Clermont vs Munster buildup thread **read post one

thomond2006 · 25-04-2013 10:58PM

Lelantos wrote: »

Even a broken clock is right twice a day

touché!

thomond2006 · 26-04-2013 12:17AM

Worth a read for those with French: http://www.rugbyrama.fr/pierre-villepreux_blog105/pierre-villepreux_post1050690/blogpostfull.shtml

thomond2006 · 26-04-2013 08:25AM

Vosloo has also been ruled out, a potential backrow now is Bonnaire, Lapandry and Chouly. Vosloo is an excellent player, Lapandry is more of a traditional openside IIRC.

vienne86 · 26-04-2013 08:56AM

Clermont by 1-10

Best of luck, Munster. Really rooting for ye....we were considered really up against it in Bordeaux last year and look what happened - we're tearing home from the RDS to scream at telly. G'wan Munster!

totallegend · 26-04-2013 09:16AM

Clermont by 1-10

Vosloo is a big loss, Lapandry is excellent but doesn't have the same physicality.

Buer · 26-04-2013 09:19AM

thomond2006 wrote: »

Vosloo has also been ruled out, a potential backrow now is Bonnaire, Lapandry and Chouly. Vosloo is an excellent player, Lapandry is more of a traditional openside IIRC.

I'm not sure if people realise what a massive boost that is. Vosloo is someone like Jennings. When he performs, Clermont perform. Vosloo is a more powerful and canny operator than Lapandry who is a more willowy type; he's a good line out option but a little light and I don't think he's suited to the all out madness that this game will be in the trenches whilst Vosloo would relish it.

With Chouly having been carrying a knock all week their back row is looking a lot less dominant all of a sudden.

.ak · 26-04-2013 09:23AM

Vosloo out is massive. The ASM fans I've talked to reckon he's their SOB actually. When Clermont were stuttering in the first few against Montpellier in the Q4 he grabbed the game by the scruff and literally turned it upside down and shook it like a bully would fishing for loose change of his victim.

I had a dream last night that Munster would win. If they do, you can all buy me a pint.

Otacon · 26-04-2013 09:27AM

.ak wrote: »

I had a dream last night that Munster would win. If they do, you can all buy me a pint.

F*ck the pint. You can have a nice bottle of 12 year old Glenfiddich on me if Munster win!

Lelantos · 26-04-2013 09:28AM

Keith Earls is fit & expected to start.

.ak · 26-04-2013 09:32AM

The balance is tipping in Munster's favour...

.ak · 26-04-2013 09:33AM

P.S I'm obviously clairvoyant.

Otacon · 26-04-2013 09:38AM

To get the juices flowing...

Buer · 26-04-2013 09:39AM

Lelantos wrote: »

Keith Earls is fit & expected to start.

Interesting. Earls has often struggled against big, physical wingers in the past. With his lack of game time, I genuinely wonder if it's the right call as he cannot be match fit. He's a great winger but Nalaga/Sivivatu would have no qualms about running right down his throat. Malzieu had great success with it previously so it won't be an untested tactic for them.

Sabre0001 · 26-04-2013 09:41AM

Munster Rugby ‏@Munsterrugby 12m
MunXV:Jones; Earls,Laulala,Downey, Zebo;ROG, Murray;Kilcoyne,Sherry,Botha;D Ryan,POC capt; O’Mahony,O’Donnell, Coughlan.#MarchToMontpellier

Munster Rugby ‏@Munsterrugby 11m
Replacements: D Varley, W du Preez, J Ryan, B Holland, P Butler, C Sheridan, I Keatley, D Hurley, J Murphy. #MarchToMontpellier

Lelantos · 26-04-2013 09:43AM

Sabre0001 wrote: »

Munster Rugby ‏@Munsterrugby 12m
MunXV:Jones; Earls,Laulala,Downey, Zebo;ROG, Murray;Kilcoyne,Sherry,Botha;D Ryan,POC capt; O’Mahony,O’Donnell, Coughlan.#MarchToMontpellier

Munster Rugby ‏@Munsterrugby 11m
Replacements: D Varley, W du Preez, J Ryan, B Holland, P Butler, C Sheridan, I Keatley, D Hurley, J Murphy. #MarchToMontpellier

As expected I think, now start a match thread someone!

Otacon · 26-04-2013 09:50AM

Sabre0001 wrote: »

Munster Rugby ‏@Munsterrugby 12m
MunXV:Jones; Earls,Laulala,Downey, Zebo;ROG, Murray;Kilcoyne,Sherry,Botha;D Ryan,POC capt; O’Mahony,O’Donnell, Coughlan.#MarchToMontpellier

Munster Rugby ‏@Munsterrugby 11m
Replacements: D Varley, W du Preez, J Ryan, B Holland, P Butler, C Sheridan, I Keatley, D Hurley, J Murphy. #MarchToMontpellier

A 24-man squad?

Anyway, a big ask if John Ryan is asked to participate in any way.

CIARAN_BOYLE · 26-04-2013 09:52AM

Clermont by 1-10

Otacon wrote: »

A 24-man squad?

Anyway, a big ask if John Ryan is asked to participate in any way.

Probably there is doubts about someone's fitness (possibly earls) so an extra was named.

Will this be Earls first start at 14?

