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junkies in nursing homes

  • 01-06-2013 07:41PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35


    is there anyone who thinks this is a good idea?
    apart from the owners of nursing homes who make money[prob extra]out of it.

    i think its a disgrace that that old people who often pay their own way in these places should feel threatened or have to put with their behaviour is a total disgrace and on par with the abuse that goes on in creches.

    not too mention the under staffing that goes on.
    or the tip offs they get when hicwa are about to visit
    for a far too irregular inspection.

    this is going on in naas and im sure plenty of other places.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    WTF are you talking about?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,459 ✭✭✭Chucken


    WTF are you talking about?


    Junkies in nursing homes!

    Keep up will you?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    I am a bit confused as is the op,s post...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    Anyway according to boards all the em junkies are in Dublin...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,381 ✭✭✭nbar12


    i have a radio in my car


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 76,172 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    I've only had the misfortune to be in about, oh, 90 different nursing homes due to work and I also haven't got a bloody clue what the OP is on about.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 768 ✭✭✭PinkLemonade


    My granny worked in a nursing home, she has her name down on the waiting list for when she ll need to go to a nursing home. She obviously thought the level of care was good, it's an awful shame all nursing homes aren't up to scratch


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    nbar12 wrote: »
    i have a radio in my car
    AM or FM?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,606 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    They don't put junkies in nursing homes op...unless they're old junkies and there's no such thing as an old junkie.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 534 ✭✭✭Ericaa


    Since when are junkies kept in nursing homes...?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    My granny worked in a nursing home, she has her name down on the waiting list for when she ll need to go to a nursing home. She obviously thought the level of care was good, it's an awful shame all nursing homes aren't up to scratch



    True,


    Can you get that new pulse radio station from RTE in the car ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,389 ✭✭✭mattjack


    is there anyone who thinks this is a good idea?
    apart from the owners of nursing homes who make money[prob extra]out of it.

    i think its a disgrace that that old people who often pay their own way in these places should feel threatened or have to put with their behaviour is a total disgrace and on par with the abuse that goes on in creches.

    not too mention the under staffing that goes on.
    or the tip offs they get when hicwa are about to visit
    for a far too irregular inspection.

    this is going on in naas and im sure plenty of other places.

    Which Naas you talking about OP ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,459 ✭✭✭Chucken


    mattjack wrote: »
    Which Naas you talking about OP ?

    The one approx 37km from town ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,490 ✭✭✭monflat


    Not sure where you got your information from but SOME NURSING homes now are licensed to take in people from 18 upwards
    This is because of alot of young people have had Road traffic accidents or any otger type of accident who cannot be cared for at home so they do have to go to a nursing home


    Under that fair deal scheme I think ( I could be wrong ) it does not matter if you are fee paying or not there are a certain number of places allocated to people who would be recipients of social welfare and the government make up the remainder of the bill


    Is this what you are asking about OP


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    mattjack wrote: »
    Which Naas you talking about OP ?



    You mean there is more than one :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 kombi.noise


    well it must be the latest fad with the hse
    there are 4 recent arrivals where my girlfriend works
    one has been removed so far after trashing the room he was in.
    and its seems like a 2nd wont be far behind.


    when questioned about it...the owner[who runs 4 or 5 others around the country]
    told staff it was basically none of their buisness and she decides who can be resident.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 76,172 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    monflat wrote: »
    Not sure where you got your information from but SOME NURSING homes now are licensed to take in people from 18 upwards
    This is because of alot of young people have had Road traffic accidents or any otger type of accident who cannot be cared for at home so they do have to go to a nursing home

    Emphasis on some definitely correct there - its extremely few. And I've never heard of one being used for "junkies", only people with extremely serious injuries but who do not need ongoing serious medical care, or severely mentally disabled adults.

