Mirrors Edge: Catalyst

TimeToShine · 10-06-2013 10:19pm #1

Been waiting for this for a long time...was quite disappointed that they focused on combat but i'll keep the faith. The whole conference was made worthwhile for me because of this announcement.

Mr E · 10-06-2013 10:20pm

Still alive.

RobertFoster · 10-06-2013 10:39pm

Mr E wrote: »

Still alive.

I went straight to Youtube looking for the original theme after ME2 was announced

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TERyxFfMqDk

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 10-06-2013 10:51pm

this was a triumph?

Captain Chaos · 10-06-2013 10:55pm

Loved the first. Great concept and deserved a sequel to develop further. Can't wait and hope they take as much time as needed to get the best possible free running experience. Love the utopia setting and the mellow electronic music.

johnny_ultimate · 10-06-2013 11:04pm

TimeToShine wrote: »

was quite disappointed that they focused on combat but i'll keep the faith.

I haven't seen an announcement video yet (or indeed whatever it was), but that sentence concerns the heck out of me. Combat very often broke Mirror's Edge - all you wanted to do was take advantage of that glorious running system but all too often you were stopped in your tracks by guys with guns. And it wasn't a fun challenge. The hand to hand system was pretty solid, but often the game felt like it was punishing you for not picking up a gun. That more than anything (and, erm, indoor levels that aren't a load of bollocks) is what the sequel needs to fix to really achieve its very real, tantalising promise - it needs to empower those of us who just want to revel in the mechanics that made ME so absolutely unique.

Mark Hamill · 10-06-2013 11:05pm

Trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fB4ZZ-2xVWE

VinLieger · 10-06-2013 11:06pm

Edit: bah wrong thread

Ryuji_w · 11-06-2013 1:42am

yay on pc, ps4 and xbox one

https://twitter.com/mirrorsedge/status/344198222119587840

welkin · 11-06-2013 1:52am

Loved the first one.

Watching the time trial vids on youtube made me realise how bad at games I am compared to some people.

shannakai · 11-06-2013 2:05am

Anyone else want to see more of the streets than the rooftops of buildings?

I loved the game and it was amazing looking but I felt like there was a lack of people/places? it was rooftop after rooftop and then an office! before bursting out onto a rooftop....maybe shops? department stores? people getting in the way?(obviously not TOO much) Something where there's REAL problems and locations that you could see actually becoming a reality!

there's so much to work with when you look at the characters and you were told bits I suppose but nothing major. There was always something hinted at but never really paid off for me (I don't mean the main story).

Ryuji_w · 11-06-2013 2:06am

welkin wrote: »

Loved the first one.

Watching the time trial vids on youtube made me realise how bad at games I am compared to some people.

yeah, my best time trial ever was 12.5 seconds on this level
still need to beat level 7 and 9 speedruns

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uc1lqPTAzB0

ConFurioso · 11-06-2013 4:11am

PS4 may have just won E3, but this.....

THIS is the game I was waiting for. I've never played an game so much. The speed runs, while frustrating, kept me coming back, because I KNEW I could get that extra second.

If it can get the combat right, forget about guns and polish the running....so bloody excited!

Do we think that's why they focused on the combat? To say 'look, we know it was the weak point, we're working on it'. Or is it more about the action aspect?

'When it's ready'. Kind of refreshing to hear that....Take your time boys, especially if it means we get the game Mirror's Edge wanted so hard to be.

J. Marston · 11-06-2013 4:43am

shannakai wrote: »

Anyone else want to see more of the streets than the rooftops of buildings?

I loved the game and it was amazing looking but I felt like there was a lack of people/places? it was rooftop after rooftop and then an office! before bursting out onto a rooftop....maybe shops? department stores? people getting in the way?(obviously not TOO much) Something where there's REAL problems and locations that you could see actually becoming a reality!

there's so much to work with when you look at the characters and you were told bits I suppose but nothing major. There was always something hinted at but never really paid off for me (I don't mean the main story).

There was some ground level stuff in ME1, the train area and tunnels, the mall and the ship but you're right, I'd like to see more variation this time around. No excuse not to really, you can run and bounce off nearly anything.

I hope they don't mess with the look of the game though. No need to make it and dark and dingy. Keep the bright colours.

