Off-Topic Thread

Headshot · 20-05-2013 08:11PM

My computer setup is complete

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0exW6TZ3eQ

BloodBath · 20-05-2013 08:55PM

Nice, sounds loud as hell though. Could be just my volume.

Headshot · 20-05-2013 08:57PM

Im not sure where that sound is coming from but its a whisper quiet pc

Tinie · 20-05-2013 11:09PM

Have any of you guys been using the same SSD drive consistently for over 2 years approx, and if so, have you had any problems with it, as was talking to a mate, and he was saying that SSD drives only have a lifespan of about 2 years before deteriorating.

Serephucus · 20-05-2013 11:12PM

Not true. I've had an OCZ Onyx for just about three years at this point, and it's still going strong. Reads as 90% durability in Hard Disk Sentinel, and that's only minimum, never mind how long it keeps going out of spec. And the Onyx is far from durable in comparison to modern drives.

Gumbi · 20-05-2013 11:12PM

Tinie wrote: »

Have any of you guys been using the same SSD drive consistently for over 2 years approx, and if so, have you had any problems with it, as was talking to a mate, and he was saying that SSD drives only have a lifespan of about 2 years before deteriorating.

They don't detiorate anytime quickly. They have very reasonable lives. I've had my M4 for almost 2 years and its still going strong.

BloodBath · 20-05-2013 11:17PM

The bigger the drive the more durable. Depends on nand type as well but for normal use even the lowest durability nand would last longer than you would use it before it's totally obsolete.

tuxy · 20-05-2013 11:20PM

Mine is a 128GB corsair m4 with 10000 hours work time.
SSDlife estimates it will last another 8 years and 5 mounths.

Maybe it you were to totally reinstall windows a few times every week it would only last 2 years

Prof Nincom Poop Ph.D · 20-05-2013 11:28PM

tuxy wrote: »

Mine is a 128GB corsair m4 with 10000 hours play time.
SSDlife estimates it will last another 8 years and 5 mounths.

Maybe it you were to totally reinstall windows a few times every week it would only last 2 years

fixed that for ya.

tuxy · 20-05-2013 11:38PM

Prof Nincom Poop Ph.D wrote: »

fixed that for ya.

Too true

Monotype · 21-05-2013 09:45AM

Early ones deteriorated fairly quickly, but today's ones last fairly well. Even the Samsung 840s which have lower life expectancy should still last on account of their larger size and the data being spread over them.

It depends on the kind of abuse you give them though. So long as you're not downloading and deleting 20GB of data a day on a 64GB drive, you'll be fine. Check out the SSD guide in my signature. I've talked about it a bit and there's links to real write endurance tests conducted by members of XS.
If you were doing a lot of hibernations with your computer, you could potentially wear it out fast too. We're talking about many times a day, with a lot of programs open.

BloodBath · 21-05-2013 11:25AM

Hibernation should be disabled. It's a waste of good ssd space. Have a hdd set for your downloads as well.

Gumbi · 21-05-2013 05:24PM

Wow what a pain. I don't think I can manually control fans 2 or 3 on my motherboard. Only system fan 1.

My motherboard is a Gigabyte Z77X d3H. I currently have 3 Arctic CoolingF12 fans connected. System fan 1 is running at ~850RPM, while the other 2 are running at ~1400RPM (max speed, very loud). My board has 3 system fan connections, all 4 pin headers. Each of my fans has 3 pin header.

I've been messing around with SpeedFan/EasyTune software and it seems like I can only control System Fan 1. The others run at max speed by default and I can't seem to change this.

Any help?

Gumbi · 21-05-2013 06:05PM

Ah, I think I have it figured out. System fan 1 is actually a 3 pin header, the fourth is a dud.

The 2 other connections are 4 pin, so only have PWM control. So, since I have 3 pin connectors, try run at full speed automatically.

I think I'll have to get 2 PWM controlled fans instead (and keep the other one).

Gumbi · 21-05-2013 06:19PM

Or maybe a fan controller would be the cheaper option than returning 2 of the F12s and buying F12 PWMs.

Headshot · 21-05-2013 08:20PM

Did ye see the new xbox

Talk about ugly

indough · 21-05-2013 08:25PM

i think it looks nice

Serephucus · 21-05-2013 08:28PM

I quite like it. Not a fan of the glossy though. Still, as long as the peasants are convinced to upgrade, I don't much mind what it looks like.

Interesting stuff coming out about the OS implementations though. By the sounds of it, there will be a game environment-specific OS that will stay static, a Windows RT-style one for front-end apps and the like, and a communication layer.

ShadowHearth · 21-05-2013 08:55PM

indough wrote: »

i think it looks nice

If you think that looked good, then you should see my ass!

Monotype · 21-05-2013 09:07PM

It reminds of of the really low budget cases that you skim over when you sort by lowest price. Except that the pictures are more airbrushed with lots of gradients to make it look nice.

So... when's the next xbox AFTER this coming out?

indough · 21-05-2013 09:08PM

its a conservative design so im not quite sure how it could be described in extremes such as ugly. it looks much better than the ostentatious monstrosities that were the launch ps3 and original xbox at least. and its not curved so it will fit in with standard av equipment. it would look much better in matte though

Monotype · 21-05-2013 10:55PM

They probably realised that curvy designs weren't good for airflow.

tuxy · 21-05-2013 11:01PM

If it's got an APU rather than an dedicated GPU chip why is it so big?

NTMK · 21-05-2013 11:05PM

tuxy wrote: »

If it's got an APU rather than an dedicated GPU chip why is it so big?

its not a normal apu its got a modified 7970M which runs hotter than a typical apu

its also not that much bigger than the current xbox 13" x 3" compared to 10.4" x 3" for the slim 360

Monotype · 21-05-2013 11:08PM

I was kind of wondering about the size of it myself. I need to see more pictures of it in real situations to get an idea of its size. I'm guessing they're going overboard with the airflow in compensation for last time.

In this 'disassembly' picture, it gives a smaller perspective if that back panel is taking up the bulk of the machine.
http://kotaku.com/microsofts-marc-whitten-just-lifted-the-hood-on-the-xbo-509072559

NTMK wrote: »

its not a normal apu its got a modified 7970M which runs hotter than a typical apu

And it's welded onto an 8-core. The APUs only go up to 4 cores.

tuxy · 21-05-2013 11:13PM

I think the size only makes sense if the power supply will be inside the casing. Does anyone know if that is the design?

NTMK · 21-05-2013 11:16PM

tuxy wrote: »

I think the size only makes sense if the power supply will be inside the casing. Does anyone know if that is the design?

doubt it tbh. MS probably went ott with cooling after the RROD

BloodBath · 22-05-2013 01:29AM

Gumbi wrote: »

Or maybe a fan controller would be the cheaper option than returning 2 of the F12s and buying F12 PWMs.

You could get a 3 pin splitter cable that splits a single 3 pin connection in to 3 x 3 pin. They are around a tenner and come in a load of colours.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/BitFenix-60cm-3-Pin-3x-Adapter/dp/B004J3R9YY/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1369182517&sr=8-8&keywords=3+pin+fan+splitter+bitfenix

tuxy · 22-05-2013 01:30AM

What motherboard do you have? Are you sure you can not change fan speed in the bios?

marco_polo · 22-05-2013 01:39AM

tuxy wrote: »

If it's got an APU rather than an dedicated GPU chip why is it so big?

It surprised me as well, I'm sure they have a good reason but I was definitely expecting closer to the Wii U in size.

Off-Topic Thread

Comments