Lelantos · 26-04-2013 10:07AM

When we win this game, will ROG be mentioned as a bolter for the Lions?

.ak · 26-04-2013 10:08AM

Lelantos wrote: »

When we win this game, will ROG be mentioned as a bolter for the Lions?

Let me sleep on it.

Grimebox · 26-04-2013 10:15AM

Clermont by 1-10

Probably the last chance I'll be on here till kick-off. Best of luck lads, I'll be rooting for ya

thomond2006 · 26-04-2013 10:32AM

Munster:
F Jones; K Earls, C Laulala, J Downey, S Zebo; R O’Gara, C Murray;
D Kilcoyne, M Sherry, BJ Botha; D Ryan, P O’Connell capt; P O’Mahony, T O’Donnell, J Coughlan.

Replacements: D Varley, W du Preez, J Ryan, B Holland, P Butler, C Sheridan, I Keatley, D Hurley.

with DOCII and Johne Murphy travelling as cover.

Great to see Earls back!

.ak · 26-04-2013 10:37AM

Good team, weak bench, Munster must win it within the first 60 or else....

jamiedav2011 · 26-04-2013 11:11AM

Clermont team from: http://www.asm-rugby.com/130426-composition-asm.html

1.Domingo, 2.Kayser, 3.Zirakashvili , 4.Cudmore, 5.Hines, 6.Bonnaire ©, 7.Bardy, 8.Chouly, 9.Parra, 10.James, 11.Nalaga, 12.Fofana, 13.King, 14.Sivivatu, 15.Byrne. Substitutes: 16.Paulo, 17.Debaty, 18.Ric, 19.Pierre, 20.Lapandry, 21.Radosavljevic, 22.Buttin, 23.Nakaitaci or thomas.

No Rougerie, King in for him.

Few injuries for them aswell, though still a strong 22.

Bardy is a big tough, physical fcuker so won't take too much away, but Vosloo is a loss.

thomond2006 · 26-04-2013 11:18AM

Lelantos wrote: »

As expected I think, now start a match thread someone!

Just writing one now, should be done by 1pm.

totallegend · 26-04-2013 11:21AM

Clermont by 1-10

jamiedav2011 wrote: »

1.Domingo, 2.Kayser, 3.Zirakashvili , 4.Cudmore, 5.Hines, 6.Bonnaire ©, 7.Bardy, 8.Chouly, 9.Parra, 10.James, 11.Nalaga, 12.Fofana, 13.King, 14.Sivivatu, 15.Byrne. Substitutes: 16.Paulo, 17.Debaty, 18.Ric, 19.Pierre, 20.Lapandry, 21.Radosavljevic, 22.Buttin, 23.Nakaitaci or thomas Skrela.

FYP there.

Bardy's propensity to give away penalties might be exploited by Munster.

jamiedav2011 · 26-04-2013 11:22AM

Strikes me that that Clermont team is slightly lacking that unquantifiable term 'leadership'?

Only Hines and Bonnaire I would particularly class as leaders, and particularly in the backs, where Parra can be flaky and James too, Rougerie is a big loss.

King is experienced, and will need to step up.

Has he played much for them this season does anyone know?

jamiedav2011 · 26-04-2013 11:24AM

totallegend wrote: »

FYP there.

Bardy's propensity to give away penalties might be exploited by Munster.

Ah, was wondering who Thomas was! Good old Google translate strikes again!

.ak · 26-04-2013 11:26AM

Bonnaire is the cornerstone to that team. If he plays well, the rest will follow. Can't remember who the nominated European players of the year are, but if Bonnaire is on the short list I'd be nominating him.

Larbre34 · 26-04-2013 11:37AM

Munster by more than 10

jamiedav2011 wrote: »

Strikes me that that Clermont team is slightly lacking that unquantifiable term 'leadership'?

Only Hines and Bonnaire I would particularly class as leaders, and particularly in the backs, where Parra can be flaky and James too, Rougerie is a big loss.

King is experienced, and will need to step up.

Has he played much for them this season does anyone know?

This has got very interesting. I think Munster are a more balanced XV than ASM, if the totems play well and dont let the likes of Bonnaire and James into the game then it could be a momentum thing. Cudmore and Hines will probably get themselves in trouble at some point, Im expecting a hugely physical game from Downey, he loves a good battle royal

I hate to admit it but Im dying to flee the RDS tomorrow (with the result in the bag) and get a good perch for this one. Fascinating.

molloyjh · 26-04-2013 11:42AM

Munster by 1-10

Larbre34 wrote: »

This has got very interesting. I think Munster are a more balanced XV than ASM, if the totems play well and dont let the likes of Bonnaire and James into the game then it could be a momentum thing. Cudmore and Hines will probably get themselves in trouble at some point, Im expecting a hugely physical game from Downey, he loves a good battle royal

I hate to admit it but Im dying to flee the RDS tomorrow (with the result in the bag) and get a good perch for this one. Fascinating.

I don't know. Looking at those line-ups I think Clermont have the edge pretty much everywhere except the second row. And they most certainly have the edge on the bench. The difference in the second rows isn't huge either. I can't see Munster dominating the line-out like they did against Quins. What platform is going to get them the scores?

Clermont vs Munster buildup thread **read post one

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