11-06-2013 9:29am

As excellent as the first one was, I'm surprised they're making a second. I seem to remember it being a critical success, but an absolute commercial failure?

Skerries · 11-06-2013 11:11am

I think it became a hit over time as it's popularity grew like a cult film

Genghiz Cohen · 11-06-2013 11:30am

They could pump out lots of DLC levels and time trials over time to keep a steady steam of money flowing in.

gizmo · 11-06-2013 12:28pm

It sold well over time but that went hand in hand with dramatic price cuts which is why, despite the final numbers looking reasonable, it wasn't earmarked for a sequel. The idea of it being "rebooted" reinforces this but I just hope to hell they don't change what made the original special and add in more tight corridors and encourage gun play.

valleyoftheunos · 11-06-2013 2:20pm

Delighted with this, ME almost amounted to a tech demo back in 2008 but it certainly got my attention. I traded away my copy because I had absolutely played to death but I must try and get another now, there were going for a fiver at one stage.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 11-06-2013 2:24pm

gizmo wrote: »

It sold well over time but that went hand in hand with dramatic price cuts which is why, despite the final numbers looking reasonable, it wasn't earmarked for a sequel. The idea of it being "rebooted" reinforces this but I just hope to hell they don't change what made the original special and add in more tight corridors and encourage gun play.

i hope it's littered with chest high walls, quick time events and at least two levels where faith has to deal with the realisation that she only became a runner because she couldn't attract a man

valleyoftheunos · 11-06-2013 2:27pm

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

i hope it's littered with chest high walls, quick time events and at least two levels where faith has to deal with the realisation that she only became a runner because she couldn't attract a man

Possibly some knee high fences that you can't jump over???

Zero-Cool · 11-06-2013 2:29pm

I just went out and bought Mirrors Edge for a tenner. Now to see what all the fuss is about.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 11-06-2013 2:32pm

valleyoftheunos wrote: »

Possibly some knee high fences that you can't jump over???

can't believe I didn't think of that. game of the year material if they include all this

Falthyron · 11-06-2013 2:33pm

Trying to find where I read the news, but apparently this is a pre-quel to the 2008 game. That is why you see her getting her tattoos in the trailer.

Really enjoyed the original - a breath of fresh air from all the FPS games coming out - and I hope this is just as focused on parkour and free-running.

ConFurioso · 11-06-2013 2:35pm

Makes sense if they want to reboot. Suppose it also makes sense since it never says Mirror's Edge 2 in the trailer.

valleyoftheunos · 11-06-2013 2:35pm

sheehy83 wrote: »

I just went out and bought Mirrors Edge for a tenner. Now to see what all the fuss is about.

All the fun is in seeing how quickly and smoothly you can traverse the environments. It can be immensely satisfying at times.

gizmo · 11-06-2013 2:53pm

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

i hope it's littered with chest high walls, quick time events and at least two levels where faith has to deal with the realisation that she only became a runner because she couldn't attract a man

You'd hate it anyway purely on the basis that the lead character is a female. :pac:

Penn · 11-06-2013 3:38pm

The first was fresh, innovative, interesting, but ultimately very flawed. My worry would be even if they fix most of the flaws, it's lost most of the originality. I'm hopeful though.

So long as they get rid of the "There's no loading screens during levels... but there are really long elevators which are totally not covers for loading screens". That actually really annoyed me. I would literally have preferred a loading screen.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 11-06-2013 3:43pm

i heard people saying the same about mass effect... what is it about them that pissed people off? it's exactly the same as a loading screen only it doesn't break the immersion as much.. honestly can't see a single problem with them.

J. Marston · 11-06-2013 4:36pm

Yeah, and if I remember right the elevators in Mirrors Edge had info screens inside them that gave a little backstory on the City and the people in power.

Penn · 11-06-2013 4:44pm

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

i heard people saying the same about mass effect... what is it about them that pissed people off? it's exactly the same as a loading screen only it doesn't break the immersion as much.. honestly can't see a single problem with them.

It genuinely broke my immersion more than a loading screen. It's a free-running game and the claim was made that there'd be no loading screens. Then each level manages to put you in an elevator where you can still move (even though it's completely pointless to do so) which makes the loading take even longer than a loading screen would have.