    We don't have enough nursing home places in the country for places to be accepting people they don't want to. There is also no logical reason that you'd place someone who doesn't need nursing care in somewhere extremely expensive designed to provide nursing care.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,490 ✭✭✭monflat


    well it must be the latest fad with the hse
    there are 4 recent arrivals where my girlfriend works
    one has been removed so far after trashing the room he was in.
    and its seems like a 2nd wont be far behind.


    when questioned about it...the owner[who runs 4 or 5 others around the country]
    told staff it was basically none of their buisness and she decides who can be resident.

    Well if that junkie is impeding on the life of the other residents they all should be asked if they want to mske a complaint and follow the nursing homes complaints procedure


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 kombi.noise


    monflat wrote: »
    Not sure where you got your information from but SOME NURSING homes now are licensed to take in people from 18 upwards
    This is because of alot of young people have had Road traffic accidents or any otger type of accident who cannot be cared for at home so they do have to go to a nursing home


    Under that fair deal scheme I think ( I could be wrong ) it does not matter if you are fee paying or not there are a certain number of places allocated to people who would be recipients of social welfare and the government make up the remainder of the bill


    Is this what you are asking about OP

    i think they are nearer 40 years old
    its no fair deal for an old person to be afraid to leave their room anymore
    or for staff to listen to relentless incoherent ****e all night


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,389 ✭✭✭mattjack


    realies wrote: »
    You mean there is more than one :eek:

    Yup. There's a big one over yonder.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 kombi.noise


    monflat wrote: »
    Well if that junkie is impeding on the life of the other residents they all should be asked if they want to mske a complaint and follow the nursing homes complaints procedure

    how do u make a complaint if u have alziemers or dementia etc?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,606 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    well it must be the latest fad with the hse
    there are 4 recent arrivals where my girlfriend works
    one has been removed so far after trashing the room he was in.
    and its seems like a 2nd wont be far behind.


    when questioned about it...the owner[who runs 4 or 5 others around the country]
    told staff it was basically none of their buisness and she decides who can be resident.

    Old people and junkies even the HSE wouldn't come up with that one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,687 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    Plastic eyeballs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 kombi.noise


    MYOB wrote: »
    Emphasis on some definitely correct there - its extremely few. And I've never heard of one being used for "junkies", only people with extremely serious injuries but who do not need ongoing serious medical care, or severely mentally disabled adults.

    We don't have enough nursing home places in the country for places to be accepting people they don't want to. There is also no logical reason that you'd place someone who doesn't need nursing care in somewhere extremely expensive designed to provide nursing care.

    there are alot of illogical things going on in this country...
    havent you noticed?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 kombi.noise


    kneemos wrote: »
    Old people and junkies even the HSE wouldn't come up with that one.

    believe what u like


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,459 ✭✭✭Chucken


    well it must be the latest fad with the hse
    there are 4 recent arrivals where my girlfriend works
    one has been removed so far after trashing the room he was in.
    and its seems like a 2nd wont be far behind.


    when questioned about it...the owner[who runs 4 or 5 others around the country]
    told staff it was basically none of their buisness and she decides who can be resident.

    You know that people with head injuries can act out?
    The nursing home I worked in had 1 resident who was 18, who had serious mental issues after a car crash. He regularly wrecked his room. He locked himself in 1 night and set fire to the room. It was pretty horrific tbh

    EDIT: This happened after I had finished working there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,490 ✭✭✭monflat


    how do u make a complaint if u have alziemers or dementia etc?

    The STAFF and families are meant to be advocates for these residents


    If you worked in a nursing home and saw someth goin on that resemble inappropriate behaviour abuse excessive noise impeding on the life of the residents would you turn a blind eye and say ah feck it tis alright to that that person is verbally abusing etc they have dementia they dont matter they dont seem to take notice of the junkie


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 kombi.noise


    theyve got head injuries for sure...
    but not from any car crashes...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,459 ✭✭✭Chucken


    theyve got head injuries for sure...
    but not from any car crashes...

    How do you know that?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 kombi.noise


    Chucken wrote: »
    How do you know that?

    because they are that far gone they couldnt drive...


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