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Bangernomics car of the week/day part III

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 890 ✭✭✭dh0011


    i think its a dent


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 346 ✭✭DAZP93


    http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/5151773

    I have a funny feeling we might see some e60's in here in a very short time..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭Max Power1


    DAZP93 wrote: »
    http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/5151773

    I have a funny feeling we might see some e60's in here in a very short time..
    I've seen early (03-04) e60 petrols going for 3 grand so it wont be very long before they are bangernomic territory!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,578 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    3k will get you a fairly knackered one. I'd say at least a full year from now until the first E60 bangernomics (with NCT and without issues) or I'll eat my hat...


    ...Might come to regret that. I wonder what hats taste like :p

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭Max Power1


    unkel wrote: »
    3k will get you a fairly knackered one. I'd say at least a full year from now until the first E60 bangernomics (with NCT and without issues) or I'll eat my hat...


    ...Might come to regret that. I wonder what hats taste like :p

    Quoted for posterity!

    Although I agree. Actual e60 examples will be "bangernomicable" soon, i would say 12-18 months too


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,490 ✭✭✭Seweryn


    DAZP93 wrote: »
    http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/5151773

    I have a funny feeling we might see some e60's in here in a very short time..
    I still prefer the E39 much more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,247 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    Max Power1 wrote: »
    Quoted for posterity!

    Although I agree. Actual e60 examples will be "bangernomicable" soon, i would say 12-18 months too

    considering the more complicated computer coding, model launch issues and cost of some parts , Id probably avoid 03-04 e60's in the same way Its a good idea to avoid 02-03 e65 7 series. Just because somethings cheap doesn't make it a bargain.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,372 ✭✭✭Saab Ed




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,578 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Saab Ed wrote: »
    View2-20539489.jpeg

    Spent a few days driving / co-piloting one in Italy, across the Alps and on the Autobahn last week. Ours had the proper 3l V6 Alfa Busso engine though :D

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,903 ✭✭✭✭Toyotafanboi


    http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/5155946

    just had a clutch and service :) realistically though not too much test and probably galactic mileage. could be worth a look though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,679 ✭✭✭✭wonski


    http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/5155946

    just had a clutch and service :) realistically though not too much test and probably galactic mileage. could be worth a look though.

    Price is good, but what kind of project it was to work on Primera?
    New clutch and full service is worth more than 300 euro, so what was the point of the "project"?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,903 ✭✭✭✭Toyotafanboi


    http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/5157208

    7 months NCT. nicely styled car, alloys, front fogs, air con, half leather, all electrics. €1000 asking.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭MidlandsM


    http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/5157208

    7 months NCT. nicely styled car, alloys, front fogs, air con, half leather, all electrics. €1000 asking.

    nicely styled>?>> ughhhhhh


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 890 ✭✭✭dh0011


    are they the rovers with the honda engine or is it one of the less reliable rover ones?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,903 ✭✭✭✭Toyotafanboi


    i suppose styling is a matter of opinion but i personally think most of the range of "Z" series cars were quite handsome.

    its a rover with the K-series engine. not half as unreliable as bar stools would have you believe. aside from the dreaded head gasket, they are actually a really good go-er, we had one in the family for years, rarely gave any trouble.

    i don't think any rover has had a honda engine for nearly 20 years now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,728 ✭✭✭✭CianRyan


    http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/5157208

    7 months NCT. nicely styled car, alloys, front fogs, air con, half leather, all electrics. €1000 asking.

    At least we know where SH's spoiler went.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,773 ✭✭✭Ded_Zebra




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,978 ✭✭✭✭dgt




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7 ktown




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,605 ✭✭✭toastedpickles


    The VRT probably


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,773 ✭✭✭Ded_Zebra


    It's registered in the wrong country. It has no tax or test (that are relevant here)
    The next problem is that I just don't like them. Look clean enough though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,578 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Aye, it's well outside the definition we must use for bangernomics

    That said, a cheeky offer of €1.944 minus €550 VRT, plus a €55 NCT would bring it into bangernomics. Yeah, I know. This won't happen :)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,291 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Vrt came up at 778 for me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,578 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Not surprised. The €550 sounded too cheap for a Cooper

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,525 ✭✭✭JohnBoy26


    dh0011 wrote: »
    are they the rovers with the honda engine or is it one of the less reliable rover ones?
    These have the far less reliable rover k series units, in fact no 45/ZS had a Honda engine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,585 ✭✭✭ba_barabus


    JohnBoy26 wrote: »
    These have the far less reliable rover k series units, in fact no 45/ZS had a Honda engine.

    The earlier 1.6 Rover 400 with an auto box did. I think it was the last Rover to have a Honda engine but am happy to stand corrected


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,578 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    JohnBoy26 wrote: »
    These have the far less reliable rover k series units

    The k-series engine was an excellent engine in its day. Don't believe all the pub talk from people who haven't got a clue :)

    Very light weight, easy revving but yes, if something went wrong cooling the engine the head gasket would fail and there would be trouble.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,525 ✭✭✭JohnBoy26


    ba_barabus wrote: »
    The earlier 1.6 Rover 400 with an auto box did. I think it was the last Rover to have a Honda engine but am happy to stand corrected
    Yes you are correct they had a d series Honda 1.6 sohc. I however never mentioned a 400 series though. The rover 45 never had a Honda engine even in auto form and neither did the mg zs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,585 ✭✭✭ba_barabus


    JohnBoy26 wrote: »
    Yes you are correct they had a d series Honda 1.6 sohc. I however never mentioned a 400 series though. The rover 45 never had a Honda engine even in auto form and neither did the mg zs.

    I never said the 45/ZS did either ;)

    I was just saying the 400 was the last to have one.

    Still makes me chuckle though when its included in an ad that the the 75/45/25 etc have the Honda or BMW engine


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,525 ✭✭✭JohnBoy26


    unkel wrote: »
    The k-series engine was an excellent engine in its day. Don't believe all the pub talk from people who haven't got a clue :)

    Very light weight, easy revving but yes, if something went wrong cooling the engine the head gasket would fail and there would be trouble.
    My comment was based on first hand experience with these engines and not what's been said down the pub :p.


    On paper they are an excellent engine and when working correctly are a nice engine to use, however they are soft and very fragile andeven the best maintained engine can and do suffer from things like premature hg failure(not just due to a poor cooling system but also because of a poorly designed and manufactured block and the long bolts setup).

    A modified headgasket can however be got along with a few other modified parts to prevent this but this modification at best will only postpone the inevitable.

    These engines can also suffer from dropped liners, premature and frequent starter motor failure and almost all I have seen had developed noisy tappets.

    In reality it's hard to make a strong argument to buy a rover 45/ZS when if you really want one of these you can have the equivalent albeit older better built Civic with the ultra reliable honda d series engine which has all the revvy characteristics. Of the k series rover engine.


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