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Raiders steal tanker from army barracks

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    I would've had this blaring out of the speakers as I burst through the barracks gates and sped away :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,419 ✭✭✭allanb49


    Raiders of the lost tanker just doesn't have a good ring to it though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21 Bluefang


    Yes indeed - Dad's army on guard.

    In the early 70's there was "the helicopter song" that went to #1 in the Irish charts, referring to the heli-escape from Mountjoy by members of the IRA, any suggestions for maybe, "the missing tanker song" ?
    :D:D:D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,061 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    When I saw the headline this morning, at first I thought it said "tank".

    Disappointed. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    Soldiers who were on duty asleep at the barracks entrance were taken by surprise woken up as the tanker was driven at high speed through the gates.
    Fixed the obvious typos in that linked report.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,435 ✭✭✭wandatowell


    balls of steel to try pull that off.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,496 ✭✭✭Boombastic


    The were probably physically and mentally drained after an all night poker session.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,324 ✭✭✭JustAThought


    balls of steel to try pull that off.



    Succeeded !

    How embarrassing for the army.

    Might as well start Decommissioning now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,874 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    balls of steel to try pull that off.
    i'd say they had some laugh after!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    someone watched Fast and Furious 6 :pac:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,689 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    They must be deaf or something?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,435 ✭✭✭wandatowell


    The Army just weren't on the ball. Got caught with their pants down.

    I'd say they just weren't expecting the lads to be so daring.


    oh well :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,461 ✭✭✭--Kaiser--


    How embarrassing. What a joke of an army we have


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 317 ✭✭hedgehog2


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKdic5rBa7g
    Anyone else think this is how the Irish defence forces guard the barracks when they slip into town or catch a few zzzzzz`s


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    Didn't the army take his children in holiday this weekend?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭DipStick McSwindler


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    very embarrassing for the Defence Forces, one wonders why they were not opened fire upon ramming the gate. protecting Government property and/or the life's of other servicemen allow for a soldier to open fire.

    Should of been implemented

    I think you have to be awake to fire your rifle :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,752 ✭✭✭pablomakaveli


    very embarrassing for the Defence Forces, one wonders why they were not opened fire upon ramming the gate. protecting Government property and/or the life's of other servicemen allow for a soldier to open fire.

    Should of been implemented

    I doubt they could open fire unless a life is directly under threat. Protecting property normally isn't reason enough to open fire.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,752 ✭✭✭pablomakaveli


    4 lads in a truck have just rammed government gates and are driving at high speed through a military base, open fire on the wheels......simple

    It's not that simple. If a stray bullet finds its way into a civvie than that soldier has to justify shooting tyres which resulted in an innocent death. It's not a movie.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,741 ✭✭✭withless


    Typically Irish.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,793 ✭✭✭Red Kev


    very embarrassing for the Defence Forces, one wonders why they were not opened fire upon ramming the gate. protecting Government property and/or the life's of other servicemen allow for a soldier to open fire.

    Should of been implemented

    Not even the Irish army are that thick as to shoot at a tanker with 20,000 litres of fuel in it. Potentially big bomb there.

    :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,293 ✭✭✭1ZRed


    Real life GTA? Class!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,609 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    Red Kev wrote: »
    Not even the Irish army are that thick as to shoot at a tanker with 20,000 litres of fuel in it. Potentially big bomb there.

    :D

    And that's it in a nut shell.

    As embarrassing as it is no one is dead or injured.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭DipStick McSwindler


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,721 ✭✭✭flutered


    between mick wallace, the fake rolex, plus now this their boss has some amount of egg on his face.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 294 ✭✭JD DABA


    Someone deserves to have their contract reviewed.

    Seriously.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,689 Mod ✭✭✭✭stevenmu


    very embarrassing for the Defence Forces, one wonders why they were not opened fire upon ramming the gate. protecting Government property and/or the life's of other servicemen allow for a soldier to open fire.

    I doubt there would have been many, if any, soldiers armed at the barracks at the time. AFAIK all weapons would generally be locked in the armoury, and the only armed soldiers on base would be guarding the armoury itself.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,080 ✭✭✭foxinsox


    stevenmu wrote: »
    I doubt there would have been many, if any, soldiers armed at the barracks at the time. AFAIK all weapons would generally be locked in the armoury, and the only armed soldiers on base would be guarding the armoury itself.


