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Ban unhealthy food for overweight people

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  • #32
    Floppybits
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    so at weight do you class someone as fat?


  • #33
    Guill
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,332 ✭✭✭Guill


    DaveDaRave wrote: »
    You can gain fat eating healthy food and you can lose fat eating unhealthy food.

    Understood, but it's a lot harder to gain it when eating the healthy food. I also know that eating healthy doesn't make you healthy. But something like this would be a pro-active approach in a country that seems to me if full of passive complainers. It also means that junk food is available to everyone in the right circumstance.


  • #34
    DublinWriter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,599 ✭✭✭DublinWriter


    Smokers: Check.
    The Obese: Work in progress.
    The Ugly: 2018.


  • #35
    Dallas Uninterested Underarm
    Posts: 81,308 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Dallas Uninterested Underarm


    The pro active approach would be more education, not ridiculous laws that would achieve nothing and inconvenience everyone in the process


  • #36
    Guill
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,332 ✭✭✭Guill


    Floppybits wrote: »
    so at weight do you class someone as fat?

    When their bits get floppy. ;)


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  • #37
    Plazaman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,037 ✭✭✭Plazaman


    Yes because chubloids eating a Mc Donalds is a much bigger problem than junkies and skangers shooting up in broad daylight then harrasing the general public for money.

    Although we could cover the junkies in Chocolate and let the tubsters eat them - problem solved (junkies are low fat)


  • #38
    Mr Benevolent
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,433 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    Guill wrote: »
    At my lunch break I watched a man struggle to get out of his car and wobble into a Deli to get a full fry.

    And I thought to myself there's a lad who needs a lot of things but a fry is not one of them. Should we make it illegal to serve overweight people certain food?

    The sorts of foods I'm talking about are fizzy drinks, fast foods, junk foods, etc. All the **** you shouldn't eat unless part of a healthy diet.

    Link

    We have people on here complaining about dole scroungers, people who add nothing to the economy etc. But what about the people who slowly kill themselves and drain our economy through healthcare and inefficiency?

    Some people will call this a implementation of a Nanny state law but so what? If the law forces you to be healthier isn't that a good thing? If the law means you are statistically likely to live longer shouldn't it be praised?

    I'd take this:



    and turn it into something like this:



    Pubs don't breathalyse people to enforce the drink law as it can be clearly visible which obesity is also.

    The upshot of the whole thing is that if you live a healthy lifestyle and eat within your daily limits you can break out and enjoy a coke with a Chinese and some Ben and Jerry's afterwards but if you are overweight you don't. If you exercise then you will need to eat more but again if the belly starts to bulge you should be set straight.

    I'm sure initial roll out would be painful for some people but the long term benefits would be terrific as the next generation grow up with it in place.

    Now don't get me wrong. I was technically obese up until a few months ago and am now only classed as overweight. This is something that I feel could have kept me from getting Obese in the first place, i'm sure I would have hated it if it was brought in while I was obese but it wouldn't ever be an issue if i was never let get obese in the first place.

    So.. What do you think? I cant see any reason why somebody would demand being allowed to eat themselves into an overweight state other than people complaining about policing.

    And yes I do know that being skinny doesn't mean your healthy but being fat certainly doesn't either and obesity is the major issue. Until we change how we look at food in this country we will never improve the nations eating habits.

    The very same argument applies to banning alcohol.


  • #39
    dan1895
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    I think this solution would be taking things too far.........

    A fridge too far.

    *gets coat


  • #40
    Floppybits
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,636 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    Plazaman wrote: »
    Yes because chubloids eating a Mc Donalds is a much bigger problem than junkies and skangers shooting up in broad daylight then harrasing the general public for money.

    Although we could cover the junkies in Chocolate and let the tubsters eat them - problem solved (junkies are low fat)

    Junkies may be low fat but I am sure they would be toxic with all the drugs in them, unless your cunning plan is to have the tubsters eat the junkies, and then for the tubsters to die out due to overdosing on the drugs in the junkies they have eaten. :) Quite cunning that,


  • #41
    Guill
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,332 ✭✭✭Guill


    bluewolf wrote: »
    The pro active approach would be more education, not ridiculous laws that would achieve nothing and inconvenience everyone in the process

    Unfortunately people can fall into a habitual eating regardless of their level of education. It's always easy to say we'll educate our way out of this but I would guess that education in Ireland is at a level higher than at any time previous yet obesity is on the rise. It's habits we need to change.


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  • #42
    Corkbah
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    Guill wrote: »
    Wow, didn't take long for the straw man to come rushing in.

    WTF ??? Strawman ??? because I asked your opinion on what to do with other parts of society ... which I see flaws in !

    you asked for opinions on what we think about effectively punishing fat people for being fat ...I returned the favour asking your opinion on other sectors of society

    I have reported your post for accusing me of being a straw man ...or even associated with them - I am not and am offended by your accusation.


  • #43
    Rented Mule
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,154 ✭✭✭Rented Mule


    Guill wrote: »
    Discretion of the owner of the establishment, same as if you think they are too drunk for more alcohol.


    How can you tell if they are obese or just big boned ?

    What about small women with big breasts ?

    What about big women with small breasts ?


  • #44
    Dallas Uninterested Underarm
    Posts: 81,308 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Dallas Uninterested Underarm


    Guill wrote: »
    Unfortunately people can fall into a habitual eating regardless of their level of education. It's always easy to say we'll educate our way out of this but I would guess that education in Ireland is at a level higher than at any time previous yet obesity is on the rise. It's habits we need to change.

