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Irish woman raped in India

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  • #2
    The King of Moo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    DenMan wrote: »
    Poor woman. I'm so angry! India and its backward patriarchal society should be made to pay for its evil and heinous crimes! :mad:

    http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/indian-police-investigating-rape-of-irish-woman-make-an-arrest-596453.html

    What happened to the woman is terrible, and India has a lot of troubles to sort out, but I don't see why one specific case involving an Irish person should be the catalyst for this change, and it may not be fair to blame India's larger problems for this one particular case.

    The police have made an arrest, and hopefully justice will be served and the victim recovers as well as she can.


  • #3
    The Aussie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,440 ✭✭✭The Aussie


    Not again.

    India Rape Thread #12 (not being funny at all at all))


  • #4
    IM0
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭IM0


    DenMan wrote:
    irish woman ALLEGEDLY raped in india

    fixed that for you


  • #5
    Thomas20
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 135 ✭✭Thomas20


    DenMan wrote: »
    I'm so angry! India and its backward patriarchal society should be made to pay for its evil and heinous crimes! :mad:
    :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
    Smash the paytreearkeeeee!!11!!!!!1


  • #6
    DenMan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,395 ✭✭✭DenMan


    The King of Moo wrote: »
    What happened to the woman is terrible, and India has a lot of troubles to sort out, but I don't see why one specific case involving an Irish person should be the catalyst for this change, and it may not be fair to blame India's larger problems for this one particular case.

    The police have made an arrest, and hopefully justice will be served and the victim recovers as well as she can.

    If continuous case by cases are ignored then change will never happen! With so much corruption in the Indian police then without outside interference this will unfortunately continue to happen!


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  • #7
    Boombastic
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,496 ✭✭✭Boombastic


    The King of Moo wrote: »
    What happened to the woman is terrible, and India has a lot of troubles to sort out, but I don't see why one specific case involving an Irish person should be the catalyst for this change, and it may not be fair to blame India's larger problems for this one particular case.

    The police have made an arrest, and hopefully justice will be served and the victim recovers as well as she can.

    It could be possible, but I doubt it. What happened to an Indian woman was a catalyst for change here.


  • #8
    Riddle101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,565 ✭✭✭Riddle101


    DenMan wrote: »
    Poor woman. I'm so angry! India and its backward patriarchal society should be made to pay for its evil and heinous crimes! :mad:

    http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/indian-police-investigating-rape-of-irish-woman-make-an-arrest-596453.html

    That's a bit harsh. That would be like saying all of Ireland should pay for what the IRA did. India is no different to any country IMO. You can get raped anywhere.


  • #9
    jam_mac_jam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,733 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    DenMan wrote: »
    Poor woman. I'm so angry! India and its backward patriarchal society should be made to pay for its evil and heinous crimes! :mad:

    http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/indian-police-investigating-rape-of-irish-woman-make-an-arrest-596453.html

    Made to pay? a whole billion people?


  • #10
    DenMan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,395 ✭✭✭DenMan


    jam_mac_jam wrote: »
    Made to pay? a whole billion people?

    No just the Government and how the country is ran!


  • #11
    jam_mac_jam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,733 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    DenMan wrote: »
    No just the Government and how the country is ran!

    Oh right, that's much more sensible then.


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  • #12
    Czarcasm
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    Boombastic wrote: »
    It could be possible, but I doubt it. What happened to an Indian woman was a catalyst for change here.


    Not wishing to be smart Boom but absolutely nothing has changed. People said the same when the X case happened that it would be the catalyst for "change", and that was over 20 years ago.

    All that will happen in this case is yet again political platitudes will be given, a few column inches will be filled in newspapers, Facebook "campaigns" will kick off for a bit, and by next month there'll be something else happening somewhere else in the world to distract the righteous from having to acknowledge half the problems happening on their own doorstep.


