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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,822 ✭✭✭sunflower27


    the_monkey wrote: »
    BBC reporting he could be executed :

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22475771

    a bit harsh !!

    This has to be a wind-up -the harsh bit. Anyone that could imprison a person, sexual assault them repeatedly for a decade is not someone worthy of life.

    Personally, I think death is an easy way out for this animal. He should be imprisoned himself, subjected to torture and feel every day what those women did.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭ilovesleep


    This has to be a wind-up -the harsh bit. Anyone that could imprison a person, sexual assault them repeatedly for a decade is not someone worthy of life.

    Personally, I think death is an easy way out for this animal. He should be imprisoned himself, subjected to torture and feel every day what those women did.

    That's so funny sunflower. I was thinking the same that perhaps death would be too good for him. That he should be subjected to the abuses that he inflicted upon those young women.

    Maybe prison in one of those banged up abroad countries might do him good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 80 ✭✭sulc84


    Finally good news.Tv always have information about killing,good news are rare.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,822 ✭✭✭sunflower27


    ilovesleep wrote: »
    That's so funny sunflower. I was thinking the same that perhaps death would be too good for him. That he should be subjected to the abuses that he inflicted upon those young women.

    Maybe prison in one of those banged up abroad countries might do him good.

    What about hard physical labour interspersed with torture. I would like him tofeel the fear those poor women did. Never knowing what each day was going to bring.

    The resilience of those women is truly remarkable. I cannot even imagine what they went through for a day let alone a decade.

    Yes, one of those rat-infested, filthy prisons where he didn't know where or when his next beating was coming from would be suitable for this ahole.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,591 ✭✭✭ahnowbrowncow


    the_monkey wrote: »
    BBC reporting he could be executed :

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22475771

    a bit harsh !!

    One of the girls apparently had 5 miscarriages because he raped her numerous times and when pregnant punched her repeatedly in the abdomen. That's just one of the girls, who he kidnapped and and kept in captivity for 10 years. I'm guessing we'll hear of even more his crimes.

    And you say execution is a bit harsh?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭ilovesleep


    sulc84 wrote: »
    Finally good news.Tv always have information about killing,good news are rare.

    I wish executions and the death penalty would be brought to this of the pond for serious crimes but unfortunately the eu banned it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,751 ✭✭✭newballsplease


    ilovesleep wrote: »
    Not one fcuking bit.

    He kidnapped 3 girls and held them hostage and imprisoned them in his own home for 10 years and subjected them to torture.

    Prison would be too good to him.

    Hope he dies slowly. And painfully.

    Actually death is too good for him. He should be made to pay for the rest of his life, behind bars, getting a good beating from inmates now and again for being the dirty f**k he is.

    Death pen is an easy way out for ****ers like him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭ilovesleep


    Actually death is too good for him. He should be made to pay for the rest of his life, behind bars, getting a good beating from inmates now and again for being the dirty f**k he is.

    Death pen is an easy way out for ****ers like him.

    I wish Hitler was alive today to sort out a fúck him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭Lone Stone


    ilovesleep wrote: »
    That's so funny sunflower. I was thinking the same that perhaps death would be too good for him. That he should be subjected to the abuses that he inflicted upon those young women.

    Maybe prison in one of those banged up abroad countries might do him good.

    But then who would do unto the guy who did unto him to him what he was doing unto them ! it would never end a never end... a never ending story.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,381 ✭✭✭✭Allyall


    ilovesleep wrote: »
    I wish Hitler was alive today to sort out a fúck him.
    :confused:
    Or instead of reviving Hitler... THIS
    The crocodile shears was an instrument of torture used in late medieval Europe and typically reserved for regicides – those who attempted (and, perhaps, succeeded) to assassinate the king. The shears were made of iron and were based upon the concept of pincers, but—instead of standard jaws or blades, crocodile shears ended in a pair of hemicylindrical blades that, when closed together, formed a long, narrow tube. The insides of the blades were generously lined with teeth or spikes. After being heated red-hot, the crocodile shears were applied to the erect penis, which—once exposed to sufficient tension—was torn from the prisoner’s body; or at the very least leading to severe arterial bleeding.
    .

