127 ✭✭✭yore


    Ain't it hypocriticalist that so many nuns work part-time as strippers. 3m 48s



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Kidchameleon


    News flash: Nuns and priests could have had sex before taking vows


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,436 ✭✭✭c_man


    Those who can't do, teach.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 505 ✭✭✭inocybe


    It's so tragic it isn't funny, but my school brought in a priest to talk about AIDS. The only nugget of wisdom I can remember is 'Abstinence girls, it's the only way'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,096 ✭✭✭✭McDermotX


    Nuns. Sex.

    I am so there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,442 ✭✭✭Sulla Felix


    Zaph wrote: »
    When was the last time you saw a young nun, never mind a sexy young nun? Excluding porn of course.

    Theres a very pretty in a pale delicate way, young nun that I've seen twice in easons in. dublin this year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,810 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    My girlfriends mother, a devout catholic, teaches sex education (i think as a vlounteer, but i'm not 100% sure) It's part of some catholic group or other, so even when it's not nuns there's still a catholic slant to it. I'd actually love to hear what she tells them!
    solas111 wrote: »
    A lot of people have different views on sex and they may not be talking from experience so I don't see why the nuns should not teach it.

    Come to think about it, the thought of a sexy young nun talking about sex....

    Me either;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,273 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    My biology teacher at school gave us plenty of lessons on sex. In one of which he mentioned masturbation and gestured towards me! I never lived it down.

    I mean, I wasn't the one who went through lessons with an obvious semi.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,641 ✭✭✭GarIT


    IM0 wrote: »
    What should be thought is contraception and how to use it properly the reality that it isnt 100% safe, condoms break, how to avoid this happening ect, the need for foreplay and methods [but keeping it to touching each other EVERYwhere [but not orally theyll learn that themselves later in time through exploration and curiosity/media], and how to get your partner going - afterall this is the whole point of FP] kissing ect, the need for respect for your partner while having sex and finally the REPROCUSSIONS of having a baby so young especially, but what a baby means as parents with a family saying how life changed for them and the necessary sacrifices they had to make in order to properly look after their child once born, how their social life and life was turned upside down ect.

    basically give them the realities while at the same time giving them the information in an un biast way. sex after bodily functions is the most natural things you can do, nothing wrong with it - but it needs to be drilled into them that having a child is going to mean freedom taken away and a change in life style needed. basically give them the 'oh **** really?' side of the possible reprocutions of sex, including sti's ect.

    there was a really good channel 4 programme for teenagers on sex education
    'sex education for teenagers' I think it was called or something. very good it was.

    Also sex ed should start around 10, before puberty hits. instilling respect is the main thing though at that early age. you want to get in there before pron does ;)
    after all the rest has been taught and sunk in over weeks or months, THEN move onto pron possibly and the reality that it is a FANTASY! and it is acting ect. but the issue needs to be addressed for society as a whole. the net has made things so much more accessible now, so sex ed needs to get ahead and head these things off at the pass before porn warps their ideas before they start having sex and they think that thats what its all about. in essence porn is not for young minds pre virginity which most of us know

    Do you not think that's pushing your own views a bit. Why is regular sex not the same as porn? I dont get why people say that at all, are the people that say it just lazy, or do they hate fun?

    I think safety pratices would be a better thing to teach given the recent snowball in sex toys, and BDSM.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,810 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    GarIT wrote: »
    Why is regular sex not the same as porn?

    Why is regular life not like the movies? Because it's just not.
    It would be great if every woman in the world had zero inhibitions, and loved their sexy friends joining in, but i have to say that hasn't been my experience. Mores the pity:mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,641 ✭✭✭GarIT


    Why is regular life not like the movies? Because it's just not.
    It would be great if every woman in the world had zero inhibitions, and loved their sexy friends joining in, but i have to say that hasn't been my experience. Mores the pity:mad:

    It does happen though, and education needs to change from saying its wrong to accepting it. Children need to be tought about threesomes and orgys, the majority of men dont know they need to change condom when changing partners to avoid spreading diseases between both females, or that changing holes mid intercourse can cause some nasty infections. Of the people who have had a good sex ed they are extremely uneducated about anything a good Catholic couple wouldn't do.

    We also need education on gay and lesbian sex. That is currently completely ignored.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,310 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    News flash: Nuns and priests could have had sex before taking vows
    News flash: nuns and priests are part of a cult where contraception is the work of the devil, sex outside marriage is the work of the devil, sex for the fun of it is the work of the devil, and it's your obligation to raise a big family whe you're married.

    Bull-fcuking-sh|t.
    IM0 wrote: »
    Also sex ed should start around 10, before puberty hits. instilling respect is the main thing though at that early age. you want to get in there before pron does ;)
    It'll be forgotten about when puberty hits; most stuff that is not instantly useful, unless taught every few weeks, will fade away. If taught when they've hit puberty, not only will it explain a lot, but Q & A will be usefull.

    =-=

    Was in post-primary in the 1994-1999 time frame, and I think sex ed was taught around 3rd class. Fair f**ks to the school; they brought in two people (a man and a woman) whose job was to teach it, and there was no religious slant that I can remember. Only one girl in the school became pregnant in 6th year, so I'm guessing it was a good education?


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