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M7 - Naas/Newbridge Bypass Upgrade [Junction 9a now open]

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  • #32
    Quickelles
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 378 ✭✭Quickelles


    ardmacha wrote: »
    Sadly, many truck drives seem as ill-informed about the law as you.

    Well, I'm not a truck driver.

    But this law is totally unenforced I presume -based on the fact that overtaking trucks are nearly as common as overtaking cars!


  • #33
    L1011
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 67,523 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1011


    There's been more overtaking since the 90km/h rule came in, as there's still trucks stuck with 80 limiters and also 90 gives more headroom

    However, I'd say there's still more non-Irish registered trucks overtaking than Irish registered, most of them are entirely unaware we have rules on it


  • #34
    JupiterKid
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 12,557 Mod ✭✭✭✭JupiterKid


    I was driving on the M7 today and the amount of lorries overtaking and holding back cars in the fast lane was awful.


  • #35
    L1011
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 67,523 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Overtaking lane. Calling it the "fast lane" just causes things like that, people assume "I'm going fast, I'm allowed be here..."


  • #36
    JupiterKid
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 12,557 Mod ✭✭✭✭JupiterKid


    MYOB wrote: »
    Overtaking lane. Calling it the "fast lane" just causes things like that, people assume "I'm going fast, I'm allowed be here..."


    That's what I meant. No need to be RSA priggish about it.


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  • #37
    L1011
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    JupiterKid wrote: »
    That's what I meant. No need to be RSA priggish about it.

    Just trying to stop the perpetuation of part of the problem.

    The RSA have a habit of calling it that, weirdly.


  • #38
    Quickelles
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 378 ✭✭Quickelles


    MYOB wrote: »

    However, I'd say there's still more non-Irish registered trucks overtaking than Irish registered, most of them are entirely unaware we have rules on it

    Might help if the restrictions were signposted. I drive about 30k/annum on those motorways and was unaware of the rule.

    Hardly expect foreign truck drivers to know about it.


  • #39
    Carawaystick
    Registered Users Posts: 8,779 ✭✭✭Carawaystick


    Quickelles wrote: »
    Might help if the restrictions were signposted. I drive about 30k/annum on those motorways and was unaware of the rule.

    Hardly expect foreign truck drivers to know about it.

    Where did you live when the iif posted out a copy of the rules of the road to almost every house in the country some years back?

    If you were to visit a foreign country, wouldn't you familiarise yourself with the differences in traffic laws before you went?


  • #40
    Quickelles
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 378 ✭✭Quickelles


    Carawaystick wrote: »

    If you were to visit a foreign country, wouldn't you familiarise yourself with the differences in traffic laws before you went?

    Absolutely not!

    And I drive abroad a lot.

    I read the signs and follow the lines. :rolleyes:


  • #41
    BuzzFish
    Registered Users Posts: 736 ✭✭✭BuzzFish


    BTW this item was recently discussed at a Kildare County Council meeting. See the minutes below... although it was ultimately put off for a month (latest minutes not available yet).

    http://kildare.ie/CountyCouncil/CorporateServices/CorporateServices/CouncilMeetings/KildareCountyCouncilCommitteeMeetings/2013/Minutes/130325.pdf


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  • #42
    Quickelles
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 378 ✭✭Quickelles


    I assume "Newhall Junction" is the "Naas South" exit?

    Pretty inadequate at this stage...they hadn't discovered dumbells back in 1980!


  • #43
    BuzzFish
    Registered Users Posts: 736 ✭✭✭BuzzFish


    Quickelles wrote: »
    I assume "Newhall Junction" is the "Naas South" exit?

    Pretty inadequate at this stage...they hadn't discovered dumbells back in 1980!

    No, this is the proposed junction between Naas North and South. Required now due to the 800+ cars that will be heading to the Kerry Site once constructed (their planning permission includes 768 parking spaces)


  • #44
    L1011
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    BuzzFish wrote: »
    No, this is the proposed junction between Naas North and South. Required now due to the 800+ cars that will be heading to the Kerry Site once constructed (their planning permission includes 768 parking spaces)

    No, that's Osberstown.

    Newhall is Naas South.


  • #45
    BuzzFish
    Registered Users Posts: 736 ✭✭✭BuzzFish


    MYOB wrote: »
    No, that's Osberstown.

    Newhall is Naas South.

    I misread the post and thought the previous poster was referring to the council meeting minutes I'd posted. It was Osberstown that was discussed at the meeting.


  • #46
    Chris_5339762
    Registered Users Posts: 5,848 ✭✭✭Chris_5339762


    Yeah the plans I've seen show Osberstown as a new junction and Newhall (Naas South) rebuilt and moved westbound a little bit.


  • #47
    Quickelles
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 378 ✭✭Quickelles


    Chris_5339762 wrote: »
    Yeah the plans I've seen show Osberstown as a new junction and Newhall (Naas South) rebuilt and moved westbound a little bit.

    Naas South could certainly do with an upgrade...where is the rebuilt junction to be located...south of the Naas - Newbridge dual carriageway overbridge?

