CIÉ looking for Planning permission for redevelopment of Kent station, Cork

Itssoeasy · 03-05-2013 03:38PM

roundymac wrote: »

Images for the new design on todays Irish Examiner, I can't find a link to post though.

Good ? Bad ?

Victor · 05-05-2013 05:22AM

dowlingm wrote: »

offtopic since no drawings posted yet but can someone explain to me why Irish planning authorities use Djvu rather than PDF? Very annoying having to install this crap to look at application drawings.

I suspect a misguided attempt to protect the copyright of the document creators.

dowlingm · 06-05-2013 01:35AM

A planning document should be in the public domain. In Toronto planning documents are PDFs - for example this.

deRanged · 08-05-2013 07:33AM

they're taking down the railings inside the station now.

20130508_073824 by Brian Clayton, on Flickr

it seems to be going well.

20130507_160307 by Brian Clayton, on Flickr

20130507_160155 by Brian Clayton, on Flickr

Itssoeasy · 10-05-2013 04:56PM

Stopped for a second this morning as I wasn't in work till eleven and it looked like the closure for a week was the cue for IR to do the station equivalent of heavy maintenance on a loco.

There was an red buffer stop on the avoiding line that goes around the back of the station building itself and the bridge and tunnel were given the once over it looks like. I suppose when was the last time the mallow cork line was closed for a week ? And I wonder have they taken to opportunity to take up track from malla to cork ?

Victor · 10-05-2013 05:36PM

Itssoeasy wrote: »

There was an red buffer stop on the avoiding line that goes around the back of the station building itself

Any work on the avoiding line?

and the bridge and tunnel were given the once over it looks like.

That's been going on for a few weeks.

And I wonder have they taken to opportunity to take up track from malla to cork ?

It seems Rathpeason is / was disconnected.

Victor · 10-05-2013 05:53PM

The application appears to be on-line now.

Go to http://planning.corkcity.ie/InternetEnquiry/rpt_ViewApplicDetails.asp?validFileNum=1&app_num_file=1335599 and click on 'view related documents'

You will need to install a DJVU viewer, which I suspect only works with Internet Explorer.

Hungerford · 10-05-2013 07:28PM

Interesting and very typically IE. Ripping up railway tracks in favour of car parking.

Itssoeasy · 10-05-2013 11:38PM

Victor wrote: »

Any work on the avoiding line ?

Not that I could see but there was a cherry picker type thing up against the buffer stop
Between the buffer stop and the tunnel if you get me.

That's been going on for a few weeks.

It seems Rathpeason is / was disconnected.

wasn't rathpeacon disconnected before now ? Sure north esk looked 99.% intact just that small bit to connect to the main line.

Itssoeasy · 11-05-2013 06:41PM

Went down to the station today looked at the new barriers and the first thing you notice is how high the old barriers were and how much they blocked a persons view. The subway is now inside the new railings. The bridge is still a bit away from being finished, which allowed me to get a unique picture I think it's. unique anyway.

www.flickr.com/photos/37351096@N02/8729603586

Itssoeasy · 12-05-2013 07:00PM

@IrishRail: Bridge works btwn Cork &.Mallow completed early, line reopening, 19.00 & 21.00 Dub-Cork &19.15 Tralee-Cork trains will run through to Cork

deRanged · 13-05-2013 07:49AM

they've brought the new fancy railings all the way down now, but moved the line of the railings out a good bit.

Kent Station works by Brian Clayton, on Flickr

works on the bridge outside:

Working on the bridge by Kent station by Brian Clayton, on Flickr

works on the bridge by Kent station by Brian Clayton, on Flickr

Itssoeasy · 16-05-2013 06:46AM

Are the new railings with them being so low not going to easier to get over ?

Victor · 16-05-2013 07:05AM

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Are the new railings with them being so low not going to easier to get over ?

With the new layout, platform 4 might no longer be considered to be on the 'paid' side.

deRanged · 16-05-2013 07:48AM

they're making some changes to the layout of the queues and gates, e.g. there's a barrier now as you head to platforms 4/5 or the travel office.
It's between the automatic doors. I'll get a shot when I can find it clear of people and IR staff

all the spots for gates have these underneath - which I presume allows for data/power cables, for automatic gates maybe?

taking down the old railings inside the station by Brian Clayton, on Flickr

This morning I saw they've started to lay the same sort of thing from the booking office across to the gates of Platforms 1 and 2. photos to come on that too.

gobnaitolunacy · 16-05-2013 09:32AM

deRanged wrote: »

I'm wondering if they're making a queue system like they have in Heuston.

http://sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/395572_10151852280503835_1932081641_n.jpg

foggy_lad · 16-05-2013 10:00AM

Sounds like "automatic exit barriers will soon be in place at all exits from the station, please have your ticket ready when exiting the station".

gobnaitolunacy · 16-05-2013 11:35AM

And RPU armed with cattle prods!

davidlacey · 16-05-2013 01:28PM

gobnaitolunacy wrote: »

http://sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/395572_10151852280503835_1932081641_n.jpg

That is the funniest thing i have seen all day...

