Sex Assault on Special Needs Girl.

tayto lover · 14-06-2013 04:55PM #1

The person who is responsible for this attack is beneath contempt and if caught should get the longest possible sentence for this type of crime.
I hope the poor girl makes a good recovery but I am shocked that anyone could commit a crime of this nature.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/0614/456652-progress-in-inquiry-into-attack-on-woman-in-dublin/

woodoo · 14-06-2013 05:02PM

Very sickening, is he caught yet?

tayto lover · 14-06-2013 05:04PM

woodoo wrote: »

Very sickening, is he caught yet?

Not yet.
Apparently he had her in a house for nearly 2 hours. She must have been terrified.

Hownowcow · 14-06-2013 05:04PM

The poor thing.

I'm not shocked though. Nothing seems too low for the vermin wandering around masquerading as human.

Festy · 14-06-2013 05:04PM

There are some seriously ****ed up people in the world.

Hope they catch the bastard soon.

mike65 · 14-06-2013 05:04PM

Not "shocked" per se just depressed. You can only wonder about the cowardly mentality of the attacker/s

tommyboy2222 · 14-06-2013 05:05PM

tayto lover wrote: »

The person who is responsible for this attack is beneath contempt and if caught should get the longest possible sentence for this type of crime.
I hope the poor girl makes a good recovery but I am shocked that anyone could commit a crime of this nature.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/0614/456652-progress-in-inquiry-into-attack-on-woman-in-dublin/

Are you really shocked ?

I find it hard to be shocked by anything these days.

rob316 · 14-06-2013 05:05PM

Cut his balls off with a rusty hacksaw, its the only ways these predators will learn.

Peregrine · 14-06-2013 05:07PM

I hope he gets caught and gets locked up for the rest of his sick, sad life.

Absolutely cowardly and inhumane act to assault a helpless person.

y0pperz · 14-06-2013 05:08PM

Too few details on the case to comment or pass judgement imo.

Vicar in a tutu · 14-06-2013 05:12PM

The poor thing, it actually turns my stomach to think someone would do this to anyone, let alone a very vulnerable young girl, really hope the pig that done this is caught and made pay.

Roger_007 · 14-06-2013 05:15PM

y0pperz wrote: »

Too few details on the case to comment or pass judgement imo.

Agreed. It's amazing how quick people are to rush to judgement while knowing next to nothing about the incident. There was a case in Galway a few years ago where a girl was reported to have been raped on the street by two men. Everyone was screaming blue murder over it. It subsequently transpired that the incident never happened.

tayto lover · 14-06-2013 05:17PM

Roger_007 wrote: »

Agreed. It's amazing how quick people are to rush to judgement while knowing next to nothing about the incident. There was a case in Galway a few years ago where a girl was reported to have been raped on the street by two men. Everyone was screaming blue murder over it. It subsequently transpired that the incident never happened.

This incident happened.
The girl was examined by medical people and a team of garda investigators set up to investigate the case.
It was on the news too.

Grayson · 14-06-2013 05:19PM

tommyboy2222 wrote: »

Are you really shocked ?

I find it hard to be shocked by anything these days.

especially if you spend any amount of time on the internet.

woodoo · 15-06-2013 10:22AM

Gardai release a description of the attacker, dark skinned and dark hair.

dsmythy · 15-06-2013 10:57AM

woodoo wrote: »

Gardai release a description of the attacker, dark skinned and dark hair.

Well that narrows it down.......

camel jockey · 15-06-2013 11:02AM

No doubt he'll get a suspended sentence, at best.

camel jockey · 15-06-2013 11:03AM

dsmythy wrote: »

Well that narrows it down.......

I'm sure they would have supplied more info if they had it...

gungun · 15-06-2013 11:47AM

Does dark skinned mean black or arab or north african or what?

Patrick2010 · 15-06-2013 11:55AM

I'm afraid the PC brigade would be offended if that was actually said by the guards

Ace Attorney · 15-06-2013 12:09PM

it makes you wonder wtf goes on in some peoples heads that they would sexually assault a special needs person, a person that is vulnerable in society and a person that may find everyday tasks to be daunting without having to interact with other able bodied persons. I wonder will it affect how she trusts people in the future. I hope they catch the scum and put him away for a long long time, an attack on an able bodied person is bad enough , but an attack on a special needs person a disgusting act altogether

hfallada · 15-06-2013 12:13PM

The courts generally throw the book at these people. But we will probably find out its john of gods the guy needs and not mountjoy

SuperGrover · 15-06-2013 12:14PM

Patrick2010 wrote: »

I'm afraid the PC brigade would be offended if that was actually said by the guards

Is there a version of Godwin's Law yet to cover the inevitable and stupid "PC Brigade" comment?

mitosis · 15-06-2013 12:22PM

What are the "special needs" of the victim? Given they make the crime more grave.

jaffacakesyum · 15-06-2013 01:30PM

dsmythy wrote: »

Well that narrows it down.......