    I'd say future raiding piligers and rapers are ****ting themselves at that news..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 104 ✭✭asdfg!


    stevenmu wrote: »
    I doubt there would have been many, if any, soldiers armed at the barracks at the time. AFAIK all weapons would generally be locked in the armoury, and the only armed soldiers on base would be guarding the armoury itself.
    No their job is to guard everything on the premises and patrol the barracks. I think that was the whole point of putting the tanker in the barracks. But apparently someone effectively strolled in and drove out the gate without bothering to open it while soldiers armed with assault rifles stood there with their mouths open. Not only that it was a fully loaded truck. Not a Formula one car. Hardly fast and furious.

    Not only is it embarrassing but it's a disgrace.

    I notice a similar thread on the military forum was deleted. Is this one next?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭humbert


    Red Kev wrote: »
    Not even the Irish army are that thick as to shoot at a tanker with 20,000 litres of fuel in it. Potentially big bomb there.

    :D
    They need to watch more Mythbusters if they fear shooting at it will cause it to explode.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,479 ✭✭✭Hootanany


    Has the official report come out yet it should be fun:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 232 ✭✭John Mongo


    very embarrassing for the Defence Forces, one wonders why they were not opened fire upon ramming the gate. protecting Government property and/or the life's of other servicemen allow for a soldier to open fire.

    Should of been implemented

    Aiken Barracks' front gate is directly opposite a row of civilian houses.

    It'd be a very, very risky shot to take.
    withless wrote: »
    Typically Irish.

    Hardly.

    http://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/regional/high-grade-military-items-stolen-from-mod-in-ulster-1-5063457

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1158432/MoD-lost-165-pistols-rifles-machine-guns--27-000-rounds-ammunition.html

    http://www.imemc.org/article/60265

    The above links contain details of various things stolen from the British Army and the Israeli's. The weapon used to kill WPC Rachael Bown in 2006 was stolen from the British Army.

    So no, it's not "Typically Irish" at all.
    asdfg! wrote: »
    No their job is to guard everything on the premises and patrol the barracks. I think that was the whole point of putting the tanker in the barracks. But apparently someone effectively strolled in and drove out the gate without bothering to open it while soldiers armed with assault rifles stood there with their mouths open. Not only that it was a fully loaded truck. Not a Formula one car. Hardly fast and furious.

    Not only is it embarrassing but it's a disgrace.

    I notice a similar thread on the military forum was deleted. Is this one next?

    Nobody "strolled in". It's a barracks right in the middle of Dundalk town, it's not Alcatraz.

    One look on Google maps shows that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 232 ✭✭John Mongo


    The real issue for me, has absolutely zero to do with the fact that a truck was taken.

    In the past few days, soldiers from two countries the DF serves Overseas in Islamic countries with were attacked, one of those soldiers was killed. On top of that, we still have an internal security issue at home with Dissident groups.

    Someone was able to sneak into the barracks when they had no business doing so, steal a truck and go through the front gate.

    They could have left a bomb, attempted to steal something far worse than a truck full of diesel or attacked the troops on duty themselves.

    **** the truck quite frankly. There's a far bigger lesson to be learned from what happened.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,924 ✭✭✭Nforce


    Didn't something similar happen in Athlone army barracks several years ago? I think it was a truck load of cigarettes in that case?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 104 ✭✭asdfg!


    Yes John and that's the real issue. Someone with an interest in more than mere diesel could have got in undetected along with his friends armed with Ak-47s.

    It doesn't take much working out what they'd be after.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 232 ✭✭John Mongo


    asdfg! wrote: »
    Yes John and that's the real issue. Someone with an interest in more than mere diesel could have got in undetected along with his friends armed with Ak-47s.

    It doesn't take much working out what they'd be after.

    Without a doubt. It's a very sobering thought. The lads on duty got very lucky in the grand scheme of things.

