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Means Of Escape · 07-05-2013 06:25PM

mikemac1 wrote: »

Taximen get a right lashing on boards.ie

But I love the banter with them and have great chats about all sorts of things. The foreign guys don't tend to talk, that's ok but the banter is great when it's there also.

True there is always the odd asshole.
But look around your workplace, your football team, your college class....there is always one!

Taximen are no better or worse then any other group in Irish society.
Just working men trying to earn money, that's all.

Just don't drive into the back of them

NegativeCreep · 07-05-2013 06:26PM

lovesfatgirls wrote: »

hate hearing about it tbh only thing i ever hear is 'its got great deals' but so do other places if you shop around
also steam authentication.

Oh. I thought you meant steam like from a kettle. Scarlet for me!

The King of Moo · 07-05-2013 06:37PM

MJ23 wrote: »

And it's crap. It's for dorks who live in a dreamworld.

Out of any of the five series (six if you count the animated series), what's your least favourite episode?

PopePalpatine · 07-05-2013 09:06PM

lovesfatgirls wrote: »

hate hearing about it tbh only thing i ever hear is 'its got great deals' but so do other places if you shop around
also steam authentication.

Jeez, I'd hate to see what happens when you try Origin.

Cody Pomeray · 07-05-2013 09:30PM

Art was the crescendo of human development.

Art killed itself under Postmodernism, with a lethal dose of LSD and bath salts.

It was around the time of the Macarena.

Humanity is now in a state of regression.

Czarcasm · 07-05-2013 09:45PM

Cody Pomeray wrote: »

Art was the crescendo of human development.

Art killed itself under Postmodernism, with a lethal dose of LSD and bath salts.

It was around the time of the Macarena.

Humanity is now in a state of regression.

Say whaaaa'?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 07-05-2013 11:25PM

Cody Pomeray wrote: »

Art was the crescendo of human development.

Art killed itself under Postmodernism, with a lethal dose of LSD and bath salts.

It was around the time of the Macarena.

Humanity is now in a state of regression.

That's music, not art!

NegativeCreep · 07-05-2013 11:35PM

Cody Pomeray wrote: »

Art was the crescendo of human development.

Art killed itself under Postmodernism, with a lethal dose of LSD and bath salts.

It was around the time of the Macarena.

Humanity is now in a state of regression.

2Deep4Me.

Mardy Bum · 08-05-2013 12:29AM

Cody Pomeray wrote: »

Art was the crescendo of human development.

Art killed itself under Postmodernism, with a lethal dose of LSD and bath salts.

It was around the time of the Macarena.

Humanity is now in a state of regression.

Harold Bloom on boards?

There is plenty of good post postmodern art and there was good art in the immediate aftermath of postmodernism in the American minimalist scene.

Cody Pomeray · 08-05-2013 12:33AM

Mardy Bum wrote: »

There is plenty of good post postmodern art

Yes there is. But postmodernism was the end.

I don't think art can develop any further beyond deconstruction/ deconstructivism (art committing suicide); it is doubling back on itself: regression.

Aidric · 08-05-2013 12:37AM

Who chose gherkins as a default topping for McDonalds burgers? It sucks.

Wacker The Attacker · 08-05-2013 01:04AM

Cody Pomeray wrote: »

Yes there is. But postmodernism was the end.

I don't think art can develop any further beyond deconstruction/ deconstructivism (art committing suicide); it is doubling back on itself: regression.

Art is a load of me hole.

Paintings are only interesting if they have fannies in them

Mardy Bum · 08-05-2013 01:21AM

Cody Pomeray wrote: »

Yes there is. But postmodernism was the end.

I don't think art can develop any further beyond deconstruction/ deconstructivism (art committing suicide); it is doubling back on itself: regression.

It already has, read some David Foster Wallace or Murakami. Derrida is old hat at this stage.

Indeed it is becoming more difficult to develop new innovative formal techniques but there are a number of writers out there up for the challenge.

April O Neill · 08-05-2013 01:36AM

The King of Moo wrote: »

Out of any of the five series (six if you count the animated series), what's your least favourite episode?

You don't need to watch every single episode of a show to know you don't like it. Give it a chance, obviously, but why would you continue to watch something you don't enjoy?

Cody Pomeray · 08-05-2013 01:41AM

Mardy Bum wrote: »

It already has, read some David Foster Wallace or Murakami. Derrida is old hat at this stage.