I suppose it's just a coincidence that several women have come forward that day who were walking down the same street at around the same time, reporting a man trying the same thing on with them enough so that they needed to report him to Gardaí.

Look, I'm all for fair trials and not everybody who gets accused of any crime (not just rape) is guilty.

But it's a sad day when every single thread about rape on here comes with presumptions that the women is lying.

Some people just have their head in the sand with just how big a problem rape is in this country (and every other country presumably

)

y0pperz · 15-06-2013 01:40PM

jaffacakesyum wrote: »

But it's a sad day when every single thread about rape on here comes with presumptions that the women is lying.

Nobody said she was lying. But when people have found the man guilty and sentenced him to, for example:

Cut his balls off with a rusty hacksaw, its the only ways these predators will learn.

Just hours after the incident, then what's the point in having due process and a judicial system at all? What if I were to accuse you, find you guilty and sentence you (without any investigation, evidence, interviews, mitigating circumstances, etc) for the crime of rape all within hours of the incident?

That doesn't sit right with me.

Czarcasm · 15-06-2013 01:41PM

jaffacakesyum wrote: »

I suppose it's just a coincidence that several women have come forward that day who were walking down the same street at around the same time, reporting a man trying the same thing on with them enough so that they needed to report him to Gardaí.

Look, I'm all for fair trials and not everybody who gets accused of any crime (not just rape) is guilty.

But it's a sad day when every single thread about rape on here comes with presumptions that the women is lying.

Some people just have their head in the sand with just how big a problem rape is in this country (and every other country presumably )

Jaffa I think that poster means it's just such a vague description that there's no way an attacker could be identified from "medium height, dark skin, dark hair".

jaffacakesyum · 15-06-2013 01:56PM

Czarcasm wrote: »

Jaffa I think that poster means it's just such a vague description that there's no way an attacker could be identified from "medium height, dark skin, dark hair".

Yeah I waqs quoting the end of the conversation, it was really this comment I should have quoted

y0pperz wrote: »

Too few details on the case to comment or pass judgement imo.

Although the poster has since come out to say he doesn't claim she's lying

y0pperz wrote: »

Nobody said she was lying.

And I absolutely agree about comments regarding chopping off balls. If it were a woman who committed a serious crime and we talked about chopping off her tits it would be barbaric but because it's a male, accused, rapist it's ok.

On the other hand:

y0pperz wrote: »

What if I were to accuse you, find you guilty and sentence you (without any investigation, evidence, interviews, mitigating circumstances, etc) for the crime of rape all within hours of the incident?

That doesn't sit right with me.

Nobody is sentencing this man. It's AH ffs, all it is is outrage at yet another rape of a woman and this time a special needs woman. It's a sick world.

If he's guilty of course.

tayto lover · 15-06-2013 01:57PM

Czarcasm wrote: »

Jaffa I think that poster means it's just such a vague description that there's no way an attacker could be identified from "medium height, dark skin, dark hair".

Sometimes I think the Garda are reluctant to give out full descriptions in cases like this as they fear someone recognising, or thinking they recognise, the culprit and might take action themselves.

I think they may know a lot more than they are saying and hopefully they do.

It is very important that this person is caught soon as he might attack again.
Shocked to think that there are people like this ready to attack the most vulnerable people in broad daylight.

Cody Pomeray · 15-06-2013 01:58PM

The worst crimes, imo, are those that cannot be explained at all.

You hear of petty burglars, or muggers, or even murderers and you think "ok, maybe they had a terrible upbringing/ maybe they lost their head in a moment of rage/ maybe they were provoked".

How can the act of taking a special needs person from his or her life, and apparently subjecting them to sexual violence be reconciled with anything.

I think that's why this case is having such a big impression on us. I hate tags like "evil", but you'd have to wonder are some people not just fundamentally bad people? I don't understand how any upbringing and background, no matter how bad, could be reconciled with this act.

eviltwin · 15-06-2013 02:01PM

Hurting a special needs person should be on a par with committing the act on a child. Its the same mentality, picking on someone vulnerable who doesn't have the mental ability to understand what is going on. It must be harder too to counsel someone with special needs after a rape and help them move on. Its awful, I really hope they catch the person responsible.

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