Itssoeasy · 16-05-2013 07:07PM

foggy_lad wrote: »

Sounds like "automatic exit barriers will soon be in place at all exits from the station, please have your ticket ready when exiting the station".

So what you won't be able to walk into the station and stuff without a ticket ?

Jamie2k9 · 16-05-2013 07:08PM

Itssoeasy wrote: »

So what you won't be able to walk into the station and stuff without a ticket ?

You won't be able to board the train or leave the train when it arrives without a ticket.

foggy_lad · 16-05-2013 07:26PM

Itssoeasy wrote: »

So what you won't be able to walk into the station and stuff without a ticket ?

Like in Heuston and Connolly you wont get from the main concourse where the booking office shop and toilets are without passing through a ticket barrier for which you will need a valid ticket.

Itssoeasy · 16-05-2013 08:36PM

foggy_lad wrote: »

Like in Heuston and Connolly you wont get from the main concourse where the booking office shop and toilets are without passing through a ticket barrier for which you will need a valid ticket.

But why ? What is the point of that ? I enjoyed going for a walk around the station at times. Are they trying to stop people from going near the station ?

foggy_lad · 16-05-2013 08:53PM

Itssoeasy wrote: »

But why ? What is the point of that ? I enjoyed going for a walk around the station at times. Are they trying to stop people from going near the station ?

Only those with tickets will be allowed to enter onto the platforms and Queuing area, this will cut down on those without tickets stealing from IE by travelling free.

deRanged · 17-05-2013 07:43AM

you'll still be able to walk the length of platform 4, down to the other entrance door at the tunnel end of the platform. like this!

Untitled by Brian Clayton, on Flickr

Untitled by Brian Clayton, on Flickr

this is opposite the other entrance by the tunnel end of platform 4, presumably to allow for a swift exit from the station.

Untitled by Brian Clayton, on Flickr

the new conduits I was talking about - looks like they come in the roof, drop down the wall by the ticket machines near platform 1 and head towards the new works on 4.

Untitled by Brian Clayton, on Flickr

foggy_lad · 17-05-2013 08:01AM

Are there not ticket barrier machines going in on the ticket office side of the current platform doors? Those gaps in the new barriers are for glass gates operated by code as seen in Heuston and Connolly and Pearse to allow for staff access.

Itssoeasy · 17-05-2013 10:47AM

foggy_lad wrote: »

Are there not ticket barrier machines going in on the ticket office side of the current platform doors? Those gaps in the new barriers are for glass gates operated by code as seen in Heuston and Connolly and Pearse to allow for staff access.

No the only barrier before was the one that ran the length of the platform in the main train shed. There are gates that were always open to platforms 1&2 and a sign that said something along the lines of no access beyond this point without permission. And someone would be there nearer to the time of train departures.

foggy_lad · 17-05-2013 12:45PM

Itssoeasy wrote: »

No the only barrier before was the one that ran the length of the platform in the main train shed. There are gates that were always open to platforms 1&2 and a sign that said something along the lines of no access beyond this point without permission. And someone would be there nearer to the time of train departures.

What I'm thinking will be is that barrier has been replaced with a lower glass and steel barrier same as Heuston and Connolly and the gates will be replaced with glass gates operated electrically using a keypad like the gates here

Then I expect a bank of ticket machines to be placed inside the station in front of the doors to the platforms where the trunking and blue plastic barrier in the picture posted above in post #56 is.

deRanged · 17-05-2013 03:06PM

foggy_lad wrote: »

What I'm thinking will be is that barrier has been replaced with a lower glass and steel barrier same as Heuston and Connolly and the gates will be replaced with glass gates operated electrically using a keypad like the gates here

Then I expect a bank of ticket machines to be placed inside the station in front of the doors to the platforms where the trunking and blue plastic barrier in the picture posted above in post #56 is.

I think you're right about that. it makes sense with the layout - only one new entrance to 4 and 5, both through a new ticket barrier thing.

foggy_lad · 18-05-2013 01:40AM

deRanged wrote: »

I think you're right about that. it makes sense with the layout - only one new entrance to 4 and 5, both through a new ticket barrier thing.

Unfortunately it will mean no access for enthusiasts/spotters/photographers onto platforms unless they purchase a ticket or have a free travel pass.

CIÉ looking for Planning permission for redevelopment of Kent station, Cork

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