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Silage thread

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭delaval


    hugo29 wrote: »
    Grazing paddocks got slurry and 1 bag 10-10-20 to acre to date,
    Hard to call with silage, dedicated silage ground is light at moment but was heavily fert last weekend and is coming last few days
    Will need grazing paddocks back in rotation in 3 weeks after cutting
    I would be in favour of heavy fert early in the season (front loading).
    You need at least 40 units blanket on all grazing ground and you will have lots of grass and bales. I would go with a bag of urea as you only have 10:eek: units out.
    If uncomfortable with urea you could use a compound but blanket with plenty of N. You can spread in paddock where cattle are grazing or even in a paddock you are aout to take out


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,267 ✭✭✭hugo29


    delaval wrote: »
    I would be in favour of heavy fert early in the season (front loading).
    You need at least 40 units blanket on all grazing ground and you will have lots of grass and bales. I would go with a bag of urea as you only have 10:eek: units out.
    If uncomfortable with urea you could use a compound but blanket with plenty of N. You can spread in paddock where cattle are grazing or even in a paddock you are aout to take out

    Could not go heavy with N earlier as it was all limed with 2 ton/acre in feb, also there must have been some N value in slurry, I know weather was cold.

    Will go out now with some N, would CAN not be better


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭delaval


    hugo29 wrote: »
    Could not go heavy with N earlier as it was all limed with 2 ton/acre in feb, also there must have been some N value in slurry, I know weather was cold.

    Will go out now with some N, would CAN not be better
    Urea is 30% cheaper per kg N. Only downside ground need to be damp or rain on way. N is no prob with lime only Urea but you are safe if limed in Feb..
    Load it on best growth of the year at the mo make the most of it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,173 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    Is it better to go with a compound like 18-6-12 after taking out first cut? Do lads wait til grass comes on a bit to see tracks? Never spread bag before on aftergrass


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭delaval


    Muckit wrote: »
    Is it better to go with a compound like 18-6-12 after taking out first cut? Do lads wait til grass comes on a bit to see tracks? Never spread bag before on aftergrass
    Get it out immediatly. I would recommend before slurry
    Do you really need to see tracks trust youself you've done it loads of time.
    You should be able to use the lines of the mower just be careful if there is short ground in the middle of a set'


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 160 ✭✭Pat the lad


    quote;Do lads wait til grass comes on a bit to see tracks? Never spread bag before on aftergrass



    start at one ditch and keep going up and down until you reach the opposite ditch, rather than going around the field


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 590 ✭✭✭Justjens


    Made a start today, one week later than last year.

    8' J Deerie moco in new livery, (buttercup yellow:D) IMO it looks better:)

    31513001_zpsd85c1fdf.jpg

    Lovely view.....

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,173 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    F**kin buttercups everywhere this year! :mad: Will you spray for them in the aftergrass or no? That mower is cutting very cleanly btw


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,267 ✭✭✭hugo29


    Muckit wrote: »
    F**kin buttercups everywhere this year! :mad: Will you spray for them in the aftergrass or no? That mower is cutting very cleanly btw

    I noticed that the more CAN the more buttercups, maybe just coincidence


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,433 ✭✭✭darragh_haven


    Tractor full of diesel, oil checked in engine and back end, mower greased and blades on. Gunning for grass. Was all set to start knocking grass tomorrow and cant now. Looks like I'll do it after 10:30 mass on Sunday. Better to get god on side.......


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 590 ✭✭✭Justjens


    Muckit wrote: »
    F**kin buttercups everywhere this year! :mad: Will you spray for them in the aftergrass or no? That mower is cutting very cleanly btw

    No spraying here I'm afraid.
    hugo29 wrote: »
    I noticed that the more CAN the more buttercups, maybe just coincidence

    Hasn't seen any CAN in 20 years!!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,063 ✭✭✭restive


    I baled two four acre fields yesterday. I got 46 bales on one field and 27 bales on the second field. The first field had been overseeded spring 2012 and had been closed since September 2012 and the second one was closed since this January.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,173 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    restive wrote: »
    I baled two four acre fields yesterday. I got 46 bales on one field and 27 bales on the second field. The first field had been overseeded spring 2012 and had been closed since September 2012 and the second one was closed since this January.

    Well at least he made a bit of money off you :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 871 ✭✭✭severeoversteer


    delaval wrote: »
    Get it out immediatly. I would recommend before slurry

    would you go immediately on stubble after baling with artificial fert? old boys around here always waited a week to 10 days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,326 ✭✭✭Farmer Pudsey


    would you go immediately on stubble after baling with artificial fert? old boys around here always waited a week to 10 days.

