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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,850 ✭✭✭FouxDaFaFa


    It's a very strange story. Hard to imagine what those girls went through. You'd wonder what kind of state Berry's daughter is in. Presumably, her captor wouldn't have let Berry give birth in a hospital so the child could never have received any healthcare or education outside of the house.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,170 ✭✭✭yeppydeppy


    Mental stuff.

    Could be a film about this in a few years time


    I'd say the guys in Holywood are telling the script writers to get out of bed already and heading for a casting meeting.
    There'll be a TV movie in a couple of weeks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 583 ✭✭✭68Murph68


    errlloyd wrote: »
    This is an epic interivew. Watch it through.


    Some top notch video-bombing going on in the video

    Check out the quotes on the back of the shaved guy's leather waistcoat when he turns around around the 10 sec mark
    I'd talk about my dick but that's a lllong story

    I ain't Mr Right but I'll **** you till he shows up

    The video is just packed full of internet win.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,721 ✭✭✭Al Capwned


    I read a book called Room by Emma Donoghoe a couple years ago.

    Chillingly similar. I shudder to think what those girls went through,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,103 ✭✭✭mathie


    The biggest question for me is how can someone go 10 years with 3 girls in his basement undetected.

    Are you looking for advice?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,787 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    If this story was the plot for an upcoming movie script, I would say it wouldn't get next or near production stage.
    I think this type of story is fairly common in films and TV. It's your basic horror film plot line.

    In fact, Hawaii 5.0 aired an episode almost identical to this last night in the US. The kidnappers were using the children to collect child support.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,230 ✭✭✭Leftist


    love the conspiracy morons.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 805 ✭✭✭SB2013


    H3llR4iser wrote: »
    And who tells you they weren't actually trying to run from their "friends and families", and maybe ended up even worse?

    What if they did? Does it make them any less victims or make their abductors any less culpable? No.
    H3llR4iser wrote: »
    Sure, go into the "tinfoil hat" jokes and ignore that the whole thing is strange. Let's just believe fact at face value and be happy, why not. Let's even bend reality and say the girls were abducted from different places, which they weren't (they disappeared from the same general location).

    People can only make jokes because I'm pretty sure if they revealed their true feelings they would get a ban. The girls were abducted at different places and times. Not hard for one guy to play gaoler while two go out kidnapping.
    H3llR4iser wrote: »
    Investigation? What's the need for it, there's a big bad guy with his brothers to blame, and if there are other people involved (somebody close to the girls, maybe? It's often the case) who cares.

    Who says there won't be an investigation? Hopefully they will concentrate the investigation on the abductors and not on the victims as you seem to want to do.
    H3llR4iser wrote: »
    And an entire neighborhood that is apparently blind and deaf? Ah sure, it happens all the time. Even when a small child suddenly appears in the company of an aging man that lives in a shut-off house, or the neighbour hear screaming from an invisible woman. Woman that at some point gave birth as well, mind you, without anybody noticing anything.

    Where are you getting these stories from? It's very likely they were kept in a soundproof basement. And when one did get to a door to scream they were heard by a passer by. How often do you go snooping around your neighbours homes?
    H3llR4iser wrote: »
    Let's also ignore the fact that the girl calling 911 identified herself as the "girl that was all over the news", so she clearly had access to TV and news programs; And also ignore the fact she apparently said "kidnapped me and my daughter"; Daughter that clearly wasn't born yet when she was kidnapped.

    What is the relevence in her having access to tv? Once her daughter was born she was indeed abducted by the same people who had abducted her mother. Your challengin the victims story based on semantics.
    H3llR4iser wrote: »
    Sure let's all be happy, and make silly tinfoil hat remarks at anybody that would be cautious before drawing any conclusions.

    I don't think anyone here is happy. You aren't simply being cautious, you sound more like a defence attorney thinking up a strategy for court.
    ScumLord wrote: »
    I think this type of story is fairly common in films and TV. It's your basic horror film plot line.

