What's Sergios beef ?

Rikand · 23-05-2013 09:57AM

Dublin Spur wrote: »

so what ? !

if he invited KJ Choi around for a curry would that be racist ?

the world's gone mad

Or Thomas Levet for some Frogs Legs

as an aside,

the amount of anal retentiveness in this thread is astounding!

Dublin Spur · 23-05-2013 10:01AM

some "expert" on BBC 5 Live last nigh said that 'fried chicken' is equivalent to using the N Word in America. She said it goes back to the plantations where the slaves only source of protein was chickens, and they used to fry them because it was the easiest way to cook them. And that the fried chicken reference is a reference to the slaves being lazy, spending their time cooking and eating their fried chicken instead of working.

As if Garcia knew about this !

Just goes to show, if you dig deep enough you can probabaly find racism in everything

realgolfgeek · 23-05-2013 10:09AM

GreeBo wrote: »

we are golfers , not footballers.

Really don't see the point in this whatsoever

GreeBo · 23-05-2013 10:15AM

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

Are you being ironic with your class slur?

What class would that be, the "Footballing Class"?

realgolfgeek wrote: »

Really don't see the point in this whatsoever

The point was to try and prevent you from getting an infraction due to the way you were posting.
It may be expected that footballers hurl curse words at each other, it is most certainly not expected of golfers.

If its still not clear (to either of you) take it to PM.

Osgoodisgood · 23-05-2013 10:22AM

Dublin Spur wrote: »

so what ? !

if he invited KJ Choi around for a curry would that be racist ?

It'd be awkward probably because Choi is from Korea and they don't really eat curry there.

Now if you'd said you were going to invite him around for some braised dog that would probably invoke some analogous racial stereotypes.

Russman · 23-05-2013 10:40AM

Almaviva wrote: »

Its still racist. That it was an off the cuff attempt at a quick quip, shows that unrehearsed, his instinct was a racial link when grasping for a line about Tiger.

Its not what the definition of racist says to me when I look it up

sallybongers · 23-05-2013 10:42AM

realgolfgeek wrote: »

If I did offend anyone, I apologise

Is that you Sergio?

Seriously though, I find Sergio's explanation/apology disingenuous. I'm not a fan of Tiger but Sergio is unbearable. I think most of us could agree that he wouldn't be half as much as a whiner, if only he could pop his cherry.

BigChap1759 · 23-05-2013 10:45AM

Peterdalkey wrote: »

Try telling that to Fuzzy Zoeller, he destroyed his career and credibility with a very similar remark, and he is a twice major winner!

Turkey is a much safer cuisine for golfer talk!

Have you read Zoeller's full remark??? I'd say not if you think it was a similar remark....

bustercherry · 23-05-2013 10:57AM

Can people just look up the history behind fried chicken stereotype before they start trying to compare national stereotypes or saying big deal, Tiger is only playing the victim.

Sergio is bang out or order and knows it after all the grovelling. Both tours have a responsibility to set an example but it looks like they'll bottle it. Golf is rotten to the core from the top down with elitism, predjuces, racism, drugs, cheating etc.... IMO it's no different than any other sport with huge financial rewards apart from the fact it's hides behind the usual cliches about honour, gentlemans sport etc...

PARlance · 23-05-2013 11:18AM

Osgoodisgood wrote: »

It'd be awkward probably because Choi is from Korea and they don't really eat curry there.

Now if you'd said you were going to invite him around for some braised dog that would probably invoke some analogous racial stereotypes.

And there was me looking forward to meeting KJ

PhlegmyMoses · 23-05-2013 11:31AM

It is a racist comment. Not quite on the same level as dropping the N word but fried chicken, watermelons, collard greens etc are a stereotype associated with black people in America. If Sergio wasn't aware of how that is racist, why would he say fried chicken, instead of bacon and cabbage or whatever? He'd also be well aware of Zoeller's faux pas 15 years ago. He has been a silly boy and needs to take his medicine.

Imhof Tank · 23-05-2013 11:44AM

I was at a corporate shindig back in 2003/4. Seve was doing the after dinner speech and came around to each table afterwards to have photos taken - it may have been when they had the Seve Trophy at The Heritage(?)

When he came to our table he pointed at a dinner plate in front of us - a half eaten well done filet steak - and said to me completely straight faced "that look like Tiger Woods"

Hilarious it was.

FixdePitchmark · 23-05-2013 12:12PM

Imhof Tank wrote: »

I was at a corporate shindig back in 2003/4. Seve was doing the after dinner speech and came around to each table afterwards to have photos taken - it may have been when they had the Seve Trophy at The Heritage(?)

When he came to our table he pointed at a dinner plate in front of us - a half eaten well done filet steak - and said to me completely straight faced "that look like Tiger Woods"

Hilarious it was.

Did everybody get the white hoods out then .

Imhof Tank · 23-05-2013 12:18PM

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

Did everybody get the white hoods out then .

People thought it was gas, or at least that's how they acted.

AGC · 23-05-2013 12:25PM

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

If Sergio wasn't aware of how that is racist, why would he say fried chicken,

This.

I didn't have a clue what it meant when he said it but he clearly did.

Rikand · 23-05-2013 12:30PM

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/golf/22636894

"I obviously was caught off guard by the question but I understand my answer was totally out of place and I can't say sorry enough," Garcia said.

"Most importantly I want to apologise to Tiger. I don't have his phone number but I've called his manager. He didn't pick up but I left a message saying I would love to talk as soon as possible telling him how sorry I am and say it was a bad comment."

