Algorithm to calculate how young is too young?

srfc19 · 14-06-2013 11:59PM

I always work off the half your age rule.

starlit · 15-06-2013 12:04AM

Algorithm be a maths calculation if you a leaving cert student if you college student + algorithm could be either a maths calculation or a form of programming code as per above with parameters.

looking_around · 15-06-2013 12:41AM

gosh.. I don't take age into account at all.
If I meet someone and we hit off, great. If he turns out to be older or younger than expected why would that matter? (so long as you're both adults obviously)

People put far too much emphasis on age.

Mr.Prodston · 15-06-2013 02:13AM

Cuchulainn1. wrote: »

If there's grass on the pitch?
I really should post more in the mathematics forum.

Using the Duckworth-Lewis method I see, a man after my own heart :pac:

zonEEE · 15-06-2013 02:22AM

Squaring numbers are just like wimmen..... if they're under 13 just do them in your head!

SeanW · 15-06-2013 02:42AM

sock puppet wrote: »

try{
CheckGirlOut (girl);
}
catch(TooYoungException e) {
System.out.println("Enjoy prison!")
}

I got a better one

CheckOutGirl(Minx m)
{
    if (m.getAge() < 18)
    {
         throw new Exception("Too young, back off");
    }
    else
    {
        proceed();
    }
}

DEFTLEFTHAND · 15-06-2013 02:52AM

My mother was 21 when I was born and my father was 35. They were married the year before.

Ten of Swords · 15-06-2013 03:35AM

Leaving Cert Student wrote: »

This is elegant maths. i need a sophisticated solution currently have x/2 +7 where x is your age. however I dont feel this takes enough into consideration.

Formula: Y=AX^B

Variables;
Y=Result, if less than 17 then younger age is too young.
A=Older Age
X=Age Difference
B=Log(younger age as a % of Older age)/Log(2)

Parameters;
X must be a whole integer (the higher it is the lower the result),
Y must be rounded to the nearest whole integer
B must be negative and less than 0 (round to 4 decimal places max)

Example: 21 year old and 17 year old
Y=21*4^(log(0.81)/log(2))
Y=21*4^-0.304
Y=14

I'm aware this won't produce an ideal result for every scenario (older people with an age gap of >8 years) but it's 3:30am so frankly I don't care!

Leaving Cert Student · 15-06-2013 11:46AM

A fascinating idea. The conclusion in general seems to be "if there is grass on the pitch, play ball".

While this is a wise motto, I feel it is necessary to find a numerical value or means of expressing this pre-pubescent/post-pubescent theory. As we all know, this phenomenon is not constant and must be delicately estsblished.

smcgiff · 15-06-2013 11:55AM

18 goes into 54 more often than 54 goes 18.

Leaving Cert Student · 15-06-2013 12:04PM

smcgiff wrote: »

18 goes into 54 more often than 54 goes 18.

God everyone is just trying to crack jokes here! Can I get a serious response to this age-old problem or is this indeterminable mathematically? I am going to try a geometric approach.. i will update soon

IM0 · 15-06-2013 12:07PM

doesnt matter. as long as everyone is legal its all fair game, **** the naysayers

smcgiff · 15-06-2013 12:11PM

Leaving Cert Student wrote: »

God everyone is just trying to crack jokes here! Can I get a serious response to this age-old problem or is this indeterminable mathematically? I am going to try a geometric approach.. i will update soon

You can take it as a certainty everyone is treating your question with the respect it deserves.

How are you going to factor in societal values? Are you going to apply a variable to all 200+ countries and countless sub divisions of each country.

You're the one that's coming across like the two guys in weird science. Btw, you realise you posted this in After Hours?

Leaving Cert Student · 15-06-2013 12:14PM

smcgiff wrote: »

You can take it as a certainty everyone is treating your question with the respect it deserves.

How are you going to factor in societal values? Are you going to apply a variable to all 200+ countries and countless sub divisions of each country.

You're the one that's coming across like the two guys in weird science. Btw, you realise you posted thiz in After Hours?

another joke? give it a break old timer

im going to model it for ireland first.

smcgiff · 15-06-2013 12:22PM

Leaving Cert Student wrote: »

another joke? give it a break old timer

im going to model it for ireland first.

Not a joke, just an observation.

You're going to model it, eh?

What research do you propose to find out what society considers acceptable? Are you going to do this before or after your psychology degree, masters or doctorate?

CrazyRabbit · 15-06-2013 12:31PM

I'm not sure really. But younger than 5 is a really bad idea. They can't keep secrets.

Leaving Cert Student · 15-06-2013 12:52PM

smcgiff wrote: »

Not a joke, just an observation.

You're going to model it, eh?

What research do you propose to find out what society considers acceptable? Are you going to do this before or after your psychology degree, masters or doctorate?

The comedy keeps on coming... desperate for the virtual approval of your army of boardsies are we? craving that special "thanks", lol. I will take the age of consent into consideration of course and I will structure some mathematical method of incorporating the idea that with increasing age comes increasing acceptability. this is not proportional, however, and there lies our problem.

smcgiff · 15-06-2013 12:59PM

Leaving Cert Student wrote: »

The comedy keeps on coming... desperate for the virtual approval of your army of boardsies are we? craving that special "thanks", lol. I will take the age of consent into consideration of course and I will structure some mathematical method of incorporating the idea that with increasing age comes increasing acceptability. this is not proportional, however, and there lies our problem.

