Dash cam saves your ass (no Roundabout stuff please :)

gutteruu wrote: »

Lane choice for time saving? Your saying undertake? Thats a lot more dangerous in my opinion.

Not at all. Procedural, structured driving.

The statement that you get held up by people lane blocking is laughable because you actually have no concept of time. General congestion, traffic and even a light change will add more time to your journey than someone blocking you at 80km/h. Because when you hit traffic or have to stop at lights, you fall well below 50km/h and at lights you actually have to stop. Thats adding far more time and cutting far more off your forward speed than someone doing 80km/h in the outer lane for perhaps 10 mins.

If we take say a 10 minute window, if you had to fall from 120km/h to 80km/h for 5 minutes of that 10 minutes, you'll have travelled about 16km. (As opposed to the 20km you would have travelled had you been able to maintain 120km/h for 10 mins)

Contrast that to being on a congested road doing say 60km/h for 10 mins, and you'll have travelled 10km.

What I'm trying to say, being stuck behind someone on a motorway at 80km/h for 10 minutes, is actually negligible in the overall timings. Your talking seconds out of your day. Not hours. Being stuck at 80km/h the whole way to Cork from Dublin will add one hour to your day.

Its a terrible driver mentality that speed means you'll get somewhere faster. Not always the case when you start to factor traffic and the overall length of your journey. Ireland doesn't have roads long enough to make the justification your making. Were we having this conversation on a pan-European basis or on American highways I'd agree with you.

Just calm down behind the wheel and if your managing to save 4 hours per working day, sell the idea because I'm sure every courier company in the world would want to hear it.

BX 19 wrote: »

Realistically that's not going to happen anytime soon with the current shortage of Garda resources.

Realistically that won't happen because of the Irish mindset. As long as your not speeding you can do what you like. Most people on here are arguing for and trying to justify the reasoning behind people refusing to move and blocking lanes. Thats why nothing will happen.

vibe666 wrote: »

I'd heard it on the radio, but wasn't really paying attention and it looks like it was directly in relation to warning incoming drivers of a speed trap ahead, so I'll be continuing to flash the fcuk it of them in future.

I remember my driving instructor told me about 2 years ago that flashing someone was to be used or informing another of your presence and that's why you shouldn't flash someone to let them through

Two red light breakers from the other day within minutes of each other.

Shane_ef wrote: »

Watching the first video i thought you were referring to the silver astra, and was thinking it was a yellow light let him off with it and and WOW, that was very late :eek:

Yep, same.

Voodoomelon wrote: »

I agree, they overtook very slowly, but seeing as it's a very short stretch of two lanes I would have waited it out instead of being on their rear like that.

short stretch? Doing around 100 kph the lane hogger took 20 seconds after the Toyota went completely into the left lane to get into a position to pass and move into the left lane safely but even then he continued in the overtaking lane for another 15 seconds!

Watch the front passenger wheel of the fiesta as its breaking the light :eek:

CiniO wrote: »

And that's the reason to tailgate him?

Yes because you would expect him to move over after the 20+ seconds he took to pass the "slow" moving car - if that had happened like it should have you would not have to close the gap to pass as its a climbing lane not a dual carrigeway ... the overtaking lane ends in a bit

What would you prefare the camera car to do ... undertake him? :eek:

Barrel wrote: »

Yes because you would expect him to move over after the 20+ seconds he took to pass the "slow" moving car - if that had happened like it should have you would not have to close the gap to pass as its a climbing lane not a dual carrigeway ... the overtaking lane ends in a bit

What would you prefare the camera car to do ... undertake him? :eek:

Undertaking still would be safer than tailgating.
And also as you can see on the video - tailgating didn't have any effect. Camera car was still stuck behind that vehicle even though he was tailgating.
So what was the point in tailgating?

Supergurrier wrote: »

He wasn't tailgating he was making his intention to overtake apparent, tailgating is being up another cars backside for an extended period of time also dash cams make you look closer than you are.

Unfortunately you are wrong here.
Dash cams, as they are very wide angle (usually about 120degrees) makes you look further than you really are.
Also tailgating is tailgating, no matter if it's for few seconds of few hours.
Additionally I never heard it was advised to to make your intention to overtake apparent by tailgating.

All you wrote above it pretty much wrong.

Undertaking (an illegal manouvre) while more convienient is not the answer and if the Yaris driver (who doesn't seem to have much in the way of any observational skills) pulled back into the left lane and hit the cam car then he is in the wrong because of it.

Yes, that's true.
But tailgating is the same illegal manouver, and if Yaris decides to have his brakes tested, then cam car is in the wrong anyway.
Only difference is that tailgating doesn't give any results. Undertaking might help, but don't get me wrong - I'm not advising to undertake.
Just out of those two, it's clear which manuover is better and safer.

Cam car did the right thing regardless of what hindsight heroes think

I'm genuinely shocked that so many people in this forum seem to share this opinion.

CiniO wrote: »

Undertaking still would be safer than tailgating.

:eek: 3 words

pot kettle black

If you think that undertaking that car before that climbing lane runs out in a few seconds is safer than tailgaiting the car while waiting/hoping he moves into the left lane - then I am astonished at your perception of safety.

Keeping a good distance and flashing is way more effective than tailgating

BohsCeltic wrote: »

Youtube seems to decrease the quality, it was crystal clear on my laptop. Face this everyday, people not using lanes, i only gave a short beep to let him know. Nearly got caught on the roundabout myself by the mondeo slowing

Those roundabouts around Liffey Valley have alot of that going on.
I enter from Liffey Valley in the outside lain take the 3rd exit [that lain is marked accordingly] and then the slip for the N4 west bound and the amount of times i have someone on the inside try and cut across me for the same slip is mad.
The one up at the cinnama exit is worse tho