Brother of missing girl stabbed to death

kippy · 27-05-2013 09:09AM

RIP to the deceased and I hope his family can get over this. They've a tough number of years.

On the issues of "safety" - we might live in what one would call a "relatively" low crime invironment however some of our capital cities streets needs to be sorted out. The sheer number of scumbags, druggies and alcos is somewhat concerning. It's not just about "moving them" to the next street, one has to ask why there are so many?
Indeed I've begun to see more an more of these people in Limerick and indeed Galway as well and I would have genuine concerns for their own safety and the safety of others in years to come, particularly those with drug problems.

Not saying the deceased or indeed the story in general has anything to do with this mind.

cournioni · 27-05-2013 09:09AM

marob1969 wrote: »

May I ask for what?

Its a suspended sentence for driving dangerously under the influence of alcohol. Around New Years according to this:

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/stepfather-arrested-over-murder-of-amys-brother-29298296.html

garv123 · 27-05-2013 09:26AM

Foxhound38 wrote: »

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Another of our young citizens with what should have been his entire life ahead of him lies dead, the victim of yet another scumbag with a knife no doubt. Some of the things I've seen in the Dublin streets over the years makes me think that the scum well and truly own the streets and can act with impunity. I'm sure other Irish cities have similar problems. I cringe sometimes at the idea of the Gathering - bringing tourists over to witness and report back on the spectical of smacked out heroin addicts lurching around town, and the experience of getting intimidated at ATM's and Luas machines on a constant basis. Don't even get me started on the Dublin boardwalks

monkey9 wrote: »

Gets worse. The stepfather has been arrested for it.

So you were saying OP?

Terrible for the rest of the family. RIP

cournioni · 27-05-2013 09:32AM

garv123 wrote: »

Foxhound38 wrote: »

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Another of our young citizens with what should have been his entire life ahead of him lies dead, the victim of yet another scumbag with a knife no doubt. Some of the things I've seen in the Dublin streets over the years makes me think that the scum well and truly own the streets and can act with impunity. I'm sure other Irish cities have similar problems. I cringe sometimes at the idea of the Gathering - bringing tourists over to witness and report back on the spectical of smacked out heroin addicts lurching around town, and the experience of getting intimidated at ATM's and Luas machines on a constant basis. Don't even get me started on the Dublin boardwalks

So you were saying OP?

Terrible for the rest of the family. RIP

It's still a scumbag with a knife regardless.

John_Rambo · 27-05-2013 09:38AM

maninasia wrote: »

Geopolitical safety and crime safety are two different things.

Safety is safety.

Condolences to the family. Maybe you should start a new thread on how terribly unsafe Ireland is and all the wonderful travels you have been on?

kunst nugget · 27-05-2013 09:45AM

cournioni wrote: »

garv123 wrote: »

It's still a scumbag with a knife regardless.

But it stops being the sort of random act of violence that the OP was wringing his hands about when he was bemoaning how hard it is for the ordinary decent citizen these days.

cournioni · 27-05-2013 10:10AM

kunst nugget wrote: »

But it stops being the sort of random act of violence that the OP was wringing his hands about when he was bemoaning how hard it is for the ordinary decent citizen these days.

Agreed, however, one cannot disagree that random acts of violence are still a problem in our nations capital and in other towns and cities across the country. Its easy to see how the OP jumped to such a conclusion, whether he was wrong or right.

I'd imagine most find the current story more shocking than if it was a random act of violence which says a lot.

kunst nugget · 27-05-2013 10:24AM

cournioni wrote: »

Agreed, however, one cannot disagree that random acts of violence are still a problem in our nations capital and in other towns and cities across the country. Its easy to see how the OP jumped to such a conclusion, whether he was wrong or right.

I'd imagine most find the current story more shocking than if it was a random act of violence which says a lot.

Sure, there's lots of random petty crime but how many random murders do we actually see in this state? Sure, junkies are a bit of a nuisance and muggings I suppose are common enough but tbf it's usually pretty easy to avoid hassle in Dublin.

my friend · 27-05-2013 10:32AM

cournioni wrote: »

Its a suspended sentence for driving dangerously under the influence of alcohol. Around New Years according to this:

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/stepfather-arrested-over-murder-of-amys-brother-29298296.html

No, incorrect..

Mahon was walking the streets on €400 bail / €400 surety

The sentence was not suspended.

yourdeadwright · 27-05-2013 10:42AM

i wonder will we find out what exactly happened here if theres any witnesses ,
Is it just me or did anyone else have a dislike towards the step dad , i know it sound a bit harsh but i aways thought he was a bit strange when on tv, hard to explain exactly what but like he a bit of a chancer,

maninasia · 27-05-2013 11:03AM

John_Rambo wrote: »

Safety is safety.

Condolences to the family. Maybe you should start a new thread on how terribly unsafe Ireland is and all the wonderful travels you have been on?

Who said it was 'terribly unsafe'?

Safety is safety, what's that mean?

joe stodge · 27-05-2013 11:13AM

cournioni wrote: »

Its a suspended sentence for driving dangerously under the influence of alcohol. Around New Years according to this:

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/stepfather-arrested-over-murder-of-amys-brother-29298296.html

Should this not raise questions over Amy's disappearance now?

humanji · 27-05-2013 11:18AM

Folks, no speculative accusations about crimes you don't have the facts to.

cournioni · 27-05-2013 11:34AM

my friend wrote: »

No, incorrect..

Mahon was walking the streets on €400 bail / €400 surety

The sentence was not suspended.