Indeed it is becoming more difficult to develop new innovative formal techniques but there are a number of writers out there up for the challenge.

I'm not familiar with Murakami at all but with David Foster Wallace. This quote (DFW) sums up almost exactly how I feel about where art is going.

“For me, the last few years of the postmodern era have seemed a bit like the way you feel when you're in high school and your parents go on a trip, and you throw a party. You get all your friends over and throw this wild disgusting fabulous party. For a while it's great, free and freeing, parental authority gone and overthrown, a cat's-away-let's-play Dionysian revel. But then time passes and the party gets louder and louder, and you run out of drugs, and nobody's got any money for more drugs, and things get broken and spilled, and there's cigarette burn on the couch, and you're the host and it's your house too, and you gradually start wishing your parents would come back and restore some ****ing order in your house. It's not a perfect analogy, but the sense I get of my generation of writers and intellectuals or whatever is that it's 3:00 A.M. and the couch has several burn-holes and somebody's thrown up in the umbrella stand and we're wishing the revel would end. The postmodern founders' patricidal work was great, but patricide produces orphans, and no amount of revelry can make up for the fact that writers my age have been literary orphans throughout our formative years. We're kind of wishing some parents would come back. And of course we're uneasy about the fact that we wish they'd come back--I mean, what's wrong with us? Are we total pussies? Is there something about authority and limits we actually need? And then the uneasiest feeling of all, as we start gradually to realize that parents in fact aren't ever coming back--which means we're going to have to be the parents.”

Except, I prefer my version where art, left with no other option, sticks its head in the oven, leaving the next generation to responsible foster parents who can begin the slow regression.

Mardy Bum · 08-05-2013 01:52AM

Cody Pomeray wrote: »

I'm not familiar with Murakami at all but with David Foster Wallace. This quote (DFW) sums up almost exactly how I feel about where art is going.

Except, I prefer my version where art, left with no other option, sticks its head in the oven, leaving the next generation to responsible foster parents who can begin the slow regression.

They said the same thing after To the Lighthouse. If you have read Foster's magnus opus you will know that it has not regressed. Deconstruction is a Derridean critical device used to interpret a piece. Very few artists willfully made their texts deconstructivist.

Cody Pomeray · 08-05-2013 02:36AM

Mardy Bum wrote: »

They said the same thing after To the Lighthouse. If you have read Foster's magnus opus you will know that it has not regressed. Deconstruction is a Derridean critical device used to interpret a piece. Very few artists willfully made their texts deconstructivist.

I'm not talking about deconstruction as an artistic method employed by writers, necessarily, rather in the context of a suicide - a doomed end, a stop to chaos.

That is to say, deconstruction is the ultimate exercise in self-reflexive disassembly, and therefore the logical culmination of all postmodernist art.

It is also fatal. Everything is infinitely ripped apart, and someone very responsible must now emerge from the centre, pick up the smithereens, and take us back to an old place where there is order, meaning, utopia, Stravinsky, goose steps and Barcelona chairs.

1ZRed · 08-05-2013 02:43AM

Cody Pomeray wrote: »

I'm not talking about deconstruction as an artistic method employed by writers, necessarily, rather in the context of a suicide - a doomed end, a stop to chaos.

That is to say, deconstruction is the ultimate exercise in self-reflexive disassembly, and therefore the logical culmination of all postmodernist art.

It is also fatal. Everything is infinitely ripped apart, and someone very responsible must now emerge from the centre, pick up the smithereens, and take us back to an old place where there is order, meaning, utopia, Stravinsky, goose steps and Barcelona chairs.

I don't believe in any of this. Art constantly evolves and will never, ever fall apart. It's like music, art is primal and will always be with us in our culture.

It'll just take new forms and directions. There's nothing wrong with that and that's just your opinion that we need to go backwards to one particular era that you favour. That'll only cause stagnation and will actually inhibit creativity if you're forced to abide by one particular style forever. It's counter productive.

Cody Pomeray · 08-05-2013 03:09AM

1ZRed wrote: »

I don't believe in any of this. Art constantly evolves

Says who?

If you trace the development of art since the Enlightenment, it has been evolving along a time series, but as Mardy Bum has acknowledged, the capacity to develop newer and newer techniques, and higher and higher levels, and enhance the performance, eventually becomes exhausted.

