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Minimum wage

  • 16-06-2013 07:28PM
    #1
    DJjazzyjeff
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 61 ✭✭


    Is it about time to up the minimun wage. People live better lives on the dole and rent allowance.


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  • #2
    professore
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,849 ✭✭✭professore


    DJjazzyjeff wrote: »
    Is it about time to up the minimun wage. People live better lives on the dole and rent allowance.

    Time to cut rent allowance instead


  • #3
    Amirani
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,623 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    Minimum wage is at an appropriate level I reckon. I think we'd be better off with downward pressure on welfare payments rather than upwards pressure on wages.


  • #4
    donvito99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭donvito99


    Minimun is a smaller village North of Ballymun.


  • #5
    Fox_In_Socks
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,615 ✭✭✭Fox_In_Socks


    Cut down on threads, more like.


  • #6
    MonkstownHoop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,196 ✭✭✭MonkstownHoop


    DJjazzyjeff wrote: »
    Is it about time to up the minimun wage. People live better lives on the dole and rent allowance.

    Is Minimun wage strictly a Ballymun thing?


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  • #7
    ted1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,500 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    DJjazzyjeff wrote: »
    Is it about time to up the minimun wage. People live better lives on the dole and rent allowance.

    Bollox its far to high. They need to cut the dole and rent allowance


  • #8
    hfallada
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,179 ✭✭✭hfallada


    Something like only 4 % of workers are on it in Ireland. But it's used to set other wage rates. So by increasing the minimum wage you are increasing a lot of wages indirectly.

    The best way to get people working is to cut dole. I don't think an extra few euros a week on the minimum wage is going to get people to work


  • #9
    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    NiallSparky wrote: »
    Minimum wage is at an appropriate level I reckon. I think we'd be better off with downward pressure on welfare payments rather than upwards pressure on wages.

    IMO neither of these is correct. There needs to be serious downward pressure on the overall cost of living. People always point to the fact that Ireland is uncompetitive because of high wage expectations and so on - what they rarely point out is that a litre of milk in Dublin costs about twice as much as it would in the UK. Hell, a pint of beer in Dublin costs a euro more than it would down the country, generally speaking.

    Allegedly what keeps the cost of living so ridiculously high in Ireland is high rents, and it's about time something was done about that. How can we expect to be competitive when you can get almost anything you want cheaper by just popping over the border into NI? It's ridiculous.


  • #10
    Chucken
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,459 ✭✭✭Chucken


    DJjazzyjeff wrote: »
    Is it about time to up the minimun wage. People live better lives on the dole and rent allowance.

    You have experience of this I suppose? Considering you just did your junior cert!


  • #11
    Stinicker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,098 ✭✭✭Stinicker


    Why not introduce wage subsides and get rid of those useless FAS schemes and internships, effectively allow people to get around €100 - €150/week from the dole with the employer paying the rest to bring the wage up the minimum of circa €340/ week.

    Cutting the dole is totally unacceptable and so is expecting people to work for similar <€200/week wages. I know many welfare recipients who'd rather work but working for the same money as the dole is a sick joke and is no different to slavery.


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  • #12
    Wacker The Attacker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,473 ✭✭✭Wacker The Attacker


    tuk ur minimum wage job


  • #13
    mikehammer67
    Closed Accounts Posts: 699 ✭✭✭mikehammer67


    scrap jobbridge


  • #14
    RayM
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,973 ✭✭✭RayM


    hfallada wrote: »
    The best way to get people working is to cut dole. I don't think an extra few euros a week on the minimum wage is going to get people to work

    Idiotic. How many jobs would be created by cutting the dole?


  • #15
    Phoebas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,373 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    mikehammer67 wrote: »
    scrap jobbridge
    How would that impact on the minimum wage?


  • #16
    Mint Sauce
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    Thinly veiled dole bashing thread.

    How many of them have we had this weekend so far then?


  • #17
    The Backwards Man
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    Jam.


  • #18
    mikehammer67
    Closed Accounts Posts: 699 ✭✭✭mikehammer67


    irish-stew wrote: »
    Thinly veiled dole bashing thread.

    How many of them have we had this weekend so far then?

    count 'em and see


  • #19
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,227 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    hatrickpatrick wrote: »
    - what they rarely point out is that a litre of milk in Dublin costs about twice as much as it would in the UK.
    Dunnes have 2 litres of milk for 99c. Centra and spar have them for 1.19 or 1.29. Not sure how cheap milk can be produced but 20-25p a litre retail seems way too cheap.


  • #20
    Sauve
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,646 ✭✭✭✭Sauve


    The Backwards Man wrote: »
    Jam.

    You can have butter or jam.


  • #21
    The Backwards Man
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    Sauve wrote: »
    You can have butter or jam.
    You know when someone before you stuck their knife in the butter dish and there was jam on it before and they leave a wee sliver of jam on top of the butter and you get that on your piece?

    I love that.


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  • #22
    Chucken
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,459 ✭✭✭Chucken


    What are our feelings on trifle?


  • #23
    The Backwards Man
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    Chucken wrote: »
    What are our feelings on trifle?
    With Remy Martin instead of sherry? Yes please.:)


  • #24
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Cant increase minimum wage, too many businesses are on the edge as it is. But i would certainly be in favour of slashing SW benefits for those who have never contributed a cent to the state.


  • #25
    ted1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,500 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    mikehammer67 wrote: »
    scrap jobbridge

    Once again bollox, plenty of people getting good jobs from it.


  • #26
    jaffacakesyum
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,207 ✭✭✭jaffacakesyum


    hatrickpatrick wrote: »
    IMO neither of these is correct. There needs to be serious downward pressure on the overall cost of living. People always point to the fact that Ireland is uncompetitive because of high wage expectations and so on - what they rarely point out is that a litre of milk in Dublin costs about twice as much as it would in the UK. Hell, a pint of beer in Dublin costs a euro more than it would down the country, generally speaking.

    Allegedly what keeps the cost of living so ridiculously high in Ireland is high rents, and it's about time something was done about that. How can we expect to be competitive when you can get almost anything you want cheaper by just popping over the border into NI? It's ridiculous.

    I agree cost of living is ridiculous in Ireland - how do we solve that though? Genuine question as I by no means have an extensive knowledge of economics :pac:


  • #27
    DaveDaRave
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 387 ✭✭DaveDaRave


    jobbridge is great u get 250 a week and u dont feel responsible for ur job coz theyyre not paying u anyway, its win in


  • #28
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    The Backwards Man wrote: »
    With Remy Martin instead of sherry? Yes please.:)
    Living the vida loca i see?


  • #29
    Sauve
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,646 ✭✭✭✭Sauve


    The Backwards Man wrote: »
    You know when someone before you stuck their knife in the butter dish and there was jam on it before and they leave a wee sliver of jam on top of the butter and you get that on your piece?

    I love that.

    No no no no. Jam in the butter? Butter in the jam? I've killed people for less :eek:
    Chucken wrote: »
    What are our feelings on trifle?

    Can't bayte a good sherry trifle with those, um, what ya call them, crispy fingery biscuits....


  • #30
    ted1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,500 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    DaveDaRave wrote: »
    jobbridge is great u get 250 a week and u dont feel responsible for ur job coz theyyre not paying u anyway, its win in

    Idiot, take some responsibility and you'll have a chance if getting a job from it.


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  • #31
    The Backwards Man
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    suicide_circus wrote: »
    Living the vida loca i see?
    Yeah, minimum wage is way too high.:p


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