    Any links to drawings?


  • #48
    FuzzyZoeller
    Registered Users Posts: 80 ✭✭FuzzyZoeller


    Updated info on the widening and the Osberstown Interchange / Sallins By-pass can be found here:

    http://kildare.ie/CountyCouncil/NationalRoadsOffice/

    Links on the left. Public consultation happening this Wednesday (29/05/2013).


  • #49
    Quickelles
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    Makes a lot of sense.

    The junction will connect the dual-carriageway R445 rather than a tiny local road.


  • #50
    jmkennedyie
    Registered Users Posts: 678 ✭✭✭jmkennedyie


    Suggests that the existing disused M7 farm access bridge to be replaced/repaired with a single structure in the same location, rather than a large two bridge roundabout like at M4 Jn 8 Kilcock, as per previous set of maps for this scheme.


  • #51
    bawn79
    Registered Users Posts: 419 ✭✭bawn79


    FuzzyZoeller wrote: »
    Updated info on the widening and the Osberstown Interchange / Sallins By-pass can be found here:

    http://kildare.ie/CountyCouncil/NationalRoadsOffice/

    Links on the left. Public consultation happening this Wednesday (29/05/2013).

    Any likely date as to when this might be started / completed?


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  • #52
    MYSTICA1
    Registered Users Posts: 125 ✭✭MYSTICA1


    Who will pay for this Interchange & by-pass? I understood there was no more money being given to new road projects due to the recession? Great news if it does happen however!


  • #53
    Quickelles
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 378 ✭✭Quickelles


    MYSTICA1 wrote: »
    I understood there was no more money being given to new road projects due to the recession?

    This would be a widening of an old road rather than a new project!

    The Lord will provide :rolleyes:


  • #54
    Deedsie
    Registered Users Posts: 5,272 ✭✭✭Deedsie


    Just found this thread, any updates on this project?


  • #55
    NedNew2
    Registered Users Posts: 379 ✭✭NedNew2


    I was at the public consultation and was told that
    detailed design and tender issue would take place
    in 2014 with planned construction to begin in
    2015.

    Dependent on funding of course.


  • #56
    NedNew2
    Registered Users Posts: 379 ✭✭NedNew2


    I was at the public consultation and was told that
    detailed design and tender issue would take place
    in 2014 with planned construction to begin in
    2015.

    Dependent on funding of course.


  • #57
    richiek83
    Registered Users Posts: 171 ✭✭richiek83


    NedNew2 wrote: »
    I was at the public consultation and was told that
    detailed design and tender issue would take place
    in 2014 with planned construction to begin in
    2015.

    Dependent on funding of course.


    The M7 Widening Scheme will shortly be submitted to ABP for approval.

    http://kildare.ie/CountyCouncil/media/M7 Naas Upgrade - 140110.pdf


  • #58
    BuzzFish
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    richiek83 wrote: »
    The M7 Widening Scheme will shortly be submitted to ABP for approval.

    http://kildare.ie/CountyCouncil/media/M7 Naas Upgrade - 140110.pdf

    I know from the project management team in Kerry for the new Kerry Centre in Naas, that part of their permission is based on junction 9a (Osberstown) being completed within a year of the site opening (due early Q1 2015). I'd imagine the widening scheme will be part of this work?


    edit...
    ... just read the doc. No mention of Osberstown exit. Am I wrong so, will there be no Junction 9a?


  • #59
    richiek83
    Registered Users Posts: 171 ✭✭richiek83


    BuzzFish wrote: »
    I know from the project management team in Kerry for the new Kerry Centre in Naas, that part of their permission is based on junction 9a (Osberstown) being completed within a year of the site opening (due early Q1 2015). I'd imagine the widening scheme will be part of this work?


    edit...
    ... just read the doc. No mention of Osberstown exit. Am I wrong so, will there be no Junction 9a?

    BuzzFish. I think they are separate schemes that will be built at the same time as far as I know. I think they are the subject of the two different EIS. The interchange and Sallins ByPass is one scheme and the M7 Widening and Junction Improvements is the other. There definitely will be a junction 9a


  • #60
    richiek83
    Registered Users Posts: 171 ✭✭richiek83


    richiek83 wrote: »
    BuzzFish. I think they are separate schemes that will be built at the same time as far as I know. I think they are the subject of the two different EIS. The interchange and Sallins ByPass is one scheme and the M7 Widening and Junction Improvements is the other. There definitely will be a junction 9a


    Folks,

    EIS of the M7 Widening is now online at the following link.

    http://kildare.ie/CountyCouncil/NationalRoadsOffice/M7NaastoNewbridgeBy-PassUpgradeScheme2013/EIS-EIA/


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  • #61
    L1011
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    None of the existing overbridges to be replaced, barring whats happening at Newhall. Quite a lot of a difference from the mysterious screeching we used to have on here about every single one of them being too narrow...

    I believe the accommodation overbridge is being removed in the Osberstown Interchange work but that's only an aside.


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