The Boy Who Lived Before

up for anything · 28-05-2013 08:20AM

Tordelback wrote: »

Since age 2 my son has maintained that he came from another planet, complete with descriptions of architecture, economy and language. On being informed that I witnessed his arrival, and there was no spaceship involved, he claimed that he had been de-aged for his mission and placed inside his earth-mother's tummy. As soon as his little sister could talk her got her in on the act, as his superior officer no less. I think the Barra story is about as likely.

At two years old the best any of my four kids could have managed was no, juice NOW and no, never mind descriptions of architecture, economy and language.

Kettleson · 28-05-2013 08:33AM

up for anything wrote: »

At two years old the best any of my four kids could have managed was no, juice NOW and no, never mind descriptions of architecture, economy and language.

Lucky you! In our last house my then 3 year old was always asking me to tell her "who the man at the top of the stairs was". True :eek:

Lando Griffin · 28-05-2013 08:43AM

Iv often felt like i have lived before in a wonderful and distant land dressed only in Banana leaves only to get a dig in the ribs from the OH to tell me mow the f&%#*@% lawn.

Swampy · 28-05-2013 08:54AM

Kettleson wrote: »

Lucky you! In our last house my then 3 year old was always asking me to tell her "who the man at the top of the stairs was". True :eek:

Damn that would be freaky.

The_Gatsby · 28-05-2013 08:56AM

Thread title made me think this was something to do with Harry Potter

Cee-Jay-Cee · 28-05-2013 08:58AM

It isn't true. I've been to Barra and I didn't see any planes on a beach, White House or small boy playing with a dog. Surely I would have seen one of them if they existed??

seamus · 28-05-2013 09:16AM

I'm not sure why they're so amazed that the story hasn't changed. Children's ability to remember and recall the minutest of details should never be underestimated. Just because as adults our aging brains have difficulty retaining clarity, doesn't mean we should assume children do too. Speak to a child who's passionate about something such as a sport or a pop band and you'll be blown away by the amount of tiny trivial information they can recall with crystal clarity.

People will always swear blind that, "He never heard that from me" or, "I have no idea how he could have come up with that", but forget that children are always listening. Even if the child has no idea where the information came from, it still came from somewhere. Chances are this child saw a small snippet of a documentary on Barra or even a radio show and while the parents can't recall that ever occurring, it's something which imprinted on him and stuck with him.

--Kaiser-- · 28-05-2013 09:17AM

So it's a real life Calvin

Cody Pomeray · 28-05-2013 09:20AM

I'm also a little suspicious about something the mother said a few times in the documentary, which was "I'm very 'open'" and "I'm a very open person". This was never expanded upon, but isn't "open" an industry term for those who are prone to claim psychic and other supernatural vision? There was no context for her to be speaking about her wider views on liberalism, for example. It seemed to be a specific reference to the supernatural.

It would have been helpful if the documentary had clarified that, but there were so many instances of bias in the documentary that's not even the biggest issue.

--Kaiser-- · 28-05-2013 09:21AM

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

This isn't the first time I've heard of incidents like this so I'm inclined to believe it. Such experiences are actually quite widely documented, I know I've come across them before.

...as my Dad would say, if you believe that, you'll believe anything

Gambas · 28-05-2013 09:21AM

The boy who made up some stuff

stefan idiot jones · 28-05-2013 09:23AM

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/0552111325/ref=mw_dp_img?is=l

I read this book about twenty years ago. Scary sh! t. One of the best books that I've come across and a true story.
I won't spoil it but check it out if it tickles your fancy.
Reincarnation/Possession and chilling.

--Kaiser-- · 28-05-2013 09:27AM

stefan idiot jones wrote: »

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/0552111325/ref=mw_dp_img?is=l

I read this book about twenty years ago. Scary sh! t. One of the best books that I've come across and a true story.
I won't spoil it but check it out if it tickles your fancy.
Reincarnation/Possession and chilling.

Good stuff, I like a bit of fiction

wandatowell · 28-05-2013 09:28AM

My sister is a teacher near London and one of her students talks to his dead grandmother in class.

She'd be telling him to do bad things and the kid would be freaking out telling his grandmother that he is a good boy and he wont do 'em.

The poor kid is ****ed up. The sis thinks he does it for attention but I dunno.

wandatowell · 28-05-2013 09:30AM

--Kaiser-- wrote: »

Good stuff, I like a bit of fiction

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Exorcist-Blu-ray-Region-Free/dp/B003IHVKRY/ref=sr_1_2?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1369729782&sr=1-2&keywords=the+exorcist

This is a pretty good documentary if you're into that kinda thing

*Sorry pal, its out of stock at the moment

iDave · 28-05-2013 09:31AM

Theres much more interesting mysteries in the universe than worrying about this sh1t

Duggy747 · 28-05-2013 09:32AM

That child psychiatrist, Jim Tucker, is the guy who carries on from Ian Stevenson reincarnation "science" work.

When he's saying things like quantum mechanics carry memories and emotions over and other "sciency" guff then you know you're in Deepak Chopra land which, in itself, will explain a lot.

seamus · 28-05-2013 09:32AM

wandatowell wrote: »

The poor kid is ****ed up. The sis thinks he does it for attention but I dunno.

Younger children often have difficulty with Dualism and the inner monologue - thinking that there's someone else in their head telling them to do things, when it's actually their own inner monologue.

It resolves itself as the mind matures, but can persist for a while longer if people react to the child's claim of talking to someone else.