You're now seeing jokes where there are none. I simply pointed out how inadequate you are to model.

For your sake and anybody with an sense of humour I suggest you take this to a science forum.

EuropeanSon · 15-06-2013 01:03PM

Mathematician here. The answer (which I have derived by a formula far too complex for you to grasp, so I won't bother you with it) is whatever you're into, as long as it's legal.

Leaving Cert Student · 15-06-2013 01:30PM

smcgiff wrote: »

You're now seeing jokes where there are none. I simply pointed out how inadequate you are to model.

For your sake and anybody with an sense of humour I suggest you take this to a science forum.

Something about a moderator of an online forum calling me inadequate that I am struggling to take seriously.

I have received some great insights on this forum and I intend to keep it here.

smcgiff · 15-06-2013 01:39PM

Leaving Cert Student wrote: »

Something about a moderator of an online forum calling me inadequate that I am struggling to take seriously.

I have received some great insights on this forum and I intend to keep it here.

Then you shouldn't be surprised or upset to get After Hours type responses.

Ficheall · 15-06-2013 01:45PM

Leaving Cert Student wrote: »

Interesting approach. perhaps a formula devised to give parameters both sides of one's age makes more sense? though.. in general... one can go with someone many years older while not necessarily many years younger. Do we have mathematicians?

The formula does apply to both sides of one's age. Just consider yourself as the older/younger person as appropriate.

-Dr. Ficheall

Leaving Cert Student · 15-06-2013 01:53PM

Ficheall wrote: »

The formula does apply to both sides of one's age. Just consider yourself as the older/younger person as appropriate.

-Dr. Ficheall

Thank you doctor.

dsmythy · 15-06-2013 01:58PM

(x/2)+7 works perfectly. Once the answer is coming to 18+ then no maths required.

Leaving Cert Student · 15-06-2013 02:08PM

dsmythy wrote: »

(x/2)+7 works perfectly. Once the answer is coming to 18+ then no maths required.

I disagree, the seven is based on nothing. The idea of adding the constant 7 becomes sordid when one imagines a 70 yo and a 42yo. Personally, I think the gap here is monstrous and this constant should have an x variable attached.

also, considering a 13 yo, the formula becomes invalid. surely this adde number should be based on the value of x somehow.

smcgiff · 15-06-2013 02:24PM

Leaving Cert Student wrote: »

I disagree, the seven is based on nothing. The idea of adding the constant 7 becomes sordid when one imagines a 70 yo and a 42yo. Personally, I think the gap here is monstrous and this constant should have an x variable attached.

You've just added another complication. As has been discussed in another thread ideas about relationships changes as one matures. Therefore a gap that you think is monstrous now will change as you mature.

I'll not hold my breath for any more useful a formula than the one already mentioned.

Leaving Cert Student · 15-06-2013 03:07PM

Yes, as I mentioned, the gap is less important with increasing age. Is there a means of utilising a logarithm to make this directly prop. Perhaps. Your snide comments are certainly not going to win you this nobel prize, however.

Mickey H · 15-06-2013 03:10PM

Leaving Cert Student wrote: »

This is elegant maths. i need a sophisticated solution currently have x/2 +7 where x is your age. however I dont feel this takes enough into consideration.

consider an 80yo... by this rule they may date a 47 yo. for me this is absurd and outlines a flaw with the current algorithm. any more advanced models out there?

(x/2) +7

Brackets man, brackets.

UCDVet · 15-06-2013 03:17PM

They are 'too young' if they can't reasonably make an informed decision about what they want to do(whether because of age or mental issue), or if you are in a position of power/authority over them.

Age ratios and formulas are ridiculous....the idea that every 25 year old has reached the same level of mental/physical maturity is absurd. I've known people at 20 who were more mature, more responsible, more 'adult' than 35 year olds.

Physically, there are people who hit puberty at 11 and others who don't until 20.

Legally, it depends on the specifics of where you live, where she lives, and where you are when you 'hook up'. The differences of maturity is reflected in the various different age of consent laws. People don't just wake up at 17 and say, 'Well, okay, I'm a mature adult, ready to make adult like decisions about sex.' - but that's the law in Ireland.

Bottom line...

1.) Don't break the law
2.) Don't exploit someone

If you're 90 and she's 20 and willing - have fun.
If you're 20 and she's 90 and willing - have fun.

Leaving Cert Student · 15-06-2013 03:23PM

UCDVet wrote: »

They are 'too young' if they can't reasonably make an informed decision about what they want to do(whether because of age or mental issue), or if you are in a position of power/authority over them.

Age ratios and formulas are ridiculous....the idea that every 25 year old has reached the same level of mental/physical maturity is absurd. I've known people at 20 who were more mature, more responsible, more 'adult' than 35 year olds.

Physically, there are people who hit puberty at 11 and others who don't until 20.

Legally, it depends on the specifics of where you live, where she lives, and where you are when you 'hook up'. The differences of maturity is reflected in the various different age of consent laws. People don't just wake up at 17 and say, 'Well, okay, I'm a mature adult, ready to make adult like decisions about sex.' - but that's the law in Ireland.

Bottom line...

1.) Don't break the law
2.) Don't exploit someone

If you're 90 and she's 20 and willing - have fun.
If you're 20 and she's 90 and willing - have fun.

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While I admire what you are trying to do here, the formul will obviously be a general one, but one based closely on facts and societal values.

Algorithm to calculate how young is too young?

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