    In fact, Hawaii 5.0 aired an episode almost identical to this last night in the US. The kidnappers were using the children to collect child support.

    There was one an Criminal Minds too I think. A slavery ring. One of those involved was a doctor so theats how they got around the medical treatment issue. Unfortunately it was very believable.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,428 ✭✭✭.jacksparrow.


    I don't know what's stranger, this story, or Charles Ramsey, the fella who found the girls.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,559 ✭✭✭refusetolose


    reports of a naked girl seen crawling in the back garden that were never followed up by the cops


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,102 ✭✭✭RossFixxxed


    And yet again a horrible tragedy gets dragged down into stupidity and complete disrespect by ignorance, conspiracies and outright lack of sensitivity.

    AH we're done here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92,394 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    The captors surname is Castro - sick twisted b*stards


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,897 ✭✭✭Means Of Escape


    B0jangles wrote: »
    Yes, three unconnected girls/women taken at different times in different places signed up for a 10 year plan which would see them at best totally isolated from their friends and families, all for that sweet, sweet talk-show circuit money....

    I think your tinfoil hat has slipped down and is blocking your air supply dude.


    Wait until the investigations are complete then you can start talking about tinfoil hats


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,309 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    The is just ... shocking. Only word I can think of. There are just some evil in this world.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,698 ✭✭✭tricky D


    SB2013 wrote: »
    Where are you getting these stories from? It's very likely they were kept in a soundproof basement. And when one did get to a door to scream they were heard by a passer by. How often do you go snooping around your neighbours homes?

    Heard an interview about an hour or two ago on this matter with a local journalist. He pointed out that there are many houses in the area which are unoccupied, that screaming would often be ignored under the assumption that it was related to domestic issues and lastly, that neighbours just don't know or interact with each other as much these days.


  • Posts: 8,092 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Unreal story, it's shocking to think what these girls have gone through. So many lives ruined by a few evil people. How the hell did they get away with it for so long? As Charles said in the interview he acted like a "normal" person giving nothing away. It's scary to think how many missing person cases have resulted in something similar. I hope it distills in everyone's mind going forward if you ever see/hear anything bizarre question it, don't just walk away. There are far too many active predators out there.

    For the people already shouting conspiracy give it a rest. Have the respect for these brave women who persevered through something you can't even come near to contemplating.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,419 ✭✭✭ToddyDoody


    If they're clever, they'll get more than one book out of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,775 ✭✭✭✭kfallon


    Here's the 911 call, this guy is one hell of a legend, be warned there is some swearing it it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,461 ✭✭✭--Kaiser--


    Al Capwned wrote: »
    I read a book called Room by Emma Donoghoe a couple years ago.

    Chillingly similar. I shudder to think what those girls went through,

    For ****s sake, Room was written after the Elizabeth Fritzl and Natascha Kampusch abduction cases. It's not like it predicted this thing happening


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 246 ✭✭Capri86


    tricky D wrote: »
    Heard an interview about an hour or two ago on this matter with a local journalist. He pointed out that there are many houses in the area which are unoccupied, that screaming would often be ignored under the assumption that it was related to domestic issues and lastly, that neighbours just don't know or interact with each other as much these days.


    I didn't realise there were a lot of houses boarded up in the area. That explains why no one was suspicious about his house.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,897 ✭✭✭Means Of Escape


    Can't rule out Stockholm syndrome either .


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 862 ✭✭✭Grand Moff Tarkin


    His 911 call is the stuff of legend.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 698 ✭✭✭belcampprisoner


    Something Wrong When Little Pretty White Girl Run into Black Man's Arms

    Charles Ramsey


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Qbv7vGthUQ


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,594 ✭✭✭DoozerT6


    This whole story is amazing, really hope the girls are able to have sense of normality in their lives from here on out.

    Having said that, I'm concerned about the false hope this could give to other families out there with a missing loved one...

