Rough behaviour when drunk - typical in West Dublin?

Funkfield · 13-05-2013 12:46PM

eamonnq wrote: »

Oh yes, of course. They just couldn't be ignored and left to it.

You didn't put in a :rolleyes: so I don't know if this is sarcasm or not.

Like Esoteric has done up there.

ringadingding · 13-05-2013 12:47PM

frank reynolds wrote: »

"what do you have in your bag"? and ran after her? did he rob her ???? :eek:

You spelt ride wrong

Esoteric_ · 13-05-2013 12:47PM

Funkfield wrote: »

You didn't put in a :rolleyes: so I don't know if this is sarcasm or not.

Like Esoteric has done up there.

I enjoy using the annoying emotes.

Funkfield · 13-05-2013 12:49PM

Esoteric_ wrote: »

I enjoy using the annoying emotes.

Likewise, but I don't always use them correctly. :rolleyes:

ringadingding · 13-05-2013 12:49PM

Are you a fair bit older than him op ? Or did you get married very young ?

P. Breathnach · 13-05-2013 12:52PM

DeltaWhite wrote: »

That's just what happens when someone drinks too much.. Nothing to do with where they're from etc, its just the curse of alcohol!

That's what happens with some people when they drink too much. Others behave differently. You can have happy drunks, sleepy drunks, amiable drunks, and harmless silly drunks.

OP, I believe there is truth in the in vino veritas saying. You might be seeing something of what he is really like. Keep a wary eye on things.

SEPT 23 1989 · 13-05-2013 12:52PM

Fairly tame by westside standards

13-05-2013 12:55PM

Esoteric_ wrote: »

It depends on what you mean by hassle tbh.

I've had my head kicked in by a group of men while out in a pub once. I'd done nothing to cause it, and didn't retaliate, other than to try and get the fook out of the pub. That's hassle, but I don't believe I did anything wrong there.

I know people who have had 'hassle' like what I've described - unprovoked attacks.

You can defend a girlfriend/sister without throwing a punch. pull her out of the situation and go to the bouncer.

There's a huge difference between getting into some 'hassle' and jumping into a fight for no real reason.

I've had a lad start a fight with a friend for no reason for instance and a few of us jumped in to help. I saw a lad who kept getting in my sisters face so I went over and pushed him away he instantly hit me so I gave him one back.

I didn't necessarily mean hit anyone in general though, just face up to people, threaten them that if they don't stop/go away things will go bad etc.

eamonnq wrote: »

Oh yes, of course. They just couldn't be ignored and left to it.

Again I didn't necessarily mean hit anyone here just get in their face, shove them, catch a hold of them and give them an ear full etc that sort of thing.

All the above is extremely rare only a handfull of time its ever happened me but I think the vast majority of people end up in some form or other of fairly minor hassle at some point when on nights out.

Dyr · 13-05-2013 12:56PM

Esoteric_ wrote: »

:pac:

Context - her boyfriend got locked, threw himself into a fight, threw something at a wall, and left her alone to go annoy some random girls.

In that context, nope. Not worth another chance.

Conext - You said "anyone" not her boyfriend.

Esoteric_ · 13-05-2013 12:58PM

Genesis Swift Rawhide wrote: »

I've had a lad start a fight with a friend for no reason for instance and a few of us jumped in to help. I saw a lad who kept getting in my sisters face so I went over and pushed him away he instantly hit me so I gave him one back.

I didn't necessarily mean hit anyone in general though, just face up to people, threaten them that if they don't stop/go away things will go bad etc.

Again I didn't necessarily mean hit anyone here just get in their face, shove them, catch a hold of them and give them an ear full etc that sort of thing.

All the above is extremely rare only a handfull of time its ever happened but I think the vast majority of people end up in some form or other of fairly minor hassle at some point when on nights out.

Here's an idea. If a 'few' of you jump in to help a mate, just hold the other bloke back, while your mate gets away.

If a lad gets in your sister's face, pull her away and get the bouncer. Pushing him is tantamount to hitting him, you started the physical aspect of that fight.

Shoving somebody is physical aggression. Threatening them is provocation.

Ffs, is it so difficult to remove yourself or the person involved from the equation without asking for a fight?

Chairman Meow · 13-05-2013 12:59PM

He sounds like a real winner OP, a true charmer. Id say probably marriage material.

Esoteric_ · 13-05-2013 12:59PM

Bambi wrote: »

Conext - You said "anyone" not her boyfriend.

And I meant anyone. Friends, family, strangers, etc. I don't associate with violent people. If somebody gets violent in front of me, I get rid of them. Simple really.

eamonnq · 13-05-2013 01:05PM

Esoteric_ wrote: »

If somebody gets violent in front of me, I get rid of them.

'Get rid of' as in bump them off ?? That is taking a bit too far !!!:P

Dazzler0911 · 13-05-2013 01:06PM

"threw the can of soda at the wall out on the street really violently and thought it was hilarious"

This guy is in his late 20's? Sounds like a gob**ite. Head Southside luv

Esoteric_ · 13-05-2013 01:07PM

eamonnq wrote: »

'Get rid of' as in bump them off ?? That is taking a bit too far !!!:P

If they get violent with me, it's only fair that I get violent back!

eamonnq · 13-05-2013 01:12PM

Dazzler0911 wrote: »

"threw the can of soda at the wall out on the street really violently and thought it was hilarious"

Maybe he was 'launching' the chipper!! as they do at the Yacht club when one gets the new model into the water for the first time.

eamonnq · 13-05-2013 01:27PM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Fairly tame by westside standards

Well it was south-west apparently.:D

JaneeMack · 13-05-2013 01:35PM

ringadingding wrote: »

Are you a fair bit older than him op ? Or did you get married very young ?

