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Nice, sounds loud as hell though. Could be just my volume.

Headshot

Im not sure where that sound is coming from but its a whisper quiet pc

Tinie

Have any of you guys been using the same SSD drive consistently for over 2 years approx, and if so, have you had any problems with it, as was talking to a mate, and he was saying that SSD drives only have a lifespan of about 2 years before deteriorating.

Serephucus

Not true. I've had an OCZ Onyx for just about three years at this point, and it's still going strong. Reads as 90% durability in Hard Disk Sentinel, and that's only minimum, never mind how long it keeps going out of spec. And the Onyx is far from durable in comparison to modern drives.

Tinie wrote: »

Have any of you guys been using the same SSD drive consistently for over 2 years approx, and if so, have you had any problems with it, as was talking to a mate, and he was saying that SSD drives only have a lifespan of about 2 years before deteriorating.

They don't detiorate anytime quickly. They have very reasonable lives. I've had my M4 for almost 2 years and its still going strong.

The bigger the drive the more durable. Depends on nand type as well but for normal use even the lowest durability nand would last longer than you would use it before it's totally obsolete.

Mine is a 128GB corsair m4 with 10000 hours work time.
SSDlife estimates it will last another 8 years and 5 mounths.

Maybe it you were to totally reinstall windows a few times every week it would only last 2 years

Prof Nincom Poop Ph.D

tuxy wrote: »

Mine is a 128GB corsair m4 with 10000 hours play time.
SSDlife estimates it will last another 8 years and 5 mounths.

Maybe it you were to totally reinstall windows a few times every week it would only last 2 years

fixed that for ya.

Prof Nincom Poop Ph.D wrote: »

fixed that for ya.

Too true

Early ones deteriorated fairly quickly, but today's ones last fairly well. Even the Samsung 840s which have lower life expectancy should still last on account of their larger size and the data being spread over them.

It depends on the kind of abuse you give them though. So long as you're not downloading and deleting 20GB of data a day on a 64GB drive, you'll be fine. Check out the SSD guide in my signature. I've talked about it a bit and there's links to real write endurance tests conducted by members of XS.
If you were doing a lot of hibernations with your computer, you could potentially wear it out fast too. We're talking about many times a day, with a lot of programs open.

Hibernation should be disabled. It's a waste of good ssd space. Have a hdd set for your downloads as well.

Wow what a pain. I don't think I can manually control fans 2 or 3 on my motherboard. Only system fan 1.

My motherboard is a Gigabyte Z77X d3H. I currently have 3 Arctic CoolingF12 fans connected. System fan 1 is running at ~850RPM, while the other 2 are running at ~1400RPM (max speed, very loud). My board has 3 system fan connections, all 4 pin headers. Each of my fans has 3 pin header.

I've been messing around with SpeedFan/EasyTune software and it seems like I can only control System Fan 1. The others run at max speed by default and I can't seem to change this.

Any help?

Ah, I think I have it figured out. System fan 1 is actually a 3 pin header, the fourth is a dud.

The 2 other connections are 4 pin, so only have PWM control. So, since I have 3 pin connectors, try run at full speed automatically.

I think I'll have to get 2 PWM controlled fans instead (and keep the other one).

Or maybe a fan controller would be the cheaper option than returning 2 of the F12s and buying F12 PWMs.

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Did ye see the new xbox

Talk about ugly

indough

i think it looks nice

Serephucus

I quite like it. Not a fan of the glossy though. Still, as long as the peasants are convinced to upgrade, I don't much mind what it looks like.

Interesting stuff coming out about the OS implementations though. By the sounds of it, there will be a game environment-specific OS that will stay static, a Windows RT-style one for front-end apps and the like, and a communication layer.

ShadowHearth

indough wrote: »

i think it looks nice

If you think that looked good, then you should see my ass!

It reminds of of the really low budget cases that you skim over when you sort by lowest price. Except that the pictures are more airbrushed with lots of gradients to make it look nice.

So... when's the next xbox AFTER this coming out?

indough

its a conservative design so im not quite sure how it could be described in extremes such as ugly. it looks much better than the ostentatious monstrosities that were the launch ps3 and original xbox at least. and its not curved so it will fit in with standard av equipment. it would look much better in matte though

They probably realised that curvy designs weren't good for airflow.

If it's got an APU rather than an dedicated GPU chip why is it so big?

NTMK

tuxy wrote: »

If it's got an APU rather than an dedicated GPU chip why is it so big?

its not a normal apu its got a modified 7970M which runs hotter than a typical apu

its also not that much bigger than the current xbox 13" x 3" compared to 10.4" x 3" for the slim 360

I was kind of wondering about the size of it myself. I need to see more pictures of it in real situations to get an idea of its size. I'm guessing they're going overboard with the airflow in compensation for last time.

In this 'disassembly' picture, it gives a smaller perspective if that back panel is taking up the bulk of the machine.
http://kotaku.com/microsofts-marc-whitten-just-lifted-the-hood-on-the-xbo-509072559

NTMK wrote: »

its not a normal apu its got a modified 7970M which runs hotter than a typical apu

And it's welded onto an 8-core. The APUs only go up to 4 cores.

I think the size only makes sense if the power supply will be inside the casing. Does anyone know if that is the design?

NTMK

tuxy wrote: »

I think the size only makes sense if the power supply will be inside the casing. Does anyone know if that is the design?

doubt it tbh. MS probably went ott with cooling after the RROD

Gumbi wrote: »

Or maybe a fan controller would be the cheaper option than returning 2 of the F12s and buying F12 PWMs.

You could get a 3 pin splitter cable that splits a single 3 pin connection in to 3 x 3 pin. They are around a tenner and come in a load of colours.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/BitFenix-60cm-3-Pin-3x-Adapter/dp/B004J3R9YY/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1369182517&sr=8-8&keywords=3+pin+fan+splitter+bitfenix