The Boy Who Lived Before

Prodigious

This is mad. Kinda scary. The kid in the video reckons he was alive years ago, in a place called Barra, and can remember everything.

Ever since he was two years old and first started talking, Cameron Macauley has told of his life on the island of Barra. Cameron lives with his mum, Norma, in Glasgow. They have never been to Barra.

He tells of a white house, overlooking the sea and the beach, where he would play with his brothers and sisters. He tells of the airplanes that used to land on the beach. He talks about his dog, a black and white dog.

Barra lies off the western coast of Scotland, 220 miles from Glasgow. It can only be reached by a lengthy sea journey or an hour long flight. It is a, distant, outpost of the British Isles and is home to just over a thousand people.

Cameron is now five, and his story has never wavered

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOHfsugF1cI

What d'you make of it?

Amirani

He's messed up in the head.

hatrickpatrick

This isn't the first time I've heard of incidents like this so I'm inclined to believe it. Such experiences are actually quite widely documented, I know I've come across them before.

kingcobra

For a young child he can talk about a lot!

Aint Eazy Being Cheezy

I'm sceptical. I always assume his mother, or somebody, has him prepped on what to say.

Omackeral

*creepy British accent*
"We know all your secrets"





"I hope that's cottage pie in my knickers"

jarvis

Scary sh1t.

AlmightyCushion

"He tells of a white house, overlooking the sea and the beach, where he would play with his brothers and sisters. He tells of the airplanes that used to land on the beach. He talks about his dog, a black and white dog."

Wow, with a story this in depth and detailed it must be true.

Tordelback

Since age 2 my son has maintained that he came from another planet, complete with descriptions of architecture, economy and language. On being informed that I witnessed his arrival, and there was no spaceship involved, he claimed that he had been de-aged for his mission and placed inside his earth-mother's tummy. As soon as his little sister could talk her got her in on the act, as his superior officer no less. I think the Barra story is about as likely.

AlmightyCushion

Tordelback wrote: »

Since age 2 my son has maintained that he came from another planet, complete with descriptions of architecture, economy and language. On being informed that I witnessed his arrival, and there was no spaceship involved, he claimed that he had been de-aged for his mission and placed inside his earth-mother's tummy. As soon as his little sister could talk her got her in on the act, as his superior officer no less. I think the Barra story is about as likely.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-653T_YCtAfI/UBLGabdhoDI/AAAAAAAAAN0/KxmPgZemXTU/s1600/tumblr_l6gjs71SSp1qzmu29o1_500.jpg

Canis Lupus

Child with imagination and who enjoys the attention..... nope, seems legit.

The Backwards Man

I can barely remember my childhood in this lifetime, how the fluck could anyone remember one from another?

Super-Rush

He tells of a white house, overlooking the sea and the beach, where he would play with his brothers and sisters. He tells of the airplanes that used to land on the beach. He talks about his dog, a black and white dog.

He thinks he was one of The Famous Five.

Sam Kade

Couldn't be arsed waiting for that video to load, did anyone think of checking if planes actually landed on the beach in barra what ever year he was supposed to be there. That's if he remembers the year :rolleyes:

Prodigious

No harm in a bit of sceptically, no need for the cynicism though.

Amirani

Prodigious wrote: »

No harm in a bit of sceptically, no need for the cynicism though.

Scepticism is the minimum feeling someone should hold towards the claims.

dubscottie

His story sounds a bit like the Isle of Sula books I read as a kid (being Scottish).. Kelpie was the publisher. Dont know if you can still get them.

donegal_road

I watched this film 2 years ago after hearing a guy on rte radio insist that his 5 year old daughter was reincarnated from a girl in India, accurate descriptions of life there etc.
I have watched some clips on regression through hypnotherapy where a person is sent back in time before they were born, and they assume the life of someone else years previously. A bit like Astral Projection, where your spirit is supposed to leave your body... if you believe in that sort of thing!

JD DABA

Natural to be sceptic. However, theres a Prof Ian Stephenson of Virginia university whos studied it and said it is worthy of further investigation.
He also seems to have support from the university from what Ive seen.

So not to be outlined unconditionally.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k

That's awful creepy, swear to god. Even the historian wasn't sure of the name at first although the child insisted it was true, he got the plane right, the house, the name and the dog.

Sware if any child of mine started spouting that sort of creepy stuff, be shipped out to the nearest orphanage. Would not be able. Am sleeping with the light in the corridor on tonight anyway

Seaneh

Prodigious wrote: »

This is mad. Kinda scary. The kid in the video reckons he was alive years ago, in a place called Barra, and can remember everything.





What d'you make of it?

If he remembers everything so well, why doesn't he speak Scotts-Gaelic like everyone else who's ever lived on the Island?

humberklog

Seaneh wrote: »

If he remembers everything so well, why doesn't he speak Scotts-Gaelic like everyone else who's ever lived on the Island?