    I go straight away especially with urea as in some places there is a bit of rain forecast early next week. At this time of year grass tends to try to head faster if it has no nitrogen. 1.8-2 units/day until cutting. You could split the application 50Units now and the same in 2-3 weeks time that is 100 units and plan to cut in about 8 weeks. There will be little or no N in the slurry unless you get it out directly before rain 12-24 hours.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭delaval


    Tractor full of diesel, oil checked in engine and back end, mower greased and blades on. Gunning for grass. Was all set to start knocking grass tomorrow and cant now. Looks like I'll do it after 10:30 mass on Sunday. Better to get god on side.......

    Did you change oil in bed?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭delaval


    would you go immediately on stubble after baling with artificial fert? old boys around here always waited a week to 10 days.

    You should have the spreader half empty by now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,979 ✭✭✭dzer2


    delaval wrote: »
    Did you change oil in bed?

    Bit of a personnel Question that:P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,574 ✭✭✭dharn


    Cutting tuesday :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭freedominacup


    delaval wrote: »
    You should have the spreader half empty by now


    You should be down in the pub by now making lads edgy that they haven't even rang the contractor about cutting and you have the fert out for second cut. If you do it right you'll ruin a few guys bank holiday.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 125 ✭✭Lastin


    yes and tell everyone your looking for rain to wash in the fert


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭freedominacup


    Lastin wrote: »
    yes and tell everyone your looking for rain to wash in the fert

    :D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    Justjens wrote: »
    No spraying here I'm afraid.



    Hasn't seen any CAN in 20 years!!
    Organic?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,811 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    Another 52 wraps in the bank from 22 acres and 41 acres in the pit all sealed up.Great days work and also have final cow inseminated after 5 weeks hard slog.Going to crack open a few bottles of bud now and watch lions v the ba bas


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭delaval


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    Another 52 wraps in the bank from 22 acres and 41 acres in the pit all sealed up.Great days work and also have final cow inseminated after 5 weeks hard slog.Going to crack open a few bottles of bud now and watch lions v the ba bas

    How did the pit crop yield. I had some disappointing crop that I will knock on Tues wasn't good enough last week. I spread ASN on it 2 wks ago bumper crop now but really needs to be on the ground. Will cut a batch of 70 on Tues and knock 90 on Fri or Sat all going well.
    Should keep me off the streets.
    Are you taking 2nd cut and what fert will you spread?
    I have no allowance left for compound, will have to get creative I suppose.
    Will you be spreading slurry? I am a little concerned that with weather so dry it will only cake on the ground as it will be slatt slurry on out farm, what do ye think.
    I would usually stop now till back end.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,811 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    delaval wrote: »
    How did the pit crop yield. I had some disappointing crop that I will knock on Tues wasn't good enough last week. I spread ASN on it 2 wks ago bumper crop now but really needs to be on the ground. Will cut a batch of 70 on Tues and knock 90 on Fri or Sat all going well.
    Should keep me off the streets.
    Are you taking 2nd cut and what fert will you spread?
    I have no allowance left for compound, will have to get creative I suppose.
    Will you be spreading slurry? I am a little concerned that with weather so dry it will only cake on the ground as it will be slatt slurry on out farm, what do ye think.
    I would usually stop now till back end.

    Hard to know yet as it was very dry(cut Wednesday turned twice and picked up sat)i reckon about 8 to 9 tonne per acre.it really bulked up well in last 10 days.closing 20 acres for second cut,plan is to get contractor in on Tuesday with the trailing shoe tank and put 3 k gallons of slurry from overground tank on it then bag and a half of pasture award next weekend followed by bag of asn the following weekend and cut in 7 to 8 weeks.grass flying now and dare I say it could do with a drop of rain to freshen things up!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭delaval


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    Hard to know yet as it was very dry(cut Wednesday turned twice and picked up sat)i reckon about 8 to 9 tonne per acre.it really bulked up well in last 10 days.closing 20 acres for second cut,plan is to get contractor in on Tuesday with the trailing shoe tank and put 3 k gallons of slurry from overground tank on it then bag and a half of pasture award next weekend followed by bag of asn the following weekend and cut in 7 to 8 weeks.grass flying now and dare I say it could do with a drop of rain to freshen things up!!

    So could I, but we don't want the moderators banning us!!!!!
    Would you chance putting out slatt slurry at 3k land needs in and a good dose of compound?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,811 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    delaval wrote: »
    So could I, but we don't want the moderators banning us!!!!!
    Would you chance putting out slatt slurry at 3k land needs in and a good dose of compound?

    Would have no issue doing it with trailing shoe tank but no way would I do it with conventional tank.if weather comes as warm as is forecast week n would be all lost and p and k element would all just dry out and stunt growth


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭delaval


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    Would have no issue doing it with trailing shoe tank but no way would I do it with conventional tank.if weather comes as warm as is forecast week n would be all lost and p and k element would all just dry out and stunt growth

    That's as I thought


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,296 ✭✭✭leg wax


    just mowed 17 acres and its as heavy as i have ever seen, right fert paying now.


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