If we arrive on an alien planet what would we do?

Bigcheeze · 25-05-2013 07:04AM

af_thefragile wrote: »

If humans were to arrive on a planet that was already inhabited by an alien race that is fairly primitive and unsophisticated, what would we possibly do?

Sounds like Australia so we'd generally make a show of ourselves.

who the fug · 25-05-2013 07:13AM

make sure I am not wearing a red shirt

DEFTLEFTHAND · 25-05-2013 07:22AM

We'd corrupt it, We're a filthy race full of contradictions. eg....

I'm a man of honour, I swore the oath of omerta as the picture of Saint Joseph and the blood of my trigger finger burned in my hands. Now pay me or I'll put a bullet in your head!!

iDave · 25-05-2013 07:29AM

See if they've any decent footballers eligible for Ireland

Richard Hillman · 25-05-2013 07:55AM

We need to show them who is boss

limitedIQ · 25-05-2013 10:46AM

Call me cocky, but if there's an alien out there I can't kill, I haven't met him and killed him yet.

builttospill · 25-05-2013 10:47AM

There would obviously be so many amazing new things to experience but instead we would stick on the GAA jerseys and locate the nearest Irish pub.

Sin City · 25-05-2013 10:52AM

Introduce them to McDonalds and the Irish pub

wendell borton · 25-05-2013 10:53AM

We'd sell 'em whiskey and smallpox infected blankets.

mattjack · 25-05-2013 11:06AM

Look for Rent Allowance.

Anyone · 25-05-2013 11:09AM

Strip it of its natural resources, while all the time inflicting our ways and culture upon the inhabitants.

DublinArnie · 25-05-2013 11:19AM

Start abducting them at night and do krazy experiments on them.

Capt'n Midnight · 25-05-2013 11:23AM

Kerplunk124 wrote: »

Make it with some hot green alien babe..And, in the end, is that not what man has dreamt of since first he looked up at the stars?

fyp

Peter The Pedo · 25-05-2013 11:53AM

Get my dick sucked by an alien babe.

bradlente · 25-05-2013 11:55AM

Die?

Peter The Pedo · 25-05-2013 11:56AM

bradlente wrote: »

Die?

Suit yourself mate, more alien babes for us.

FloatingVoter · 25-05-2013 12:01PM

We'd discover they hadn't discovered alcohol yet so we'd **** off somewhere that had a decent pub.

bradlente · 25-05-2013 12:04PM

Peter The Pedo wrote: »

Suit yourself mate, more alien babes for us.

Literally babe's in your case.Your way's may be common-place on an alien planet.
:P

Capt'n Midnight · 25-05-2013 12:43PM

FloatingVoter wrote: »

We'd discover they hadn't discovered alcohol yet so we'd **** off somewhere that had a decent pub.

In Alien Nation the aliens got drunk on sour milk. Lactic Acid most likely.

When the body metabolises glucose one of the molecules produced is pyruvate. We can convert it to lactic acid - it's what gives you a stitch - but yeast convert it to ethanol.

So yeah it's likely that simple metabolic intermediates that we can produce in industrial scale may have an effect on them.

In another story one ginger mimicked the lizards pheromones, and even down here there was research into a Gay Bomb
The irony is that it was the Sacred Band of Thebes who defeated the Spartans.

IrishExpat · 25-05-2013 12:55PM

Basing this on our species behaviour on our own planet, past and present:

far from sharing our technology or wanting to learn about them, we'd probably just enslave them, extract their resources against their will, take and divide up land and force some religion/belief system or doctrine upon them.

Humans are assholes.

Rhys Essien · 25-05-2013 02:09PM

Have Marty Morrissey walk out of the spaceship first.He would put them at ease straight away as they would be thinking we look the same as them.

wandatowell · 25-05-2013 02:11PM

Id probably just take a little stroll about the place.

No point rushing about like

Turtwig · 25-05-2013 03:03PM

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

They don't even obey it on Star Trek :rolleyes:

Wesley killed the flowers and don't even get me started on Voyager.