    Ohio Kidnapping law
    If such kidnapping creates a substantial risk of serious physical harm to the victim, it is a felony of the first degree and the offender shall be sentenced to an indefinite prison term consisting of a minimum term of fifteen years and a maximum term of life imprisonment
    So he would probably have got life anyway..

    I can't imagine he'd get the death penalty.. But who knows...

    THIS PRISON might be perfect for him. Beaten and raped every day, and shackled. He could be their Plaything.


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,856 Mod ✭✭✭✭dfx-


    what would you expect the dispatcher to do exactly? Are you trained in dispatch yourself to give such advice :roll eyes: You do know that dispatchers at "trained" to stay calm and try to get info from the person - not go hysterical like some would want them do.

    From the tapes I've heard, they certainly were not calm if they were trained to be so.

    Dismissive, impatient yes, almost disinterested, but not calm. You can hear the panic increase in the victim's voice as the call progresses.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 64 ✭✭dartup


    its for murder,


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 64 ✭✭dartup


    its for murder


  • Posts: 8,092 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    the_monkey wrote: »
    BBC reporting he could be executed :

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22475771

    a bit harsh !!

    :confused::confused::confused:

    Harsh definitely isn't the word to use for this scumbag. However I'd rather see him suffer the rest of his days I think death is an easy way out for him, pure evil.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,557 ✭✭✭the_monkey


    :confused::confused::confused:

    Harsh definitely isn't the word to use for this scumbag. However I'd rather see him suffer the rest of his days I think death is an easy way out for him, pure evil.


    Sorry, maybe I shouldn't have said "Harsh" , but surprising, I don't know how they'll make a murder charge stick.


    I still don't agree with the death penalty though, its no deterrent.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 805 ✭✭✭SB2013


    the_monkey wrote: »
    its no deterrent.

    Sometimes it's not meant to be. Sometimes you find a person that is so dangerous and evil that his continued existence is a danger to others.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,557 ✭✭✭the_monkey


    SB2013 wrote: »
    Sometimes it's not meant to be. Sometimes you find a person that is so dangerous and evil that his continued existence is a danger to others.


    Perhaps, but it won't change the past, and he's never gonna be able to do it again anyway cos for sure he'll be in prison for the rest of his life at best for him.

    Use these guys to do work in prison and let psychologists/psychiatrists study them to see what makes 'em tick.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    the_monkey wrote: »
    Perhaps, but it won't change the past, and he's never gonna be able to do it again anyway cos for sure he'll be in prison for the rest of his life at best for him.

    Well it should be solitary. Otherwise what if he tortures some other inmate in prison? I know you will say its good enough for the other prisoner, but it means this guy is still getting his jollies.


  • Posts: 26,219 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    the_monkey wrote: »

    Use these guys to do work in prison and let psychologists/psychiatrists study them to see what makes 'em tick.

    This gives us a better shot at understanding and preventing it happening than executing them. There's a chance to gain some insight if he's alive, there's no gain if he's killed.

    I am totally against the death penalty in all cases anyway, as I don't think two killings cancel one another out or two wrongs make a right. It just makes killers of the State too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,897 ✭✭✭Means Of Escape


    Candie wrote: »
    This gives us a better shot at understanding and preventing it happening than executing them. There's a chance to gain some insight if he's alive, there's no gain if he's killed.

    I am totally against the death penalty in all cases anyway, as I don't think two killings cancel one another out or two wrongs make a right. It just makes killers of the State too.

    Factor in the cost of keeping him alive over the next 20 years if he lives that long
    No one wants to die, Bundy tried everything to escape the chair
    Look at how Charles Ng has made a laughing stock of the judicial system in California
    What information does one think that they would glean from interviewing this guy?
    He showed no mercy to his victims why show mercy to him?
    Richard Ramirez , Rodney Alcala all waiting on death row trying to avoid it .taking too long .
    Maybe for guys who are definitely guilty like the above the Saudi method of justice is the best after all regarding murderers


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,897 ✭✭✭Means Of Escape


    the_monkey wrote: »
    Perhaps, but it won't change the past, and he's never gonna be able to do it again anyway cos for sure he'll be in prison for the rest of his life at best for him.

    Use these guys to do work in prison and let psychologists/psychiatrists study them to see what makes 'em tick.

