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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭IM0


    maddie thread ressurection in 3, 2....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,753 ✭✭✭davet82


    IM0 wrote: »
    maddie thread ressurection in 3, 2....

    Friday was the 6th year anniversary of her disappearance if it didn't happen then it wont happen at all, unless you do it of course ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,753 ✭✭✭davet82


    In a bizarre twist it was also revealed kidnapper Castro's son Anthony, now 31, wrote a story about the disappearance of Amanda Berry in 2004 when he was journalism student.

    weird


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Fukuyama


    A good news story for once. Family and friends of these girls, must be over the moon right now. Hopefully life in prison will be dished out to the kunts involved.

    I was thinking about that a when I read this on RTE this morning.

    But it has been 10 years. They all presumed she was dead, grieved and moved on.

    Particularly friends. I mean, they would have all graduated from school, gone off to college, and are spread out around the US or rest of the world even.

    Her family could have been split up by this. The mother died from a broken heart and her siblings may have all gone their separate ways by now with lives of their own.

    That poor girl has literally no life to speak of now. A decade is one hell of a hole to have to just skip over in your life. Not to mention the profound psychological issues they'll have from being held for so long and, as is almost universally the case with instances like these, the sexual abuse.

    :(


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 99,586 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    davet82 wrote: »
    Freaky, would make you wonder how many other people are being held captive that have gone missing!
    How many non-Irish children have gone missing here ?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,430 ✭✭✭Ilik Urgee


    errlloyd wrote: »
    This is an epic interivew. Watch it through.


    "White girl run into a black man's arms, I know something's wrong".:pac:

    Charles is making the most of his 5 minutes of fame.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,195 ✭✭✭Corruptedmorals


    montyrebel wrote: »
    the guy arrested ariel castro, some name that. was apparently a school bus driver at one stage and his brothers were arrested with him??

    how ****ed up is his family

    Very, his daughter is in jail for attempting to kill her baby.


  • Posts: 26,920 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Can you imagine getting freed from captivity after so many years, only to find out your mother died while you were in there?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,753 ✭✭✭davet82


    How many non-Irish children have gone missing here ?

    I don't know, sort of don't think I want to either after reading this story!

    scary stuff


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭IM0


    Can you imagine getting freed from captivity after so many years, only to find out your mother died while you were in there?

    :(


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 240 ✭✭The Barefoot Pizza Thief


    IM0 wrote: »
    :(

    John McCarthy was shown footage of his mother on the news campaigning for his release once when about a year and a half into his captivity and then when he was finally released, four years later, his Dad met him but told him that his mother had died two years before.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,368 ✭✭✭allym


    errlloyd wrote: »
    This is an epic interivew. Watch it through.


    He is just dying to be the new "ain't nobody got time for that".
    I love him!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,192 ✭✭✭✭Kerrydude1981


    Mental stuff.

    Could be a film about this in a few years time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,026 ✭✭✭H3llR4iser


    Yet, nobody finds it strange that three people are supposedly locked up in an house, in what is a quite populated residential estate, for 10 years with nobody hearing, seeing or suspecting anything?

    Icing on the cake, the main suspect he is a school bus driver: a 50-odd single man (divorced), living in an house that looks like a bunker with blocked out windows, doing a job that puts him in contact with children all the time...in today's hyper-worrying, ultra-suspicious world that would be much more than enough to have just about every pair of eyes in the neighbourhood trained on him 24/7, especially in a suburban, provincial area where people most likely spend a lot of time just nosing on their neighbours.

    Then, after 10 years of perfectly covering their activities, the alleged kidnappers let it slip so gloriously that the three girls escape...sorry but I can't buy it at face value, there are too many things that don't quite fit in place. I hope a serious investigation takes place, there could be much more running behind the scenes and more people could be involved...and the three alleged victims should be questioned properly, rather than start a dollar-racking tour of each and every talk show on cable TV.


  • Posts: 26,219 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    H3llR4iser wrote: »
    Yet, nobody finds it strange that three people are supposedly locked up in an house, in what is a quite populated residential estate, for 10 years with nobody hearing, seeing or suspecting anything?

    I hope a serious investigation takes place, there could be much more running behind the scenes and more people could be involved...and the three alleged victims should be questioned properly, rather than start a dollar-racking tour of each and every talk show on cable TV.

    Are you suggesting they are somehow complicit in their disappearances? Even the girl who was a child of 13?

    That's a pretty big leap.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭B0jangles


    H3llR4iser wrote: »
    Yet, nobody finds it strange that three people are supposedly locked up in an house, in what is a quite populated residential estate, for 10 years with nobody hearing, seeing or suspecting anything?

    Icing on the cake, the main suspect he is a school bus driver: a 50-odd single man (divorced), living in an house that looks like a bunker with blocked out windows, doing a job that puts him in contact with children all the time...in today's hyper-worrying, ultra-suspicious world that would be much more than enough to have just about every pair of eyes in the neighbourhood trained on him 24/7, especially in a suburban, provincial area where people most likely spend a lot of time just nosing on their neighbours.