Can we leave it at that so ?

Aidric · 23-05-2013 12:42PM

Imhof Tank wrote: »

I was at a corporate shindig back in 2003/4. Seve was doing the after dinner speech and came around to each table afterwards to have photos taken - it may have been when they had the Seve Trophy at The Heritage(?)

When he came to our table he pointed at a dinner plate in front of us - a half eaten well done filet steak - and said to me completely straight faced "that look like Tiger Woods"

Hilarious it was.

Reminds me of this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgA7EzVnA4A

FixdePitchmark · 23-05-2013 12:52PM

:P

bustercherry wrote: »

Can people just look up the history behind fried chicken stereotype before they start trying to compare national stereotypes or saying big deal, Tiger is only playing the victim.

Sergio is bang out or order and knows it after all the grovelling. Both tours have a responsibility to set an example but it looks like they'll bottle it. Golf is rotten to the core from the top down with elitism, predjuces, racism, drugs, cheating etc.... IMO it's no different than any other sport with huge financial rewards apart from the fact it's hides behind the usual cliches about honour, gentlemans sport etc...

Could you link the deeper one - is it not just that all black people love fried chicken ? A typical stereotype.

French and their Onions
Indians and their Curries
Paddys and drinking
English and pies
Americans and their fast food
Footballers are rough
Golfers are gentlemen (When a lot are pricks)

Yes looks bad for Sergio - the problem is , all the above are generalities , what Sergio said is a race thing. So not great - but he didn't mean it.

Hard to think Sergio came up with this as a hidden/open slur.

But, I have also heard that Spain is very insular and they have a problem.
Anyway - met Sergio - didn't like him - moved in on some good looking bird (slur word) I was talking to :P (long story)

FixdePitchmark · 23-05-2013 12:59PM

Aidric wrote: »

Reminds me of this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgA7EzVnA4A

I guess that is why Borat is so good. It shows how the world does work on assumptions and there is an inbuilt way that some think. They can be raised that way , only when educated can they see how wrong it is. But then dose that make the original wrong, intentional or cultural.

People look at golfers as normal people - they have a very sheltered life around golf clubs and 5 star hotels. They live in a strange world were they have little time outside of golf and very little real life experience and are educated by their media experiences and twitter.

Again a stereotype.

realgolfgeek · 23-05-2013 02:29PM

boy would I love to see TaylorMade drop Garcia..
doubt it'll happen, but you never know

FixdePitchmark · 23-05-2013 02:41PM

realgolfgeek wrote: »

boy would I love to see TaylorMade drop Garcia..
doubt it'll happen, but you never know

TM wouldn't , they love white.

harpsman · 23-05-2013 02:42PM

Without getting into racial stereotypes it would appear that the spanish arent the most politically correct when it comes to racial matters-the monkey masks at grand prix,basketballers doing "chinaman eyes",monkey chanting at the bernabeu and now this.

realgolfgeek · 23-05-2013 02:46PM

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

TM wouldn't , they love white.

lol ... too funny.

Oilbeefhooked! · 23-05-2013 02:47PM

realgolfgeek wrote: »

boy would I love to see TaylorMade drop Garcia..
doubt it'll happen, but you never know

Was trying to decide if you were a blindly blinkered Tiger fan or just an out and out Garcia hater?
Now I know , Jesus - your like dog with a bone!!!
Enough Already, and enjoy the golf - this is yesterday's news.

realgolfgeek · 23-05-2013 02:49PM

Oilbeefhooked! wrote: »

Was trying to decide if you were a blindly blinkered Tiger fan or just an out and out Garcia hater?
Now I know , Jesus - your like dog with a bone!!!
Enough Already, and enjoy the golf - this is yesterday's news.

If you're that disinterested and it's yesterday's news, why are you still reading the thread.
I for one am very interested in it, anyone else that isn't, doesn't have to click into the thread !!!!

Oilbeefhooked! · 23-05-2013 03:01PM

realgolfgeek wrote: »

If you're that disinterested and it's yesterday's news, why are you still reading the thread.
I for one am very interested in it, anyone else that isn't, doesn't have to click into the thread !!!!

Because I get an email every time there's a new post .
But I am backing out now , there's no point when you are so anti Sergio focussed that you now wish his sponsor to drop him.
That's just a bit Sad to be honest.
Good luck with your campaign
Goodnight and god bless!!
P.s. great to see Sergio goin well at Wentworth , be awesome to see him loft the trophy on Sunday

realgolfgeek · 23-05-2013 03:05PM

Oilbeefhooked! wrote: »

Because I get an email every time there's a new post .
But I am backing out now , there's no point when you are so anti Sergio focussed that you now wish his sponsor to drop him.
That's just a bit Sad to be honest.
Good luck with your campaign
Goodnight and god bless!!
P.s. great to see Sergio goin well at Wentworth , be awesome to see him loft the trophy on Sunday

There was speculation actually that TM may drop him.
Also, there is an unfollow button so you don't get mails.

FixdePitchmark · 23-05-2013 03:12PM

Would be a good thing, as he may get a nice set of clubs.

Also, would get away from that love heart add .

FixdePitchmark · 23-05-2013 03:27PM

Only a matter of time . Will be photoshops of that hat and heart.

" I Heart Fried Chicken ".

FixdePitchmark · 23-05-2013 03:31PM

adizero

"not now in black"

What's Sergios beef ?

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