Raiders steal tanker from army barracks

Hootanany · 27-05-2013 05:33PM

Has the official report come out yet it should be fun:D

John Mongo · 27-05-2013 06:22PM

IrishFeeney92 wrote: »

very embarrassing for the Defence Forces, one wonders why they were not opened fire upon ramming the gate. protecting Government property and/or the life's of other servicemen allow for a soldier to open fire.

Should of been implemented

Aiken Barracks' front gate is directly opposite a row of civilian houses.

It'd be a very, very risky shot to take.

withless wrote: »

Typically Irish.

Hardly.

http://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/regional/high-grade-military-items-stolen-from-mod-in-ulster-1-5063457

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1158432/MoD-lost-165-pistols-rifles-machine-guns--27-000-rounds-ammunition.html

http://www.imemc.org/article/60265

The above links contain details of various things stolen from the British Army and the Israeli's. The weapon used to kill WPC Rachael Bown in 2006 was stolen from the British Army.

So no, it's not "Typically Irish" at all.

asdfg! wrote: »

No their job is to guard everything on the premises and patrol the barracks. I think that was the whole point of putting the tanker in the barracks. But apparently someone effectively strolled in and drove out the gate without bothering to open it while soldiers armed with assault rifles stood there with their mouths open. Not only that it was a fully loaded truck. Not a Formula one car. Hardly fast and furious.

Not only is it embarrassing but it's a disgrace.

I notice a similar thread on the military forum was deleted. Is this one next?

Nobody "strolled in". It's a barracks right in the middle of Dundalk town, it's not Alcatraz.

One look on Google maps shows that.

John Mongo · 27-05-2013 06:27PM

The real issue for me, has absolutely zero to do with the fact that a truck was taken.

In the past few days, soldiers from two countries the DF serves Overseas in Islamic countries with were attacked, one of those soldiers was killed. On top of that, we still have an internal security issue at home with Dissident groups.

Someone was able to sneak into the barracks when they had no business doing so, steal a truck and go through the front gate.

They could have left a bomb, attempted to steal something far worse than a truck full of diesel or attacked the troops on duty themselves.

**** the truck quite frankly. There's a far bigger lesson to be learned from what happened.

Nforce · 27-05-2013 06:33PM

Didn't something similar happen in Athlone army barracks several years ago? I think it was a truck load of cigarettes in that case?

asdfg! · 27-05-2013 06:35PM

Yes John and that's the real issue. Someone with an interest in more than mere diesel could have got in undetected along with his friends armed with Ak-47s.

It doesn't take much working out what they'd be after.

John Mongo · 27-05-2013 06:38PM

asdfg! wrote: »

Yes John and that's the real issue. Someone with an interest in more than mere diesel could have got in undetected along with his friends armed with Ak-47s.

It doesn't take much working out what they'd be after.

Without a doubt. It's a very sobering thought. The lads on duty got very lucky in the grand scheme of things.

However, there's no doubt in my mind that any possible deficiency with regards to barracks security will be rectified very, very quickly. There shouldn't be a single barracks in population centre's like Dundalk. It limits your ability to build upwards because the civilian population would have a **** fit and leaves far too many variables with regards to possible break in's.

My name is URL · 27-05-2013 06:39PM

It'd have to happen in Louth wouldn't it?! :mad:

snubbleste · 27-05-2013 06:43PM

They didn't hear a thing..army deafness don't you know

hedgehog2 · 27-05-2013 06:51PM

These two must of been on duty

http://www.virginmedia.com/images/Tony-robinson-431x300.jpg

flutered · 27-05-2013 06:53PM

was there not another recovery from the authoritys in recent times.

My name is URL · 27-05-2013 06:56PM

John Mongo wrote: »

Without a doubt. It's a very sobering thought. The lads on duty got very lucky in the grand scheme of things.

However, there's no doubt in my mind that any possible deficiency with regards to barracks security will be rectified very, very quickly. There shouldn't be a single barracks in population centre's like Dundalk. It limits your ability to build upwards because the civilian population would have a **** fit and leaves far too many variables with regards to possible break in's.

Can you clarify what you mean by the bolded part? Are you saying there should be no battalions stationed in built up areas, or that the barracks shouldn't all be contained within the one space?

John Mongo · 27-05-2013 06:56PM

My name is URL wrote: »

Can you clarify what you mean by the bolded part? Are you saying there should be no barracks in built up areas, or that it shouldn't all be contained within the one space?

No barracks in built up area's is what I meant.

iopener · 27-05-2013 06:59PM

that robbery was Militry precision like something out of the A- team. Hannibal would have been proud of it

charlemont · 27-05-2013 07:04PM

Bluefang wrote: »

Yes indeed - Dad's army on guard.

In the early 70's there was "the helicopter song" that went to #1 in the Irish charts, referring to the heli-escape from Mountjoy by members of the IRA, any suggestions for maybe, "the missing tanker song" ?
:D:D:D

We seized a tanker, Oh boy we did.
We' ll put it on auction for a bid..
Behind the big high walls for safe keeping.
Didn't realise the boys were a creepin.
Over the walls they came a leaping.
Where is our tanker ?
Something is wrong
Have a look the fúcking thing is gone.
The gates of the barracks were a busted.
Leaving all the soldiers and the Gardaí a disgusted.