    Then, after 10 years of perfectly covering their activities, the alleged kidnappers let it slip so gloriously that the three girls escape...sorry but I can't buy it at face value, there are too many things that don't quite fit in place. I hope a serious investigation takes place, there could be much more running behind the scenes and more people could be involved...and the three alleged victims should be questioned properly, rather than start a dollar-racking tour of each and every talk show on cable TV.

    Yes, three unconnected girls/women taken at different times in different places signed up for a 10 year plan which would see them at best totally isolated from their friends and families, all for that sweet, sweet talk-show circuit money....

    I think your tinfoil hat has slipped down and is blocking your air supply dude.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,420 ✭✭✭Lollipops23


    This whole story is amazing, really hope the girls are able to have sense of normality in their lives from here on out.

    Having said that, I'm concerned about the false hope this could give to other families out there with a missing loved one...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,026 ✭✭✭H3llR4iser


    B0jangles wrote: »
    Yes, three unconnected girls/women taken at different times in different places signed up for a 10 year plan which would see them at best totally isolated from their friends and families, all for that sweet, sweet talk-show circuit money....

    I think your tinfoil hat has slipped down and is blocking your air supply dude.

    And who tells you they weren't actually trying to run from their "friends and families", and maybe ended up even worse?

    Sure, go into the "tinfoil hat" jokes and ignore that the whole thing is strange. Let's just believe fact at face value and be happy, why not. Let's even bend reality and say the girls were abducted from different places, which they weren't (they disappeared from the same general location).

    Investigation? What's the need for it, there's a big bad guy with his brothers to blame, and if there are other people involved (somebody close to the girls, maybe? It's often the case) who cares.

    And an entire neighborhood that is apparently blind and deaf? Ah sure, it happens all the time. Even when a small child suddenly appears in the company of an aging man that lives in a shut-off house, or the neighbour hear screaming from an invisible woman. Woman that at some point gave birth as well, mind you, without anybody noticing anything.

    Let's also ignore the fact that the girl calling 911 identified herself as the "girl that was all over the news", so she clearly had access to TV and news programs; And also ignore the fact she apparently said "kidnapped me and my daughter"; Daughter that clearly wasn't born yet when she was kidnapped.

    Sure let's all be happy, and make silly tinfoil hat remarks at anybody that would be cautious before drawing any conclusions.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,298 ✭✭✭Duggys Housemate


    H3llR4iser wrote: »
    Yet, nobody finds it strange that three people are supposedly locked up in an house, in what is a quite populated residential estate, for 10 years with nobody hearing, seeing or suspecting anything?

    Icing on the cake, the main suspect he is a school bus driver: a 50-odd single man (divorced), living in an house that looks like a bunker with blocked out windows, doing a job that puts him in contact with children all the time...in today's hyper-worrying, ultra-suspicious world that would be much more than enough to have just about every pair of eyes in the neighbourhood trained on him 24/7, especially in a suburban, provincial area where people most likely spend a lot of time just nosing on their neighbours.

    Then, after 10 years of perfectly covering their activities, the alleged kidnappers let it slip so gloriously that the three girls escape...sorry but I can't buy it at face value, there are too many things that don't quite fit in place. I hope a serious investigation takes place, there could be much more running behind the scenes and more people could be involved...and the three alleged victims should be questioned properly, rather than start a dollar-racking tour of each and every talk show on cable TV.

    The "alleged victims".

    I've heard it all now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,451 ✭✭✭Lord Trollington


    If this story was the plot for an upcoming movie script, I would say it wouldn't get next or near production stage.

    The whole thing is quite unbelievable.

    It will take many days,weeks,months for the whole story to come out.

    The biggest question for me is how can someone go 10 years with 3 girls in his basement undetected.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    If this story was the plot for an upcoming movie script, I would say it wouldn't get next or near production stage.

    The whole thing is quite unbelievable.

    It will take many days,weeks,months for the whole story to come out.

    The biggest question for me is how can someone go 10 years with 3 girls in his basement undetected.


    I cant understand it. Therefore it couldnt happen.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,298 ✭✭✭Duggys Housemate


    H3llR4iser wrote: »
    And who tells you they weren't actually trying to run from their "friends and families", and maybe ended up even worse?

    Sure, go into the "tinfoil hat" jokes and ignore that the whole thing is strange. Let's just believe fact at face value and be happy, why not. Let's even bend reality and say the girls were abducted from different places, which they weren't (they disappeared from the same general location).

    Investigation? What's the need for it, there's a big bad guy with his brothers to blame, and if there are other people involved (somebody close to the girls, maybe? It's often the case) who cares.

    And an entire neighborhood that is apparently blind and deaf? Ah sure, it happens all the time. Even when a small child suddenly appears in the company of an aging man that lives in a shut-off house, or the neighbour hear screaming from an invisible woman. Woman that at some point gave birth as well, mind you, without anybody noticing anything.