Art has evolved to a stage where it has taught us to rid it of all meaning.

What comes after that?

Presumably you have to start reconstructing it. So you go back to somewhere you've already been, i.e. you take regressive steps.

Art has killed itself.

W.Shakes-Beer · 08-05-2013 05:10AM

The motors forum on boards.ie should be renamed to "BMW fan-boy club, everything else is sh!t"

Czarcasm · 08-05-2013 07:06AM

Cody Pomeray wrote: »

Art has evolved to a stage where it has taught us to rid it of all meaning.

Art isn't just the high-brow stuff you're espousing, I'm sure you're well aware of it's many forms, but you come off like Woody Allen in that no art is intellectual enough for you. That's more to do with your own perception than it is a reasonable criticism of art.

In other words- the artist isn't writing, painting, sculpting or creating music that suits you and your particular taste, they're expressing themselves in art form, it doesn't have to be high brow, it just has to be accessible.

Cody Pomeray · 08-05-2013 08:46AM

Czarcasm wrote: »

Art isn't just the high-brow stuff you're espousing,

None of the greatest art is high brow.

It's nothing to do with whether art is demanding or not. The key issue is that art has been taking itself apart under postmodernism, like a drunken, maniacal mechanic ripping apart a car and laughing at all the parts, he wears the fanbelt like a necklace and drinks all the brake fluid (in a very arresting, beautiful way. Maybe David Bowie is playing on his radio)

But where do you go after the mechanic has disassembled your car?

After he has done it, someone has to put the vehicle back together again, or else you're never going to move forward, or get anywhere.

And putting the car back together is going back to a form we've all seen before.

Czarcasm · 08-05-2013 09:25AM

Cody Pomeray wrote: »

None of the greatest art is high brow.

It's nothing to do with whether art is demanding or not. The key issue is that art has been taking itself apart under postmodernism, like a drunken, maniacal mechanic ripping apart a car and laughing at all the parts, he wears the fanbelt like a necklace and drinks all the brake fluid (in a very arresting, beautiful way. Maybe David Bowie is playing on his radio)

But where do you go after the mechanic has disassembled your car?

After he has done it, someone has to put the vehicle back together again, or else you're never going to move forward, or get anywhere.

And putting the car back together is going back to a form we've all seen before.

Cody I appreciate what you're saying, but you're using a flawed analogy with the car as it is a mass produced product. The art is in the design, not in the mechanics.

To run with your analogy though, imagine said drunken mechanic takes apart the mass produced product, fine tunes it in reassembly, comes up with a superior design, I'm talking one off cars, modified cars, some of them not my particular taste, but some of them indeed are works of art, unlike a form the original designer intended.

Can't get the mental image of the Buffalo Bill dance from "Silence of the Lambs" out of my head now after thinking about that drunken mechanics Bowiesque manoeuvers, damn you Cody! :pac:

Drakares · 08-05-2013 10:21AM

I couldn't give a shít if Alex Ferguson retires from managing or if they appointed Buzz Aldrin as the ManU manager

Quazzie · 08-05-2013 10:32AM

I'm absolutely delighted that Fergie is retiring.

smash · 08-05-2013 10:36AM

American's use the word 'hero' too liberally.

Czarcasm · 08-05-2013 10:39AM

smash wrote: »

American's use the word 'hero' too liberally.

As do the Japanese, especially when you've only just met them for the first time.

stoneill · 08-05-2013 10:42AM

Mardy Bum wrote: »

They said the same thing after To the Lighthouse. If you have read Foster's magnus opus you will know that it has not regressed. Deconstruction is a Derridean critical device used to interpret a piece. Very few artists willfully made their texts deconstructivist.

Yeah - that's a pretty unpopular opinion alright!

Green Giant · 08-05-2013 12:20PM

I don't find Stephen Fry at all amusing. To me, he comes across as a smug, condescending character. I'm sure he is very intelligent but I don't get why people seem to fawn over him.

Oh, and Mock The Week beats QI hands down

VinLieger · 08-05-2013 12:24PM

Green Giant wrote: »

I don't find Stephen Fry at all amusing. To me, he comes across as a smug, condescending character. I'm sure he is very intelligent but I don't get why people seem to fawn over him.

Oh, and Mock The Week beats QI hands down

Your wrong he has made intellectualism fashionable and i will always be a fan of him for that.

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