    Em, I'm not talking about theoretical physics classes, I'm talking about education on nutrition. And I don't mean "education" sponsored by the agricultural lads/food pyramid
    I also don't mean "But everyone knows", because what "everyone knows" seems to be that sugar and special k and more sugar is good for you


  • #45
    Guill
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,332 ✭✭✭Guill


    How can you tell if they are obese or just big boned ?

    Easily.

    What about small women with big breasts ?
    Yes.


    What about big women with small breasts ?
    Maybe.


  • #46
    Toto Wolfcastle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,005 ✭✭✭✭Toto Wolfcastle


    What about an obese person who has lost a substantial amount of weight through leading a healthy lifestyle but still has more to go? Say they allow themselves one treat a week. Would they have to get their Mars Bars on the black market or hang around outside shops until a skinny person agreed to go buy them a Mars Bar?


  • #47
    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    hatrickpatrick wrote: »
    We've had our daily abortion thread, our daily dole bashing thread, our daily girl bashing thread, our daily fat people bashing thread... Who wants to do the honours and complete AH's day by making the obligatory traveller bashing thread?

    I take that back: Bang on schedule
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056975621

    This forum is turning into the septic tank of Irish society :rolleyes:


  • #48
    Guill
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    Bobblehead Panda wrote: »
    What about an obese person who has lost a substantial amount of weight through leading a healthy lifestyle but still has more to go? Say they allow themselves one treat a week. Would they have to get their Mars Bars on the black market or hang around outside shops until a skinny person agreed to go buy them a Mars Bar?

    Kind of like giving a junkie a fix for giving up the Heroine for a while or giving an alcoholic a pint. It's not a step forward and it reinforces junk food as a reward.


  • #49
    Guill
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    hatrickpatrick wrote: »
    I take that back: Bang on schedule
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056975621

    This forum is turning into the septic tank of Irish society :rolleyes:

    So are some it's posters, nothing to add only thanks whoring bull for the rest of the un-opinionated retards.


  • #50
    Floppybits
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    Bobblehead Panda wrote: »
    What about an obese person who has lost a substantial amount of weight through leading a healthy lifestyle but still has more to go? Say they allow themselves one treat a week. Would they have to get their Mars Bars on the black market or hang around outside shops until a skinny person agreed to go buy them a Mars Bar?

    The garda would be raiding tubsters houses looking for their stashes of mars bars and they would be arresting the dealers selling the mars bars to tubsters. :)


  • #51
    Toto Wolfcastle
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    Guill wrote: »
    Kind of like giving a junkie a fix for giving up the Heroine for a while or giving an alcoholic a pint. It's not a step forward and it reinforces junk food as a reward.

    But you said junk food shouldn't be eaten unless as part of a healthy diet. If that obese person has a healthy diet then why shouldn't they be allowed have junk food once in awhile?


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  • #52
    Floppybits
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    Bobblehead Panda wrote: »
    But you said junk food shouldn't be eaten unless as part of a healthy diet. If that obese person has a healthy diet then why shouldn't they be allowed have junk food once in awhile?

    Nope once a tubster always a tubster. :)


  • #53
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
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    Nam smokers from smoking next.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • #54
    Dravokivich
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    What's needed are incentives and proper health/fitness schemes implemented. If you want the government to endorse and take on such action, there has to be something backing it up as well. The main problem leading to a lot of people becoming obese is a negative view of themselves, others increasing the negativity by outright banning or imposing more taxes (as referenced in threads before) isn't going to inspire nor incentivise'em.


  • #55
    OneOfThem Stumbled
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    Ban threads for stupid people :pac:


  • #56
    Call Me Jimmy
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    Plazaman wrote: »
    Although we could cover the junkies in Chocolate and let the tubsters eat them - problem solved (junkies are low fat)

    This is a man that should be in a position to turn this country around. Plazaman No. 1!


  • #57
    maguic24
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,790 ✭✭✭maguic24


    Corkbah wrote: »
    WTF ??? Strawman ??? because I asked your opinion on what to do with other parts of society ... which I see flaws in !

    you asked for opinions on what we think about effectively punishing fat people for being fat ...I returned the favour asking your opinion on other sectors of society

    I have reported your post for accusing me of being a straw man ...or even associated with them - I am not and am offended by your accusation.

    Strawman - Someone educate me please, I never heard that term before...


  • #58
    Insect Overlord
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    Corkbah wrote: »
    WTF ??? Strawman ??? because I asked your opinion on what to do with other parts of society ... which I see flaws in !

    you asked for opinions on what we think about effectively punishing fat people for being fat ...I returned the favour asking your opinion on other sectors of society

    I have reported your post for accusing me of being a straw man ...or even associated with them - I am not and am offended by your accusation.

    Just quoting this hilarious misunderstanding for posterity.


  • #59
    Handsome Bob
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    Guill wrote: »
    Now don't get me wrong. I was technically obese up until a few months ago and am now only classed as overweight. This is something that I feel could have kept me from getting Obese in the first place, i'm sure I would have hated it if it was brought in while I was obese but it wouldn't ever be an issue if i was never let get obese in the first place.

    So what you're saying is that in spite of having all of these temptations around you, you were still able to lose weight. In other words, you showed will and determination.

    Banning people from gaining access to certain foods isn't going to stop people from ballooning. As others have pointed out, there's more than one way to let yourself go.


  • #60
    April O Neill
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,305 ✭✭✭April O Neill


    Guill wrote: »
    Some people will call this a implementation of a Nanny state

    Quite.
    Guill wrote: »
    Now don't get me wrong. I was technically obese up until a few months ago and am now only classed as overweight.

    Ah, the reformed whore.


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  • #61
    Nemeses
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,829 ✭✭✭Nemeses


    I'm unhappy because I eat and I eat because I'm unhappy.


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