We don't have a manned space program. That leaves the USA, Russia and China. And they haven't covered themselves in glory down here when dealing with those with less economic, political or military clout.

Even if the ESA get there first, well look at how the rich countries make far more on interest payments on loans to Africa / transfer pricing from Africa (most of Zambia's copper is 'exported' to Switzerland and then sold for a profit) than is given back in Aid. And the whole WTO and unfair playing field when it comes to trade.

I'm sorry but do the action of a tiny few rogue officers represent the entire StarFleet?
That said, I misread the thread, I thought it was what "should" we do, instead of what would we do?

I think we're lot more empathetic towards other sentient beings and humans these days so I think the vast majority of us would be peaceful up to the point of "If they're not a threat to me I won't harm them.". Even then we'd probably still try to just stun or sedate.

If it was our more recent less empathetic folk that colonised places in hte past though . . .
I would very much worry for the welfare of the aliens.

One other concern I'd have is if that the aliens were sentient beings but not remotely like mammals for whom we have a shared sense of empathy we may have no intuitions telling us not to harm them. Granted, I'd still think that many of us refuse to kill spiders nowadays, we'd do our best to not bring harm upon the aliens.

af_thefragile · 25-05-2013 03:57PM

Jernal wrote: »

I'm sorry but do the action of a tiny few rogue officers represent the entire StarFleet?
That said, I misread the thread, I thought it was what "should" we do, instead of what would we do?

I think we're lot more empathetic towards other sentient beings and humans these days so I think the vast majority of us would be peaceful up to the point of "If they're not a threat to me I won't harm them.". Even then we'd probably still try to just stun or sedate.

If it was our more recent less empathetic folk that colonised places in hte past though . . .
I would very much worry for the welfare of the aliens.

One other concern I'd have is if that the aliens were sentient beings but not remotely like mammals for whom we have a shared sense of empathy we may have no intuitions telling us not to harm them. Granted, I'd still think that many of us refuse to kill spiders nowadays, we'd do our best to not bring harm upon the aliens.

But consider this. In the future men have left Earth and ventured out to find "new lands" possibly because the planet has become over populated and its resources are dwindling soon. Global warming has made earth a dangerous place with rogue weather systems. Many species of plants and animals have become extinct which has cause the collapse of many key ecosystems. There is war, poverty and natural disasters through most of the planet. Basically life on earth is pretty ****. The wealthiest of nations have therefore decided to develop a space program to expand out to find other planets that may he better habitable for humans (or select few privileged humans/race depending on the prevailing political and social ideologies).

When humans coming from such a background land on an alien planet which is already inhabited by alien beings, it'll be interesting to imagine what they'ld do...

WilyCoyote · 25-05-2013 05:01PM

Convert them to Christianity - God also made their world. If that fails - genocide

ScumLord · 25-05-2013 05:25PM

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

We don't have a manned space program. That leaves the USA, Russia and China. And they haven't covered themselves in glory down here when dealing with those with less economic, political or military clout.

We don't really need nations to go to space anymore. I think private enterprise could well take over once mining in space becomes profitable. We're already have commercial space programs and we're beginning to see the start of space tourism.

IrishExpat wrote: »

Basing this on our species behaviour on our own planet, past and present:

far from sharing our technology or wanting to learn about them, we'd probably just enslave them, extract their resources against their will, take and divide up land and force some religion/belief system or doctrine upon them.

Humans are assholes.

Slavery's been abolished in most civilised countries throughout the world. There's what is effectively slavery in some places but the overall consensus among humans today is that slavery is wrong. Not every ancient people used slavery either, the celtic tribes were al lot like modern Europeans in many ways having rights for women and disabled people, nothing like the supposedly more civilized Romans that eventually wiped out much of those tribes.

af_thefragile wrote: »

But consider this. In the future men have left Earth and ventured out to find "new lands" possibly because the planet has become over populated and its resources are dwindling soon. Global warming has made earth a dangerous place with rogue weather systems. Many species of plants and animals have become extinct which has cause the collapse of many key ecosystems. There is war, poverty and natural disasters through most of the planet. Basically life on earth is pretty ****. The wealthiest of nations have therefore decided to develop a space program to expand out to find other planets that may he better habitable for humans (or select few privileged humans/race depending on the prevailing political and social ideologies).