Why have a game where your character is an incredible free-runner, and force her into an elevator in every level and have her just need to stand there and do nothing which, seeing as how you're able to move feels a lot longer than a loading screen would.

In your first playthrough when you don't realise the elevators are replacements for loading screens in the first few levels, you're sitting waiting to play, being ready to exit the elevator at any second. And it's incredibly frustrating having to wait and not know how much longer you've to wait for. With a loading screen, they could show the first few seconds of the elevator, then have loading screen, then the last few seconds of the elevator, and you'd know you're about to play again.

It's obviously not a game-breaker, but I found it genuinely annoying and cheap.

Zero-Cool · 12-06-2013 12:53pm

Wow Mirrors Edge is class!

ConFurioso · 12-06-2013 1:07pm

One of us......one of us.......

Breaking it out again tonight for the craic!

Ryuji_w · 12-06-2013 6:32pm

open world mirror's edge :eek::eek::eek::eek:
i want :P

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/413684/mirrors-edge-2-is-open-world-says-ea-exec/

Captain Chaos · 12-06-2013 9:33pm

Ryuji_w wrote: »

open world mirror's edge :eek::eek::eek::eek:
i want :P

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/413684/mirrors-edge-2-is-open-world-says-ea-exec/

Not sure if that will be good or bad. I'm just stoked that it's being made. Didn't think EA would give DICE the backing to make a second.

Timmyctc · 13-06-2013 12:04am

Similar link to above but .. more action adventure than original

ConFurioso · 13-06-2013 12:15am

Captain Chaos wrote: »

Not sure if that will be good or bad. I'm just stoked that it's being made. Didn't think EA would give DICE the backing to make a second.

Seconded on both counts!

Open world sounds risky, but if get can pull off the feel of the first one in a big sandbox....random speed runs around the city? Contained, replayable levels in the main story?

Also....it's hard to believe they'll make an open world game without guns....

valleyoftheunos · 13-06-2013 10:34am

Mirror's Edge 2 Producer wrote:

"I think we missed completely on the game being too difficult, people keep falling down and the notion of constantly running away wasn't maybe greatly perceived. On top of that there were a bunch of other problems with it, but again we look at what's great with it, we do more of that and we fix the things that were broken."

Prepare for Combat:(

I played through the Original twice and I think I shot 4 or 5 guys between both and maybe disarmed a similar amount, I don't want that to change for the sequal

Genghiz Cohen · 13-06-2013 11:29am

I'd actually like to see how a kind of Batman:AA/C combat would work, where you are diving around a group of badguys disarming and stunning them just long enough to get away.

VinLieger · 13-06-2013 12:28pm

Genghiz Cohen wrote: »

I'd actually like to see how a kind of Batman:AA/C combat would work, where you are diving around a group of badguys disarming and stunning them just long enough to get away.

Cant see it working in first person though

krudler · 13-06-2013 4:00pm

valleyoftheunos wrote: »

Prepare for Combat:(

I played through the Original twice and I think I shot 4 or 5 guys between both and maybe disarmed a similar amount, I don't want that to change for the sequal

yeah constantly running from enemies was brilliant, such an underrated game

J. Marston · 13-06-2013 4:02pm

I liked running away. Running away sliding under and jumping over obstacles with bullets whizzing past you is much better than ducking in cover before peeking out and firing off a few rounds.

13-06-2013 8:39pm

is the dlc on the first one worth buying? always held off on buying it. I have an xbox. On ps3 it was given away free - feckers!

Genghiz Cohen · 01-07-2013 12:37pm

Welp, theres my excitement gone.

Thanks EA.

gizmo · 01-07-2013 1:01pm

Genghiz Cohen wrote: »

Thanks EA.

If only they had listened to the millions of people who went out and bought it on release instead. Oh, wait...

As for Sarkeesian, well she spoke at DICE last year and her influence was supposedly going to be seen in MoH: Warfighter also. Judging by how that turned out I imagine EA are taking her as seriously as most other people. Which is to say they aren't at all.

As for the second image/comment my only hope is that they identify what actually caused most gamer's frustrations, the frequent instances of awkward level design, rather than dramatically altering the non-confrontational free-running nature of the game.