Do you have a link for that?

ronan45 · 27-05-2013 11:38AM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

i wonder will we find out what exactly happened here if theres any witnesses ,
Is it just me or did anyone else have a dislike towards the step dad , i know it sound a bit harsh but i aways thought he was a bit strange when on tv, hard to explain exactly what but like he a bit of a chancer,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxlez8s1mVE

Here he is on a morning show also, i remember him looking very cocky and sure of himself on a late night show was it the late late?? Cant recall. I find him quite suspicious

ronan45 · 27-05-2013 11:39AM

joe stodge wrote: »

Should this not raise questions over Amy's disappearance now?

Judge Ann Watkin described the 42-year-old's dangerous driving as "horrendous" and said he had told "blatant lies". She added that he had shown no remorse and it was a miracle he had not killed other motorists as she imposed the jail term and a five-year ban.

realdanbreen · 27-05-2013 11:49AM

Dublin would be OK if it wasn't full of bleedin Dub's!:cool:

sunflower27 · 27-05-2013 12:21PM

God, what a scumbag. The obvious question is where was he when Amy went missing a 10min walk from her home in Spain.

I was only in the supermarket an hour ago and saw the book on Amy for sale.

darkdubh · 27-05-2013 12:25PM

One of the things that struck me about this case at the time was why the hell did they use that picture of her that they did in the missing poster?The one where she was dressed up like a teen hooker.Surely they had some normal pictures of her that they could have used?

sunflower27 · 27-05-2013 12:27PM

darkdubh wrote: »

One of the things that struck me about this case at the time was why the hell did they use that picture of her that they did in the missing poster?The one where she was dressed up like a teen hooker.Surely they had some normal pictures of her that they could have used?

May have been the most recent.

The mum probably didn't think twice about giving the most recent to the press.

ronan45 · 27-05-2013 12:38PM

darkdubh wrote: »

One of the things that struck me about this case at the time was why the hell did they use that picture of her that they did in the missing poster?The one where she was dressed up like a teen hooker.Surely they had some normal pictures of her that they could have used?

Ah sure all the youngsters are doing the duck face these days its par the course of growing up

padd b1975 · 27-05-2013 12:44PM

cournioni wrote: »

Do you have a link for that?

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/missing-amys-stepfather-jailed-for-horrendous-drinkdriving-29126560.html

From the article;

The defence lawyer asked the judge to suspend the sentence and said Mahon's
stepdaughter had gone missing five years ago; his partner, Audrey depended on
him and his father was in poor health.

The judge refused but ordered that Mahon could be released on bail to appeal
the verdict in his own bond of €400, half of which must be lodged along with an
independent surety in the sum of €400.

darkdubh · 27-05-2013 12:51PM

sunflower27 wrote: »

May have been the most recent. The mum probably didn't think twice about giving the most recent to the press.

This was the one they put up in the local area in the days following her disappeareance. It was a pic of her in some kind of fancy dress outfit that left little to the imagination.I thought it was a very strange choice.

Fr_Dougal · 27-05-2013 03:08PM

He has been released without charge, file being sent to the DPP.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/amys-stepdad-released-without-charge-following-murder-of-brother-29299436.html

lolli · 27-05-2013 03:11PM

Mr Fitzpatrick (23) is the brother of Amy Fitzpatrick, who went missing in Spain in 2008 at the age of 15. He and his sister were their mother Audrey’s and father Christopher’s only children.

They've lost both their children, god how would anyone ever get over that. Very tragic, it would break your heart thinking about what turmoil they must be going through.

JonathanAnon · 27-05-2013 07:51PM

ronan45 wrote: »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxlez8s1mVE
i remember him looking very cocky and sure of himself on a late night show was it the late late?? Cant recall. I find him quite suspicious

Yeah I thought that too.. I thought, ah that's just de Dubalin in him... But it did seems a little odd.. Just looking at that video, the mother has aged something shocking in the last four years..

27-05-2013 08:00PM

"Released without charge - preparing file for DPD" .... What exactly does that mean? You hear it a lot after questioning of suspects but I never understand exactly whats involved. Is it simply that's all questions asked & DPD decides next step. Just curious now cause I find this case interesting & my heart goes out to the parents. Your worst nightmare..

JonathanAnon · 27-05-2013 08:05PM

Usually means that the guards will examine the evidence and see if they have a chance of getting a conviction, before bringing the case to the DPP.

Cody Pomeray · 27-05-2013 08:21PM

1966 wrote: »

"Released without charge - preparing file for DPD" .... What exactly does that mean? You hear it a lot after questioning of suspects but I never understand exactly whats involved. Is it simply that's all questions asked & DPD decides next step. Just curious now cause I find this case interesting & my heart goes out to the parents. Your worst nightmare..

JonathanAnon wrote: »

Usually means that the guards will examine the evidence and see if they have a chance of getting a conviction, before bringing the case to the DPP.

It usually indicates that the investigation has reached its limit.

That's pretty unusual... this killing only happened in the early hours of Sunday morning, and already a file has been sent to the DPP. It may indicate that Gardaí are unsure whether to bring a murder offence or some lesser offence, e.g. manslaughter by way of self defence.

padd b1975 · 27-05-2013 08:27PM

1966 wrote: »

"Released without charge - preparing file for DPD" .... What exactly does that mean? You hear it a lot after questioning of suspects but I never understand exactly whats involved. Is it simply that's all questions asked & DPD decides next step. Just curious now cause I find this case interesting & my heart goes out to the parents. Your worst nightmare..

I think it means the Gardai are assembling all evidence for the DPP, it's also very possible that they think there is more evidence to be collected, more statements to be taken etc etc, then the DPP will decide if there is enough evidence for charges to be brought.

Obviously based on today's events, they do not have enough evidence to bring charges at this time.

Brother of missing girl stabbed to death

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