    However, there's no doubt in my mind that any possible deficiency with regards to barracks security will be rectified very, very quickly. There shouldn't be a single barracks in population centre's like Dundalk. It limits your ability to build upwards because the civilian population would have a **** fit and leaves far too many variables with regards to possible break in's.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,126 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    It'd have to happen in Louth wouldn't it?! :mad:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    They didn't hear a thing..army deafness don't you know


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 317 ✭✭hedgehog2




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,721 ✭✭✭flutered


    was there not another recovery from the authoritys in recent times.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,126 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    John Mongo wrote: »
    Without a doubt. It's a very sobering thought. The lads on duty got very lucky in the grand scheme of things.

    However, there's no doubt in my mind that any possible deficiency with regards to barracks security will be rectified very, very quickly. There shouldn't be a single barracks in population centre's like Dundalk. It limits your ability to build upwards because the civilian population would have a **** fit and leaves far too many variables with regards to possible break in's.

    Can you clarify what you mean by the bolded part? Are you saying there should be no battalions stationed in built up areas, or that the barracks shouldn't all be contained within the one space?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 232 ✭✭John Mongo


    Can you clarify what you mean by the bolded part? Are you saying there should be no barracks in built up areas, or that it shouldn't all be contained within the one space?

    No barracks in built up area's is what I meant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 186 ✭✭iopener


    that robbery was Militry precision like something out of the A- team. Hannibal would have been proud of it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,725 ✭✭✭charlemont


    Bluefang wrote: »
    Yes indeed - Dad's army on guard.

    In the early 70's there was "the helicopter song" that went to #1 in the Irish charts, referring to the heli-escape from Mountjoy by members of the IRA, any suggestions for maybe, "the missing tanker song" ?
    :D:D:D:D

    We seized a tanker, Oh boy we did.
    We' ll put it on auction for a bid..
    Behind the big high walls for safe keeping.
    Didn't realise the boys were a creepin.
    Over the walls they came a leaping.
    Where is our tanker ?
    Something is wrong
    Have a look the fúcking thing is gone.
    The gates of the barracks were a busted.
    Leaving all the soldiers and the Gardaí a disgusted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,126 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    John Mongo wrote: »
    No barracks in built up area's is what I meant.

    Fair enough. Not sure I'd agree with you though. The location of Aiken Barracks has never really been an issue before this theft. They can take place anywhere. I very much doubt those responsible are opportunists who just happened to get lucky either. Would it matter or have made a difference if the barracks was situated outside of the town?

    As an aside.. is it common practice for vehicles or their contents to be warehoused in an army compound after seizure by the Gardai?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    asdfg! wrote: »
    Yes John and that's the real issue. Someone with an interest in more than mere diesel could have got in undetected along with his friends armed with Ak-47s.

    It doesn't take much working out what they'd be after.


    ....friends and somebody to talk to?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,543 ✭✭✭Conmaicne Mara


    Funniest thing about all of this is the thread (now locked) in the military forum.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,401 ✭✭✭Royal Irish


    This is pretty embarrassing for the defense forces but really though, this theft is so daring, and so unexpected, I wouldn't blame the soldiers at the gate on guard duty. They must have been taken by complete surprise and left gobsmacked.

    I'd say they will be taking steps to insure this never happens again like erecting a steel fenced compound within the barracks, or even simply removing random parts from the engines of seized vehicles while being stored there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭humbert


    This is pretty embarrassing for the defense forces but really though, this theft is so daring, and so unexpected, I wouldn't blame the soldiers at the gate on guard duty. They must have been taken by complete surprise and left gobsmacked.

    I'd say they will be taking steps to insure this never happens again like erecting a steel fenced compound within the barracks, or even simply removing random parts from the engines of seized vehicles while being stored there.
    I'd say they won't, as another poster has said, this isn't the first time. How vigilant do you have to be to spot a huge articulated truck before it's on top of you?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,029 ✭✭✭Wicklowrider


    --Kaiser-- wrote: »
    How embarrassing. What a joke of an army we have

    Yes, its not like any other army ever slips up:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maze_Prison_escape Brits

    http://goo.gl/yRhQH Yanks

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afghan_War_prisoner_escapes Goonies


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