J. Marston · 01-07-2013 1:29pm

How simple must she be if she thought jumping and running were difficult? If you were going for time-trials, then I'm sure there's some tricky techniques you could use to get the best time but I can't remember the story mode ever putting you in a position where you couldn't continue due to a jump or wall run etc being to hard.

"I can relate to a lot of fellow female gamers who did not get into this game due to its difficult control scheme."

Why would girls have found the control scheme harder? And what exactly was so difficult about it?!

Timmyctc · 01-07-2013 1:36pm

J. Marston wrote: »

How simple must she be if she thought jumping and running were difficult? If you were going for time-trials, then I'm sure there's some tricky techniques you could use to get the best time but I can't remember the story mode ever putting you in a position where you couldn't continue due to a jump or wall run etc being to hard.

"I can relate to a lot of fellow female gamers who did not get into this game due to its difficult control scheme."

Why would girls have found the control scheme harder? And what exactly was so difficult about it?!

Trying to do TWO things at once? Madness. Women are clearly notorious at multitasking too :P

Radiosonde · 01-07-2013 1:43pm

One, the combat should be removed altogether, except maybe for smacking the odd enemy in the face. Surely the point of a free-running heroine is that she evades combat, not engages in it.

Two, open world? I'd prefer tight linear levels and a good story (honestly, open worlds and stories seldom complement each other) to yet another baggy, banal sandbox.

VinLieger · 01-07-2013 2:16pm

J. Marston wrote: »

How simple must she be if she thought jumping and running were difficult? If you were going for time-trials, then I'm sure there's some tricky techniques you could use to get the best time but I can't remember the story mode ever putting you in a position where you couldn't continue due to a jump or wall run etc being to hard.

"I can relate to a lot of fellow female gamers who did not get into this game due to its difficult control scheme."

Why would girls have found the control scheme harder? And what exactly was so difficult about it?!

Sarkeesian realised Mirrors Edge existence completely destroys her argument about strong female protaganists so she had to find something else wrong with it and effectively called herself and every other female gamer out there stupid in doing so

wyrn · 01-07-2013 2:33pm

J. Marston wrote: »

How simple must she be if she thought jumping and running were difficult? If you were going for time-trials, then I'm sure there's some tricky techniques you could use to get the best time but I can't remember the story mode ever putting you in a position where you couldn't continue due to a jump or wall run etc being to hard.

"I can relate to a lot of fellow female gamers who did not get into this game due to its difficult control scheme."

Why would girls have found the control scheme harder? And what exactly was so difficult about it?!

Timmyctc wrote: »

Trying to do TWO things at once? Madness. Women are clearly notorious at multitasking too :P

I'm a PC gamer. I have had a number of consoles in the past and the only I still have/use is an xbox. I rarely use xbox as I find the controls awkward, I always get jumping and action buttons mixed up. I'm a PC gamer at heart.

Anywho, I loved Mirror's Edge. So much so that I have it for xbox and Steam (damn sales!). I played both simultaneously, in fact, it was easier on console. She certainly doesn't speak for me and I am a terrible gamer.

I got into the game because of the graphics (and colour scheme), atmosphere and the fresh take it took. To be honest, there's not much to the game, mainly a lot of leaping and rolling, not to mention the odd grabbing.

Timmyctc · 01-07-2013 2:37pm

wyrn wrote: »

I'm a PC gamer. I have had a number of consoles in the past and the only I still have/use is an xbox. I rarely use xbox as I find the controls awkward, I always get jumping and action buttons mixed up. I'm a PC gamer at heart.

Anywho, I loved Mirror's Edge. So much so that I have it for xbox and Steam (damn sales!). I played both simultaneously, in fact, it was easier on console. She certainly doesn't speak for me and I am a terrible gamer.

I got into the game because of the graphics (and colour scheme), atmosphere and the fresh take it took. To be honest, there's not much to the game, mainly a lot of leaping and rolling, not to mention the odd grabbing.

Merp. Im being sarcastic. The game is straightforward. I always thought the control system was very simplistic, thats part of the reason i loved it. Sarkeesian, to me, symbolises everything that is wrong in gaming and journalism and feminism all rolled into one quite irritating bundle.

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