    That came to my mind too :( I'm sure there are parents of children all over the world who went missing years ago, who were perhaps coming to terms with the fact that their child will most likely never return home, who will see this story and drag up the old feelings of 'what if my child is being held prisoner and abused?' Could you even begin to hope that they were still alive after seeing this story on the news? How would you mentally process it?

    I feel so, so sorry for these parents. I mean, look at all these abduction stories worldwide that have emerged over the past several years. If your child was taken, could you ever be really sure they weren't being held prisoner like this if a body was never found? Chilling. I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.

    That is of course, not even taking into account the ordeal of the kidnapees themselves. I simply cannot imagine.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭ilovesleep


    I don't know what's stranger, this story, or Charles Ramsey, the fella who found the girls.

    Saw him on the news. He was loving all the attention but to be honest and imo he's entitled to it. He helped when the lady when running to his house.

    God, those poor women. I don't want to think about what they would have been through but delighted that they are free now. I hope they get all the help that they need.

    It was reported on the news that there was five other pregnancies. The babies were probably all killed.

    Fcuking scum who did that. The fcuking cut of them on the news. I hope they get tortured and die a very slow and painful death.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 521 ✭✭✭mbur


    ilovesleep wrote: »
    Saw him on the news. He was loving all the attention but to be honest and imo he's entitled to it. He helped when the lady when running to his house.

    The interview I saw, (post #8 in this thread) had him running to her house and kicking in a door panel. I was listening to RTE all day today and he was mentioned early on as the rescuer. Later they went with the 'running to his house' version. someone wants his role downplayed perhaps. His initial 911 call is never mentioned..


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 698 ✭✭✭belcampprisoner


    Dispatcher: Sir, sir you have to calm down and slow down. Is she still in the street?


    Caller: Seymour Avenue.


    Dispatcher: Is she still in the street or where did she go?


    Caller: Yeah I'm looking at her, she right now. She calling you all, she on the other phone.


    Dispatcher: Is she black, white or Hispanic?


    Caller: Err she's white, but the baby looks Hispanic
    : Okay what is she wearing?


    Caller: Err white tank top, light blue sweat pants, like a wife-beater.


    Dispatcher: Do you know the address next door that she said she was in?


    Caller: Yes 2207, I'm looking at it.


    Dispatcher: Okay I thought that was your address, that house.


    Caller: No, I'm smarter than that, I'm telling you where the crime was, not my house.


    Dispatcher: Sir we can't talk at the same time, do you want to leave your name and number?


    Caller: Charles Ramsey, R a m s e y.
    Dispatcher: Are the people she said that did this do you know if they are still in the house?


    Caller: I don't have a (MUTED) clue, bro, I just got out of McDonald's
    Dispatcher: Can you ask her if she needs an ambulance.


    Caller: You need an ambulance or what? She needs everything, she's in a panic bro, she's been kidnapped so you know put yourself in her shoes.


    Dispatcher: We'll send the police out. Thank you


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,094 ✭✭✭TO.


    H3llR4iser wrote: »
    Yet, nobody finds it strange that three people are supposedly locked up in an house, in what is a quite populated residential estate, for 10 years with nobody hearing, seeing or suspecting anything?

    The biggest question for me is how can someone go 10 years with 3 girls in his basement undetected.

    Just these two points. One of my friends in the US has a basement you could fire of an AK 47 in and you wouldn't hear a thing. I spend a lot of time in the US and will be moving there. Trust me when I say it there is plenty of basements there, in seemingly normal looking houses that you could have a rock band play in and you wouldn't know it. Not totally unbelievable to have 3 people locked up without knowing they are there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 927 ✭✭✭AngeGal


    ToddyDoody wrote: »
    If they're clever, they'll get more than one book out of it.

    Yeah, they're fierce lucky eh :rolleyes:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,305 ✭✭✭April O Neill


    Having said that, I'm concerned about the false hope this could give to other families out there with a missing loved one...

    Well, there's not a whole lot one can do about that really. The only thing that could be done would be to dial down the coverage, that's it really.


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