    Let's also ignore the fact that the girl calling 911 identified herself as the "girl that was all over the news", so she clearly had access to TV and news programs; And also ignore the fact she apparently said "kidnapped me and my daughter"; Daughter that clearly wasn't born yet when she was kidnapped.

    Sure let's all be happy, and make silly tinfoil hat remarks at anybody that would be cautious before drawing any conclusions.

    No. I still think you need a fun foil hat.

    The problem with conspiracy theorists is while you find minor holes in the "official" version you find no holes in your alternative version - which in this case apparantly means the "alleged victims" kidnapped themselves for ten years until they decided enough time had gone by to make money on the "TV circuit", aided and abetted by the entire neighbourhood.

    Of these two theories I go with the simpler kidnapping.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 127 ✭✭DeadlyH83


    allym wrote: »
    He is just dying to be the new "ain't nobody got time for that".
    I love him!

    Hahahaha
    Brilliant


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,298 ✭✭✭Duggys Housemate


    If this story was the plot for an upcoming movie script, I would say it wouldn't get next or near production stage.

    The whole thing is quite unbelievable.

    It will take many days,weeks,months for the whole story to come out.

    The biggest question for me is how can someone go 10 years with 3 girls in his basement undetected.

    Presumably it's sound proof. This is hardly the first basement kidnapping in American history.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 246 ✭✭Capri86


    Sweet Browns husband (ain't nobody got time for that) says he often saw his neighbour on the street and thought nothing of it. All his windows were boarded up, presumably for some time. Odd that no one thought he was a strange character because of it.

    Just had a look on Google maps so I'm guessing his windows have been boarded up for a long time. Scary to think in that picture that by he girls are in there...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Fukuyama


    Not exactly unheared of.

    There was a case in the US where a girl was kept in a basement during her 'growing' years with no sunlight and strapped to a chair.

    Fritzel case springs to mind too.

    There is three males involved here. I doubt it'd be too hard for three blokes to dig down into the foundations and build a basic cell structure down there.

    Also, the neighborhood seems a little rough. So it's not like people are visiting one another, chatting over the fence etc....

    The poster a few posts back also mentioned the "talk show circuit".

    Whatever about how that's in appalling bad taste to even draw comment on, I seriously doubt it'll happen for a long long time. We have yet to get a glimmer of the eldest child (now a woman) that Fritzel imprisoned in Austria. What makes you think that this girl (who was presumably kept in similar circumstances, and seems to have given birth at least one) would be capable of chatting to Oprah?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 984 ✭✭✭ViveLaVie


    H3llR4iser wrote: »
    And who tells you they weren't actually trying to run from their "friends and families", and maybe ended up even worse?

    Sure, go into the "tinfoil hat" jokes and ignore that the whole thing is strange. Let's just believe fact at face value and be happy, why not. Let's even bend reality and say the girls were abducted from different places, which they weren't (they disappeared from the same general location).

    Investigation? What's the need for it, there's a big bad guy with his brothers to blame, and if there are other people involved (somebody close to the girls, maybe? It's often the case) who cares.

    And an entire neighborhood that is apparently blind and deaf? Ah sure, it happens all the time. Even when a small child suddenly appears in the company of an aging man that lives in a shut-off house, or the neighbour hear screaming from an invisible woman. Woman that at some point gave birth as well, mind you, without anybody noticing anything.

    Let's also ignore the fact that the girl calling 911 identified herself as the "girl that was all over the news", so she clearly had access to TV and news programs; And also ignore the fact she apparently said "kidnapped me and my daughter"; Daughter that clearly wasn't born yet when she was kidnapped.

    Sure let's all be happy, and make silly tinfoil hat remarks at anybody that would be cautious before drawing any conclusions.

    Get a grip.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,904 ✭✭✭cadaliac


    If the neighbourhood is rough, then boarded up windows is common enough.
    People don't speak to their neighbours in Ireland let alone a rough neighbourhood where you keep yourself to yourself if you know whats good for you.
    As bad as the situation is, I don't find it one bit difficult to see how this could have gone un-noticed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,814 ✭✭✭Gone Drinking


    What I thought was funny was the 911 call.

    The girl was clearly distressed and in dire need of some assurance. The man or woman on the other end "yeah, someone will be there as soon as there's a free car. Tell them when they arrive. Just tell them when they arrive"

    H3llR4iser, obivously there will be an investigation.

    You're jumping to conclusions more than anyone else is. You've no idea where they were being kept in that house, or the circumstances of how one girl got as far as the door to scream for help.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,893 ✭✭✭Hannibal Smith


    Has anyone read that book Room? Its a story based on these kinds of cases. I don't think its based on any true story, but it kind of opens your mind into what people go through and what happens after they're released.

    I'm so delighted the girls got out and weren't killed. however traumatised they are, at least they get a second crack at life and it wasn't all completely stolen from them by these animals.


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