Wibbs · 28-05-2013 10:37AM

Whatever about life after death and all that stuff, "reincarnation" of a sort might occur, or at least I'd be open to the possibility of it. Why? Well we're still in the dark about consciousness, what makes you the you that observes the world. Some reckon it's an illusion, a trick of the brain. It doesn't appear to be connected to memory as if you lost all memories through a brain injury you'd still be you looking out.

Anyway unless we want to look for magical stuff, consciousness arises in the brain/body. However it might be possible that although each one of us is unique, the process that gives rise to "you looking out" is not that unique and that it can happen more than once in the billions of years the universe has existed and will exist and in the billions of organic systems in the bilions of years of life on this planet and maybe others.. Maybe you were you before(a different you in each case) and will be again. The problem I'd have with classical reincarnation of this kind is the transmission of memories. The chances of brain biochemistry and structure giving rise to a detailed memory map of a previous life would be mindbendingly slim.

Kettleson · 28-05-2013 10:37AM

seamus wrote: »

I'm not sure why they're so amazed that the story hasn't changed. Children's ability to remember and recall the minutest of details should never be underestimated. Just because as adults our aging brains have difficulty retaining clarity, doesn't mean we should assume children do too. Speak to a child who's passionate about something such as a sport or a pop band and you'll be blown away by the amount of tiny trivial information they can recall with crystal clarity.

People will always swear blind that, "He never heard that from me" or, "I have no idea how he could have come up with that", but forget that children are always listening. Even if the child has no idea where the information came from, it still came from somewhere. Chances are this child saw a small snippet of a documentary on Barra or even a radio show and while the parents can't recall that ever occurring, it's something which imprinted on him and stuck with him.

When my eldest, then infant daughter was just about getting her first words, I had the TV silent, reading a book or something while my daughter was playing with toys on the floor. And then she says "Hitler, Hitler".

And there on the TV was a black and white picture of Hitler.

I didn't put that down to anything supernatural, but rather that in the proceeding days or weeks, (probably close to a date of some significant war anniversary, might have been the Normany landings), that she had seen similar programme with the sound on and clocked his name or some other association.

They take it all in.

28-05-2013 10:52AM

I always love the "i dont like this ... Must Ridicule" threads in posts like these

Here is another by the way, found it interesting .....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWCUjx4nI98

Lots more about him if you youtube him.

--Kaiser-- · 28-05-2013 10:56AM

Deleted User wrote: »

I always love the "i dont like this ... Must Ridicule" threads in posts like these

It's more like:
this is utter drivel and only the very gullible and irrational will subscribe to this nonsense....must ridicule

krudler · 28-05-2013 10:57AM

seamus wrote: »

I'm not sure why they're so amazed that the story hasn't changed. Children's ability to remember and recall the minutest of details should never be underestimated. Just because as adults our aging brains have difficulty retaining clarity, doesn't mean we should assume children do too. Speak to a child who's passionate about something such as a sport or a pop band and you'll be blown away by the amount of tiny trivial information they can recall with crystal clarity.

Like this kid rattling of a mountain of trivia about Marvel characters at four years old

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cZSpMqXpmk

michellie · 28-05-2013 11:40AM

I'm not watching all that does the camera crew go to the island ? Or back up anything?

wandatowell · 28-05-2013 11:43AM

michellie wrote: »

I'm not watching all that does the camera crew go to the island ? Or back up anything?

You're on boards at 11:40, so like me you obviously have nothing better to be doing today so watch the damn video yourself and let us know what you think.

G'day mamm

Remmy · 28-05-2013 11:46AM

That's the same spoofer who told Bruce Willis he could see dead people.

--Kaiser-- · 28-05-2013 11:46AM

wandatowell wrote: »

You're on boards at 11:40, so like me you obviously have nothing better to be doing today so watch the damn video yourself and let us know what you think.

G'day mamm

I'd hope that everyone, everywhere and everyhow has something better to do than watch over three quarters of an hour of probably poor documentary on dubious, quasi-paranormal bollox. A common tactic on conspiracy theory sites is to post an hour+ long video and ask 'Whaddya think?' without providing so much of a synopsis. Bore your opponents into submission!

qo2cj1dsne8y4k · 28-05-2013 11:47AM

michellie wrote: »

I'm not watching all that does the camera crew go to the island ? Or back up anything?

Yes they go to the island and the child was right, they landed on the beach. They went to the hotel and the following day they went in search of the family the kid claimed to belong to. They didnt find the house and the historian said there wasn't a family by that name where the child said he lived.

The next day the historian called them back and said he found out more info, and told them where the house was. They didnt tell the kid where they were going, but when they got to the house he was super upset. He knew there was a secret gate that led to the beach.

They found a living relative of the family and in her summer pictures, the dog the boy described was in the photos.

However, there was nobody by his fathers name and the lady did not remember any accidents that killed a father or a child.

28-05-2013 12:24PM

--Kaiser-- wrote: »

It's more like:
this is utter drivel and only the very gullible and irrational will subscribe to this nonsense....must ridicule

going by what you said, it sounds like you have "all" the information regards to this case, not just the video (as that can be edited) I would like to hear how you came to you findings ?

barone · 28-05-2013 12:55PM

watched it all, weird how the kid knew so much about somewhere obscure and isolated, had the name right ,the dog right, the secret gate, the rock pool, the planes landing on the beach , the view from the window..

all could be anywhere in the world but to pick barra and the name of a family that were blow ins to the island and a house in a remote part of that island is pretty hard to believe ..

weird weird weird.

The Boy Who Lived Before

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