I got married in my late 20's and yes, he is a bit younger than me

eamonnq · 13-05-2013 01:37PM

Was it the chipper in Clondalkin ? Saw a badly beaten-up soda can outside one of them this morning, jumped in to try to help it but it was too late........

JaneeMack · 13-05-2013 01:39PM

eamonnq wrote: »

Was it the chipper in Clondalkin ? Saw a badly beaten-up soda can outside one of them this morning, jumped in to try to help it but it was too late........

Nah it was in town :P

13-05-2013 01:51PM

Esoteric_ wrote: »

Here's an idea. If a 'few' of you jump in to help a mate, just hold the other bloke back, while your mate gets away.

Its more or less what we did, it was 3 against 3 so it got hands on but none of us actually threw any punches at them just man handled them enough to stop them attacking my friend. I actually jumped between my friend and one of the other lads fists as he was about to hit him in the back of the head so I took a blow for my troubles.

Esoteric_ wrote: »

If a lad gets in your sister's face, pull her away and get the bouncer. Pushing him is tantamount to hitting him, you started the physical aspect of that fight.

Shoving somebody is physical aggression. Threatening them is provocation.

Ffs, is it so difficult to remove yourself or the person involved from the equation without asking for a fight?

No thanks, in this situation I was dealing with it and I'm nearly glad he hit me so I had an excuse to give him one back.

eamonnq · 13-05-2013 01:58PM

Genesis Swift Rawhide wrote: »

No thanks, in this situation I was dealing with it and I'm nearly glad he hit me so I had an excuse to give him one back.

Nearly ?

Dyr · 13-05-2013 02:03PM

Esoteric_ wrote: »

And I meant anyone. Friends, family, strangers, etc. I don't associate with violent people. If somebody gets violent in front of me, I get rid of them. Simple really.

Which takes you right back to to context. Violence is an evolutionary trait in humans. Its exists for a reason. If somebody "gets violent in front of you" to protect you from assault by a third party I'm going to have to assume that you will "get rid of them".

Not so simple really.

TheUsual · 13-05-2013 02:04PM

Sounds like a good night out.

Girls love drama.

Esoteric_ · 13-05-2013 02:06PM

Bambi wrote: »

Which takes you right back to to context. Violence is an evolutionary trait in humans. Its exists for a reason. If somebody "gets violent in front of you" to protect you from assault by a third party I'm going to have to assume that you will "get rid of them".

Not so simple really.

It IS that simple for me. And yes, I would and have done.

Some bloke was giving me grief a few years back, then grabbed my breast. the bloke I was seeing casually at the time immediately punched him in the face.

I left, and deleted the guy's number. For some people, yes, it is that simple. If I'm in a situation where I need protecting, I'd rather be protected by being removed from the situation. Violence should be a last resort.

I don't really understand how much more you want me to clarify my views, I've done it numerous times already through this thread and you're either not understand me, or being deliberately obtuse.

13-05-2013 02:08PM

eamonnq wrote: »

Nearly ?

Having a sore jaw for a few days being the downside.

Esoteric_ wrote: »

It IS that simple for me. And yes, I would and have done.

Some bloke was giving me grief a few years back, then grabbed my breast. the bloke I was seeing casually at the time immediately punched him in the face.

If some random lad grabbed my gf like that I'd open him instantly!

asdfg! · 13-05-2013 02:24PM

I grew up in South West Dublin and no it's not typical behaviour in just that area or even of certain rougher areas. It is typical behaviour of certain Irish who can't hold his drink and behave themselves. Every single pokey little town in any county of Ireland has them. In fact I'd go so far to say it is more typical of smaller towns than Dublin because there's a better chance of being arrested for that kind of thing in Dublin.

He'll apologise and promise never to do it again but he will. He's shown his true colours so take from that what you will.

I've been out many times over the years with friends from all sorts of so called bad areas, Clondalkin, Finglas, Ballymun, Portarlington, (that's Laois BTW) etc. Never saw them act like that. They could hold their drink.

The Backwards Man · 13-05-2013 02:25PM

I think the only thing more pathetic than a real-life 'hardman' is an internet 'hardman'.

JaneeMack · 13-05-2013 02:28PM

asdfg! wrote: »

It is typical behaviour of certain Irish who can't hold his drink and behave themselves.

Why can't they hold their drink and behave themselves? Is it purely cuz they lose control when they get drunk or what is it?

asdfg! · 13-05-2013 03:14PM

JaneeMack wrote: »

Why can't they hold their drink and behave themselves? Is it purely cuz they lose control when they get drunk or what is it?

Well there's a question we would all like to know the answer to. I don't believe anyone actually loses control when drunk, more like it allows them to behave in a way they normally wouldn't. An excuse if you like. A convenient loss of memory often follows. Although to be fair I have forgotten the odd night over the years. But have never behaved like that, more likely told the truth to excess on a couple of occasions. Ooops.:o

But all too often it's always the same person who goes nuts and has to be minded by his friends who drunk as they are have more control over themselves. It's a pattern repeated every weekend.

Rough behaviour when drunk - typical in West Dublin?

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