My name is URL · 27-05-2013 07:05PM

John Mongo wrote: »

No barracks in built up area's is what I meant.

Fair enough. Not sure I'd agree with you though. The location of Aiken Barracks has never really been an issue before this theft. They can take place anywhere. I very much doubt those responsible are opportunists who just happened to get lucky either. Would it matter or have made a difference if the barracks was situated outside of the town?

As an aside.. is it common practice for vehicles or their contents to be warehoused in an army compound after seizure by the Gardai?

Nodin · 27-05-2013 07:05PM

asdfg! wrote: »

Yes John and that's the real issue. Someone with an interest in more than mere diesel could have got in undetected along with his friends armed with Ak-47s.

It doesn't take much working out what they'd be after.

....friends and somebody to talk to?

Conmaicne Mara · 27-05-2013 07:10PM

Funniest thing about all of this is the thread (now locked) in the military forum.

Royal Irish · 27-05-2013 07:26PM

This is pretty embarrassing for the defense forces but really though, this theft is so daring, and so unexpected, I wouldn't blame the soldiers at the gate on guard duty. They must have been taken by complete surprise and left gobsmacked.

I'd say they will be taking steps to insure this never happens again like erecting a steel fenced compound within the barracks, or even simply removing random parts from the engines of seized vehicles while being stored there.

humbert · 27-05-2013 07:30PM

Royal Irish wrote: »

This is pretty embarrassing for the defense forces but really though, this theft is so daring, and so unexpected, I wouldn't blame the soldiers at the gate on guard duty. They must have been taken by complete surprise and left gobsmacked.

I'd say they will be taking steps to insure this never happens again like erecting a steel fenced compound within the barracks, or even simply removing random parts from the engines of seized vehicles while being stored there.

I'd say they won't, as another poster has said, this isn't the first time. How vigilant do you have to be to spot a huge articulated truck before it's on top of you?

Wicklowrider · 27-05-2013 07:34PM

--Kaiser-- wrote: »

How embarrassing. What a joke of an army we have

Yes, its not like any other army ever slips up:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maze_Prison_escape Brits

http://goo.gl/yRhQH Yanks

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afghan_War_prisoner_escapes Goonies

27-05-2013 07:35PM

Conmaicne Mara wrote: »

Funniest thing about all of this is the thread (now locked) in the military forum.

Hmmmm Morpheus, Dreams, Sleeping ???

Opinions were not welcome at all.

Fr_Dougal · 27-05-2013 07:38PM

Red Kev wrote: »

Not even the Irish army are that thick as to shoot at a tanker with 20,000 litres of fuel in it. Potentially big bomb there.

Maximus Attractive Whirlwind wrote: »

And that's it in a nut shell.

As embarrassing as it is no one is dead or injured.

No. It was diesel, not C4.

The army were caught with their pants down.

Notorious97 · 27-05-2013 07:45PM

Conmaicne Mara wrote: »

Funniest thing about all of this is the thread (now locked) in the military forum.

Lol funny thread alright, they are killed defending the army in there, well one or two, funny stuff!!

At the end of the day the real concern should be the fact a base belonging to our national army was so easily raided, next time it could be someone with completely different intentions, injuring soldiers, stealing arms, anything!

arybvtcw0eolkf · 27-05-2013 07:54PM

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

The army were caught with their pants down.

You've seen their privates on parade?.

Boombastic · 27-05-2013 07:58PM

It was his tanker, he just didn't want to fill out the forms..

Fr_Dougal · 27-05-2013 08:01PM

Maximus Attractive Whirlwind wrote: »

You've seen their privates on parade?.

No, but I know the UEL and LEL for diesel, and shooting at a tanker of 20,000l of diesel won't make it explode.

arybvtcw0eolkf · 27-05-2013 08:06PM

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

No, but I know the UEL and LEL for diesel, and shooting at a tanker of 20,000l of diesel won't make it explode.

I'm a soldier, and I haven't a bleed'n clue what UEL or LEL even means so in my ignorance I'd have said 'feck this for a game of soldiers, I'm not shooting at that mofo & blowing up half the country

Fr_Dougal · 27-05-2013 08:14PM

Maximus Attractive Whirlwind wrote: »

I'm a soldier, and I haven't a bleed'n clue what UEL or LEL even means so in my ignorance I'd have said 'feck this for a game of soldiers, I'm not shooting at that mofo & blowing up half the country

A soldier...be janey...and here was me thinking you were a Pokemon with gout...

the keen edge · 27-05-2013 08:15PM

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

No, but I know the UEL and LEL for diesel, and shooting at a tanker of 20,000l of diesel won't make it explode.

How's that then Einstein?

arybvtcw0eolkf · 27-05-2013 08:16PM

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

A soldier...be janey...and here was me thinking you were a Pokemon with gout...

Well on a more serious note, gout is a potentially serious medical condition and exceptionally painful.

Its known as 'The rich mans disease' or 'The disease of kings and the king of diseases'.

Its not to be joked about :mad:

Raiders steal tanker from army barracks

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