Should children be banned from pubs?

Karlitto · 13-06-2013 02:06PM #1

Hey folks,

I just want to see what the general opinion is, my question is, should children be banned from any place selling alcohol, I mean pubs, clubs etc. with the exception of private functions of course. And obviously I don't mean shops, supermarkets or off licenses.

And by children I mean <10

8k2q1gfcz9s5d4 · 13-06-2013 02:07PM

no

Xavi6 · 13-06-2013 02:08PM

Because I don't have any and everyone else's annoy the sh*te out of me, 100% yes.

The Backwards Man · 13-06-2013 02:09PM

Should only be allowed in pubs serving food. And they should be tied to the table too.

af_thefragile · 13-06-2013 02:10PM

I don't see why any children should be in a club, unless its some sorta private party for kids.

AngeGal · 13-06-2013 02:11PM

Basically your question is if children shouldn't be allowed in bars as they are now until 8pm.

Of course not, what a crazy notion.

ETA - This would of course mean kids would require ID to prove they are over 10.

minidazzler · 13-06-2013 02:11PM

Any place where people congregate to specifically get drunk is unsuitable for children. They really really shouldn't be there. And I'll include parents bringing their squalls for a meal in that.

SEPT 23 1989 · 13-06-2013 02:13PM

No

maybe before the smoking ban but certainly not now

krudler · 13-06-2013 02:19PM

A lot of places have kids allowed until certain times, best of both worlds.

I Heart Internet · 13-06-2013 02:21PM

minidazzler wrote: »

Any place where people congregate to specifically get drunk is unsuitable for children. They really really shouldn't be there. And I'll include parents bringing their squalls for a meal in that.

What about a pub that serves pizza in a seaside town at like 7pm?

AngeGal · 13-06-2013 02:21PM

krudler wrote: »

A lot of places have kids allowed until certain times, best of both worlds.

Every bar is legally required to have no under 18s past 9pm.

SeaDaily · 13-06-2013 02:21PM

minidazzler wrote: »

Any place where people congregate to specifically get drunk is unsuitable for children. They really really shouldn't be there. And I'll include parents bringing their squalls for a meal in that.

Not everyone goes to the pub specifically to get drunk...

Ilyana 2.0 · 13-06-2013 02:23PM

I see nothing wrong with children being in pubs during the day, providing they're well supervised and not causing a nuisance.

IM0 · 13-06-2013 02:24PM

they dont even pay road tax so yes :mad:

frank reynolds · 13-06-2013 02:27PM

what about restaurants and cafes that serve booze?
of course they should be welcomed, and i think the current legislation of allowing them in until a certain time covers exactly this.

LizT · 13-06-2013 02:27PM

minidazzler wrote: »

Any place where people congregate to specifically get drunk is unsuitable for children. They really really shouldn't be there. And I'll include parents bringing their squalls for a meal in that.

Depends on the pub to be honest. It's not up to us to parent other people's children, they will know if somewhere is suitable. I see no problem with it as long as they're out of the pub at nine like they're supposed to be.

cfc.forever · 13-06-2013 02:30PM

Yes I think children 10 and under should be allowed in the pub, because they bring in a lot of income.

Children buy crisps/bars/drinks etc.. and they might also like to play pool. Why wouldn't they be allowed? If they're not allowed, it will cost the pubs thousands annually + pubs can be good for events such as christenings/weddings etc.. and imagine the fact you can't bring your kids, so yes I think they should be allowed, but not after nine o clock.

Karlitto · 13-06-2013 02:32PM

af_thefragile wrote: »

I don't see why any children should be in a club, unless its some sorta private party for kids.

Sorry I should have clarified, club, i.e. rugby, football, golf clubs.

J Bourke · 13-06-2013 02:33PM

Well behaved kids should most definitely be welcome in pubs etc.

Noisy brats who run riot with no supervision from parents should be shown the door. Let the bar manager use their discretion... kinda like the way it already is

Karlitto · 13-06-2013 02:38PM

In my opinion, pubs are no places for kids, perhaps restaurants, but not pubs.

It is not a "safe" environment for children to be, at the end of the day, yes, it is not up to people to parent other peoples children, but the parents should be responsible enough to keep their children well behaved if brought into a pub, or even, not bring their children there at all.

And just to clarify, the age is irrelevant, but I am talking about the little kicking screaming bastards that are running around thinking the pub is a playground whilst the irresponsible parents get pissed and don't care.