When humans coming from such a background land on an alien planet which is already inhabited by alien beings, it'll be interesting to imagine what they'ld do...

Humans can't get from a background of a destroyed earth too a planet billions of miles away without learning how to live in space effectively and without a mother planet supporting them.

All the resources we need float in space. One we've cracked space travel we have no need for forceful colonisation programs.

It's most likely we'll observe the primitive aliens because we'll have much more to learn and will probably hate the idea of leaving our climate controlled space ships for a volatile planet atmosphere.

harry Bailey esq · 25-05-2013 05:32PM

go for a pint,complain about food/language/culture.

666irishguy · 25-05-2013 05:52PM

Depends on circumstances. If we need a new home and they have a planet that will support us, I think it's bad news for them from the point of view that If they are primitive and not aware of their position as another planet in a vast universe as we are, we could just set up shop and as it will be relatively early in their civilizations history and we may just become an accepted fact of their culture. We would though essentially be denying them the chance to develop their own unique civilization. They would always exist from that point on as a junior partner in some sort of galactic union.
If we are just exploring and happen to find them, I'd say it would best to just remain invisible and watch them until a point where they will be advanced enough for us to reveal ourselves. We could learn nothing from them and apart from the odd abduction to see what they are made from, we could study from afar or with micro robots very easily.
I don't see why we would need to conquer planets for resources if we were space faring to that level and could just find any number of planets that aren't inhabited and strip mine them.

ScumLord · 25-05-2013 06:03PM

666irishguy wrote: »

We could learn nothing from them and apart from the odd abduction to see what they are made from,

That's like saying we have nothing to learn from history. Humans evolved around 200,000 years ago. It's taken us nearly that long to create the world we live in today, it's only in the last 10,000 years we've had civilisation and only the last 200 years or so we've been able to really understand the world we live in through effective science. The only difference between us and the guy born 150,000 years ago is the programing. We've benefited from thousands of years of trial and error and re-programming.

We've only one perspective on what might be the most amazing natural process in the universe. Ordinary matter turning into something sentient is something absolutely incredible, we are realising that life happens, it's a natural process that's probably inevitable under the right conditions but as far as we can tell there's nothing inevitable about us. Things like us could be incredibly rare and any opportunity to study that process will be leaped upon and protected at all costs.

It's likely we may avoid any planet with any signs of life, protecting them in the hopes of better understanding ourselves.

666irishguy · 25-05-2013 06:46PM

ScumLord wrote: »

That's like saying we have nothing to learn from history. Humans evolved around 200,000 years ago. It's taken us nearly that long to create the world we live in today, it's only in the last 10,000 years we've had civilisation and only the last 200 years or so we've been able to really understand the world we live in through effective science. The only difference between us and the guy born 150,000 years ago is the programing. We've benefited from thousands of years of trial and error and re-programming.

We've only one perspective on what might be the most amazing natural process in the universe. Ordinary matter turning into something sentient is something absolutely incredible, we are realising that life happens, it's a natural process that's probably inevitable under the right conditions but as far as we can tell there's nothing inevitable about us. Things like us could be incredibly rare and any opportunity to study that process will be leaped upon and protected at all costs.

It's likely we may avoid any planet with any signs of life, protecting them in the hopes of better understanding ourselves.

We could learn nothing from them in the sense that they could hardly give us any scientific breakthrough that might lead us to build better spaceships etc if they are just out of the caves. By all means it would be interesting to learn about their biology and observe their society develop.

If we arrive on an alien planet what would we do?

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