  • #13
    Killer Wench
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,386 ✭✭✭Killer Wench


    Reading this article, I have the impression that this was possibly a date rape whereas the other stories involved gang rape then physical mutilation. Rape is an egregious crime regardless if it is committed by a friend, husband, co-worker or a gang of strangers, but there is something about the mutilation committed against the women that truly leaves me enraged.


  • #14
    Pumpkinseeds
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,635 ✭✭✭Pumpkinseeds


    A horrible thing to happen to anyone but Jesus Christ when are foreign women going to learn to stay the Hell out of that sh*thole country. Did the she not hear about the rape epidemic in India? What the Hell was she thinking going off with him?

    Before anyone suggests otherwise, I am not for one moment saying that she deserved it. I just don't get the stupidity of it.


  • #15
    mcwinning
    Closed Accounts Posts: 88 ✭✭mcwinning


    Poor girl, rape is awful enough without being 1000s of miles away from home/family support.


  • #16
    ArtSmart
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,610 ✭✭✭ArtSmart


    Most female travellers i know who been to India describe it as very safe, compared to say.....Ireland.


    bit OTT response OP


    . As societal change, 'bout 100-150 years i reckon, but that really has nothing to do with rape per se. By that logic, 'liberated' first world countries should be rape free. Which they aint.


  • #17
    Son Of A Vidic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    DenMan wrote: »
    No just the Government and how the country is ran!

    Never mind focusing on India. We might be better served, applying the same approach to the clowns running our own country.


  • #18
    St.Spodo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,027 ✭✭✭St.Spodo


    Czarcasm wrote: »
    Not wishing to be smart Boom but absolutely nothing has changed. People said the same when the X case happened that it would be the catalyst for "change", and that was over 20 years ago.

    All that will happen in this case is yet again political platitudes will be given, a few column inches will be filled in newspapers, Facebook "campaigns" will kick off for a bit, and by next month there'll be something else happening somewhere else in the world to distract the righteous from having to acknowledge half the problems happening on their own doorstep.

    I don't agree with this. Legislation is imminent, which is something. More importantly, though, it raised people's levels of consciousness; people are thinking about it and are proud to be pro-choice on this issue. As heartbreaking and tragic as Savita's death was, I think it will be seen as a catalyst in years to come. I hope I'm right.


  • #19
    biko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,060 ✭✭✭✭biko


    I read somewhere female tourism to India is down 25% since the bus rape of that unfortunate woman.

    Edit, 35% - link http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/01/17553769-female-tourists-shun-india-after-gang-rape-murder?lite


  • #20
    Anynama141
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    I wonder will this get as much coverage in India as the case of the unfortunate Savita Halappanavar, where Ireland was cast as a land of savages?


  • #21
    o1s1n
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,970 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Anynama141 wrote: »
    I wonder will this get as much coverage in India as the case of the unfortunate Savita Halappanavar, where Ireland was cast as a land of savages?

    Why does it matter? Both cases are disgusting - they don't need to be compared.


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  • #22
    Anynama141
    Closed Accounts Posts: 964 ✭✭✭Anynama141


    o1s1n wrote: »
    Why does it matter? Both cases are disgusting - they don't need to be compared.
    Who is comparing? I'm just wondering if the papers in India will give this story any coverage. I'm rather resentful of the tone they took when reporting Savita's case, as if everyone in Ireland wasn't horrified by it.


  • #23
    Czarcasm
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    St.Spodo wrote: »
    I don't agree with this. Legislation is imminent, which is something. More importantly, though, it raised people's levels of consciousness; people are thinking about it and are proud to be pro-choice on this issue. As heartbreaking and tragic as Savita's death was, I think it will be seen as a catalyst in years to come. I hope I'm right.


    St.Spodo I'd love to say you were right, but legislation has been "imminent" we were told since the X case 20 years ago, and many high profile cases since then. People have been conscious that politicians have played political football with the issue for the last 20 years, people have been aware, and have been calling for change for the last 20 years, and each time the government of the day says "soon now, we'll legislate soon, when you vote us into government", and each time the people have fallen for it.