    Tried already with Oba Chandler, John Wayne Gacey and ken Bianchi.
    Doesn't work.
    They don't give anything away of significance
    Waste if time


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 805 ✭✭✭SB2013


    the_monkey wrote: »
    Perhaps, but it won't change the past, and he's never gonna be able to do it again anyway cos for sure he'll be in prison for the rest of his life at best for him.

    Use these guys to do work in prison and let psychologists/psychiatrists study them to see what makes 'em tick.

    Nobody said anything about changing the past. I'm saying there is no reason for them to be kept alive. At the very least they will be a danger to prison officers and other inmates as well as a massive drain on state finances.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,381 ✭✭✭✭Allyall


    the_monkey wrote: »
    Use these guys to do work in prison and let psychologists/psychiatrists study them to see what makes 'em tick.
    SB2013 wrote: »
    At the very least they will be a danger to prison officers and other inmates as well as a massive drain on state finances.

    I agree with making them do manual labour in Prison. I'd say in 99% of prisoners, their real idea of hell would be working.
    Also, it would make them give back, and wouldn't be such a drain on resources.
    Unfortunately, with machines now days, we can't be waiting around for things to be done by man power, even if that man power is 1,000 odd men (On separate jobs).
    But in the U.S. i don't see why it couldn't/wouldn't work. They have plenty of remote roadways that could do with being paved. Or other work..

    Death Penalty is the easy way out. He's on suicide watch ffs.. It's what he wants. His life is over, he wants out.

    Keep him alive, make him work. That would kill him slowly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 805 ✭✭✭SB2013


    Allyall wrote: »
    I agree with making them do manual labour in Prison. I'd say in 99% of prisoners, their real idea of hell would be working.
    Also, it would make them give back, and wouldn't be such a drain on resources.
    Unfortunately, with machines now days, we can't be waiting around for things to be done by man power, even if that man power is 1,000 odd men (On separate jobs).
    But in the U.S. i don't see why it couldn't/wouldn't work. They have plenty of remote roadways that could do with being paved. Or other work..

    Death Penalty is the easy way out. He's on suicide watch ffs.. It's what he wants. His life is over, he wants out.

    Keep him alive, make him work. That would kill him slowly.

    Kill him slowly? Why? Let him kill himself. World would be better off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,381 ✭✭✭✭Allyall


    SB2013 wrote: »
    Kill him slowly? Why? Let him kill himself. World would be better off.

    He'd be better off.

    I think he should be made stay alive, in the same Hell he had those girls in, Every day waking up, knowing what's ahead of him, getting beaten, raped, then back to cell. Sleep or not.

    Death is the easiest thing for him now, and he knows it.

    TBH i don't care if he lives or dies, but if people want him punished for what he did, Keep him alive.
    Also it may act as more of deterrent for others.
    Many people that commit heinous crimes, often don't care if they die.
    But knowing they'll be kept alive for the rest of their lives, in special made Hell, might make them think again.

    Although Prison is no longer a Hell (In Ireland anyway). Some prefer being locked up then being outside.. :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭ilovesleep


    Read in the paper this morning that he taunted the girls with a birthday cake on the yearly anniversary of their kidnappings. Their new birthday he called them dates.

    Fúcking pig and that's an insult to the beautiful animals that are pigs.

    The eldest girl Michelle, whenever she got pregnant, she was starved for two weeks before being kicked and punched in the belly to bring about an abortion.

    Jesus christ.

    Those poors girls. I hope they get all the help that they need and I hope they get some sort of compensation somewhere to set them for the rest of their lives.


  • Posts: 26,219 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    One thing I'm finding very unsettling is Castro's mother and daughter have both been on TV, basically apologising for his actions.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/daughter-mother-apologize-ariel-castro-crimes-article-1.1340045

    What's wrong with the world when they drag a monsters daughter in front of the camera and listen to her apologise for someone elses actions?

    In a different way, they're victims too. His poor mum must be in hell.:mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 805 ✭✭✭SB2013


    Allyall wrote: »
    He'd be better off.

    No. He'd be dead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,740 ✭✭✭chughes


    Ariel got a bad reception when he appeared in court yesterday.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,381 ✭✭✭✭Allyall


    He looked at me and stroked my hair. :eek::eek::eek:

    WTF?

    Look how sad the daughter looks holding the picture.. :pac::pac:

    Have to laugh at the balls on the pair of them...


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