Because in 2006 Channel 5 couldn't afford subtitles.

Kettleson

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

"He tells of a white house, overlooking the sea and the beach, where he would play with his brothers and sisters. He tells of the airplanes that used to land on the beach. He talks about his dog, a black and white dog."

Wow, with a story this in depth and detailed it must be true.

Is there a summary of the similarities contained in the video?

I mean it's 45 minutes long and it has to be more than those detailed above, but it would not surprise me in the slightest if there isn't, and I don't want to wate 45 minutes to find out myself.

AlmightyCushion

Kettleson wrote: »

Is there a summary of the similarities contained in the video?

I mean it's 45 minutes long and it has to be more than those detailed above, but it would not surprise me in the slightest if there isn't, and I don't want to wate 45 minutes to find out myself.

I watched about 20 minutes and got nothing more than that. Everyone kept saying how the story was so detailed and that it had to be true because he told it the same every time but that was it. I got bored and turned it off after that.

Killer Wench

I think it would suck to be reincarnated 200 miles away from where you lived before.

Seaneh

Killer Wench wrote: »

I think it would suck to be reincarnated 200 miles away from you lived before.

And in fecking glasgow...

OneArt

Don't let the Bene Gesserit get a hold of that kid.

Kettleson

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

I watched about 20 minutes and got nothing more than that. Everyone kept saying how the story was so detailed and that it had to be true because he told it the same every time but that was it. I got bored and turned it off after that.

Thanks,

I wasted 40 minutes watching a programme about sleep paralysis that channel 4 had bigged up as having supernatural content and a clip of a crusty old priest talking bollix. Never again.

oppenheimer1

Like all crap TV documentaries, just skip 5 mins from the end and you'll get a synopsis of what they discovered.

For those too lazy to do that. The childs story about there being a white house on the island on the beach near some rock pools checks out. The family name he give also checks out.

However the name he gives of the father doesn't, nor how he dies.

Cody Pomeray

The kid picked one of the most common names (Robertson), had the most common type of dog around, and lived in a house the same colour as every other house on the beach in Barra.

Nothing else matches up. I'm not even sure how they managed to squeeze 45 minutes out of this, but I want my 45 minutes back.

Kettleson

Cody Pomeray wrote: »

The kid picked one of the most common names (Robertson), had the most common type of dog around, and lived in a house the same colour as every other house on the beach in Barra.

Nothing else matches up. I'm not even sure how they managed to squeeze 45 minutes out of this, but I want my 45 minutes back.

Oh dear, don't go watching channel 4 documentary 'The Entity', I felt equally mugged. Mind you, the Priest at 24 minutes or so is a gas.

up for anything

Tordelback wrote: »

Since age 2 my son has maintained that he came from another planet, complete with descriptions of architecture, economy and language. On being informed that I witnessed his arrival, and there was no spaceship involved, he claimed that he had been de-aged for his mission and placed inside his earth-mother's tummy. As soon as his little sister could talk her got her in on the act, as his superior officer no less. I think the Barra story is about as likely.

At two years old the best any of my four kids could have managed was no, juice NOW and no, never mind descriptions of architecture, economy and language.

Kettleson

up for anything wrote: »

At two years old the best any of my four kids could have managed was no, juice NOW and no, never mind descriptions of architecture, economy and language.

Lucky you! In our last house my then 3 year old was always asking me to tell her "who the man at the top of the stairs was". True :eek:

Lando Griffin

Iv often felt like i have lived before in a wonderful and distant land dressed only in Banana leaves only to get a dig in the ribs from the OH to tell me mow the f&%#*@% lawn.

Swampy

Kettleson wrote: »

Lucky you! In our last house my then 3 year old was always asking me to tell her "who the man at the top of the stairs was". True :eek:

Damn that would be freaky.

The_Gatsby

Thread title made me think this was something to do with Harry Potter

Cee-Jay-Cee

It isn't true. I've been to Barra and I didn't see any planes on a beach, White House or small boy playing with a dog. Surely I would have seen one of them if they existed??

seamus

I'm not sure why they're so amazed that the story hasn't changed. Children's ability to remember and recall the minutest of details should never be underestimated. Just because as adults our aging brains have difficulty retaining clarity, doesn't mean we should assume children do too. Speak to a child who's passionate about something such as a sport or a pop band and you'll be blown away by the amount of tiny trivial information they can recall with crystal clarity.

People will always swear blind that, "He never heard that from me" or, "I have no idea how he could have come up with that", but forget that children are always listening. Even if the child has no idea where the information came from, it still came from somewhere. Chances are this child saw a small snippet of a documentary on Barra or even a radio show and while the parents can't recall that ever occurring, it's something which imprinted on him and stuck with him.