    In saying that, what happened in this case in India is no reflection of Indian culture any more than one case of rape in Ireland is a reflection of Irish culture.

    Even as I write this right now, chances are there are numerous rapes happening in Ireland that will never be highlighted in the media.

    Does anyone honestly think reporting single incidents like this on the international stage will change the attitudes and culture of a country of seven million people, let alone the attitudes and culture of a country of one seventh of the world's population!


  • #24
    up for anything
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    Pumpkinseeds wrote: »
    A horrible thing to happen to anyone but Jesus Christ when are foreign women going to learn to stay the Hell out of that sh*thole country. Did the she not hear about the rape epidemic in India? What the Hell was she thinking going off with him?

    Before anyone suggests otherwise, I am not for one moment saying that she deserved it. I just don't get the stupidity of it.

    You might not be saying that she deserved it but in three sentences in your post you have apportioned blame/stupidity to her.

    You don't know the details surrounding the rape. Maybe he was someone she worked with and trusted and therefore didn't see any danger in going to his house. He was most likely a wolf in sheep's clothing. Judging by their disparate ages I doubt they were dating/on a date, more probably a work night out. She probably wouldn't have thought twice about it. [/conjecture]


  • #25
    Capt'n Midnight
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    jam_mac_jam wrote: »
    Made to pay? a whole billion people?
    even if it's only a rupee each it still adds up


  • #26
    starling
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭starling


    Pumpkinseeds wrote: »
    A horrible thing to happen to anyone but Jesus Christ when are foreign women going to learn to stay the Hell out of that sh*thole country. Did the she not hear about the rape epidemic in India? What the Hell was she thinking going off with him?

    Before anyone suggests otherwise, I am not for one moment saying that she deserved it. I just don't get the stupidity of it.

    So you're not saying she deserved it, but you are saying she was stupid to go to India and that she should have expected to get raped...,, that's pretty standard victim blaming right there


  • #27
    [Deleted User]
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    We have had horrible things happen to tourists in this country too. That young girl Manuela Riedo , Sophie Tuscan Du Plantier.

    Hope the girl in question gets some support, being so far from home.


  • #28
    jam_mac_jam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,733 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    Pumpkinseeds wrote: »
    A horrible thing to happen to anyone but Jesus Christ when are foreign women going to learn to stay the Hell out of that sh*thole country. Did the she not hear about the rape epidemic in India? What the Hell was she thinking going off with him?

    Before anyone suggests otherwise, I am not for one moment saying that she deserved it. I just don't get the stupidity of it.

    wow, normally its what clothes you wear, or how much you drank. Now if you visit a country it is somehow your fault. That's a new one. You don't get the stupidity of it? Whose stupidity exactly? The rapist's?


  • #29
    starling
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    Jake1 wrote: »
    We have had horrible things happen to tourists in this country too. That young girl Manuela Riedo , Sophie Tuscan Du Plantier.

    Hope the girl in question gets some support, being so far from home.

    I will now take one for the team and make the obligatory and not at all unexepected point that there is a fair amount of xenophobia in this thread...

    *ducks*

    Edit: Xenophobia's probably more accurate than racism. Also ignorance of the facts and random conjecture. And of course the obligatory victim blaming.


  • #30
    Israeli Superiority
    Closed Accounts Posts: 365 ✭✭Israeli Superiority


    My ma and I were thinking of going there after Christmas. I think I'll leave her behind because I'm staying there for a few months and she'll have to make her way back to Ireland alone.


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  • #31
    Anynama141
    Closed Accounts Posts: 964 ✭✭✭Anynama141


    jam_mac_jam wrote: »
    wow, normally its what clothes you wear, or how much you drank. Now if you visit a country it is somehow your fault. That's a new one. You don't get the stupidity of it? Whose stupidity exactly? The rapist's?
    I agree with you, but I can see the point he's making even if I disagree with it.

    I you leave your windows open when you go on holiday, it doesn't mean it's suddenly ok to rob your house. But it's smarter to close the windows.


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