SeaDaily · 13-06-2013 02:40PM

Karlitto wrote: »

It is not a "safe" environment for children to be, at the end of the day, yes, it is not up to people to parent other peoples children, but the parents should be responsible enough to keep their children well behaved if brought into a pub, or even, not bring their children there at all.

What pubs are you going to that aren't safe for children? What do you think is going to happen to them?

Davidth88 · 13-06-2013 02:42PM

It really depends.

I used to go to a pub that was great for watching footie , but Sunday afternoons were a nightmare .... basically the parents came in at 12:30 and by 3pm were hammered and their bored kids were tearing around making a real pain of themselves

However , bringing kids in to have a meal and then leaving..... acceptable

frank reynolds · 13-06-2013 02:45PM

Karlitto wrote: »

In my opinion, pubs are no places for kids, perhaps restaurants, but not pubs.

It is not a "safe" environment for children to be, at the end of the day, yes, it is not up to people to parent other peoples children, but the parents should be responsible enough to keep their children well behaved if brought into a pub, or even, not bring their children there at all.

And just to clarify, the age is irrelevant, but I am talking about the little kicking screaming bastards that are running around thinking the pub is a playground whilst the irresponsible parents get pissed and don't care.

But you couldnt have one rule for restaurants and one for pubs. it wouldnt work out.

i agree it's a total nightmare if you are just trying to have a quiet pint and a family of 8 arrive in and start kicking and screaming around you etc...

i think the way they have it at the moment is fine.

if people want to get p!ssed, then they should, at this stage, know to leave it until after 8pm or 9pm when they know there wont be any children in the pub. simples

A0 · 13-06-2013 02:46PM

No, alcohol should be banned.

AngeGal · 13-06-2013 02:46PM

Karlitto wrote: »

In my opinion, pubs are no places for kids, perhaps restaurants, but not pubs.

It is not a "safe" environment for children to be, at the end of the day, yes, it is not up to people to parent other peoples children, but the parents should be responsible enough to keep their children well behaved if brought into a pub, or even, not bring their children there at all.

And just to clarify, the age is irrelevant, but I am talking about the little kicking screaming bastards that are running around thinking the pub is a playground whilst the irresponsible parents get pissed and don't care.

I sympathise with this, the publican/barman should have a word if that is the case. Although that isn't always easy if the parents have a 'few' in them. But you can always go someplace else.

I disagree that it's unsafe, how? Children will always fall, etc so there is no perfectly safe environment.

The age isn't irrelevant however. Leaving aside all else, it's a stumbling block than I cannot think of a way to overcome. How is the pub supposed to enforce it? Require proof of age? Meaning kids would require passports at all times?

"You've never been abroad have ya not little mikey? Well then you and Mikey Sr. can f off!"

Agricola · 13-06-2013 02:47PM

A few years back Id have said yes. But people with kids deserve to be able to go out on a sunday afternoon and have a meal and a pint. Id keep to not after 7pm and maybe not were food isnt served. Never liked the idea of heading for a big booze up with lots of kids in tow. Gives them the wrong idea about drink and probably has something to do with the attitude we have to the stuff as a nation.

Karlitto · 13-06-2013 02:56PM

SeaDaily wrote: »

What pubs are you going to that aren't safe for children? What do you think is going to happen to them?

Do you really want me to explain that pubs sell alcohol? Which can make people aggressive, thus causing fights, do you really think that is an appropriate place for a child?

Karlitto · 13-06-2013 03:03PM

I wouldn't have a problem if parents could keep their children under control, but the majority cannot, they load their kids up with sweets, crisps, fizzy drinks and let them run wild.

I was in a pub on Saturday I believe it was, we were in the courtyard of the pub, kids running around chasing each other, screaming, splashing water from the pond/waterfall, do you think the parents were telling them to sit down at the table? No...

And eventually one of the little bastards is running by our table and one of his friends pushes him into our table, smacking his head off the corner (serves him right) thus spilling 3 of our drinks. Do you think the mother offered to replace them? Hell no, she just said sorry and went back to her table.

Ush1 · 13-06-2013 03:07PM

It's okay during the day but pubs in the evening aren't the place for children realistically.

Karlitto · 13-06-2013 03:16PM

Ush1 wrote: »

It's okay during the day but pubs in the evening aren't the place for children realistically.

Of course,

But I am more so referring to Saturday and Sunday afternoons.

Not all kids, but quite a lot of them act as if the pub is a playground.

Anyone · 13-06-2013 03:17PM

A0 wrote: »

No, alcohol should be banned.

Without alcohol there would be no kids.

Should children be banned from pubs?

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