--Kaiser--

So it's a real life Calvin

Cody Pomeray

I'm also a little suspicious about something the mother said a few times in the documentary, which was "I'm very 'open'" and "I'm a very open person". This was never expanded upon, but isn't "open" an industry term for those who are prone to claim psychic and other supernatural vision? There was no context for her to be speaking about her wider views on liberalism, for example. It seemed to be a specific reference to the supernatural.

It would have been helpful if the documentary had clarified that, but there were so many instances of bias in the documentary that's not even the biggest issue.

--Kaiser--

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

This isn't the first time I've heard of incidents like this so I'm inclined to believe it. Such experiences are actually quite widely documented, I know I've come across them before.

...as my Dad would say, if you believe that, you'll believe anything

Gambas

The boy who made up some stuff

stefan idiot jones

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/0552111325/ref=mw_dp_img?is=l


I read this book about twenty years ago. Scary sh! t. One of the best books that I've come across and a true story.
I won't spoil it but check it out if it tickles your fancy.
Reincarnation/Possession and chilling.

--Kaiser--

stefan idiot jones wrote: »

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/0552111325/ref=mw_dp_img?is=l


I read this book about twenty years ago. Scary sh! t. One of the best books that I've come across and a true story.
I won't spoil it but check it out if it tickles your fancy.
Reincarnation/Possession and chilling.

Good stuff, I like a bit of fiction

wandatowell

My sister is a teacher near London and one of her students talks to his dead grandmother in class.


She'd be telling him to do bad things and the kid would be freaking out telling his grandmother that he is a good boy and he wont do 'em.


The poor kid is ****ed up. The sis thinks he does it for attention but I dunno.

wandatowell

--Kaiser-- wrote: »

Good stuff, I like a bit of fiction

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Exorcist-Blu-ray-Region-Free/dp/B003IHVKRY/ref=sr_1_2?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1369729782&sr=1-2&keywords=the+exorcist


This is a pretty good documentary if you're into that kinda thing




*Sorry pal, its out of stock at the moment

iDave

Theres much more interesting mysteries in the universe than worrying about this sh1t

Duggy747

That child psychiatrist, Jim Tucker, is the guy who carries on from Ian Stevenson reincarnation "science" work.

When he's saying things like quantum mechanics carry memories and emotions over and other "sciency" guff then you know you're in Deepak Chopra land which, in itself, will explain a lot.

seamus

wandatowell wrote: »

The poor kid is ****ed up. The sis thinks he does it for attention but I dunno.

Younger children often have difficulty with Dualism and the inner monologue - thinking that there's someone else in their head telling them to do things, when it's actually their own inner monologue.

It resolves itself as the mind matures, but can persist for a while longer if people react to the child's claim of talking to someone else.

Wibbs

Whatever about life after death and all that stuff, "reincarnation" of a sort might occur, or at least I'd be open to the possibility of it. Why? Well we're still in the dark about consciousness, what makes you the you that observes the world. Some reckon it's an illusion, a trick of the brain. It doesn't appear to be connected to memory as if you lost all memories through a brain injury you'd still be you looking out.

Anyway unless we want to look for magical stuff, consciousness arises in the brain/body. However it might be possible that although each one of us is unique, the process that gives rise to "you looking out" is not that unique and that it can happen more than once in the billions of years the universe has existed and will exist and in the billions of organic systems in the bilions of years of life on this planet and maybe others.. Maybe you were you before(a different you in each case) and will be again. The problem I'd have with classical reincarnation of this kind is the transmission of memories. The chances of brain biochemistry and structure giving rise to a detailed memory map of a previous life would be mindbendingly slim.

Kettleson

seamus wrote: »

I'm not sure why they're so amazed that the story hasn't changed. Children's ability to remember and recall the minutest of details should never be underestimated. Just because as adults our aging brains have difficulty retaining clarity, doesn't mean we should assume children do too. Speak to a child who's passionate about something such as a sport or a pop band and you'll be blown away by the amount of tiny trivial information they can recall with crystal clarity.

People will always swear blind that, "He never heard that from me" or, "I have no idea how he could have come up with that", but forget that children are always listening. Even if the child has no idea where the information came from, it still came from somewhere. Chances are this child saw a small snippet of a documentary on Barra or even a radio show and while the parents can't recall that ever occurring, it's something which imprinted on him and stuck with him.

When my eldest, then infant daughter was just about getting her first words, I had the TV silent, reading a book or something while my daughter was playing with toys on the floor. And then she says "Hitler, Hitler".

And there on the TV was a black and white picture of Hitler.

I didn't put that down to anything supernatural, but rather that in the proceeding days or weeks, (probably close to a date of some significant war anniversary, might have been the Normany landings), that she had seen similar programme with the sound on and clocked his name or some other association.

They take it all in.