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Do you regret not going to college

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  • 22-04-2013 7:10am
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    Registered Users Posts: 16,383 ✭✭✭✭


    Just wondering what other people who never went to college think about this.

    College wasn't an option for me when I did the Leaving in 1992 as I come from a poor backround and you still had to pay to go at that time, and I only scraped a pass anyway.

    I went straight into work and thankfully apart from being out for work for 3 weeks have always been able to get work and pay the bills.

    But most people want to do better for themselves and earn more money and these days if you don't have a degree the chances of getting a well paid job are slim IMO.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 496 ✭✭bette


    No!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,284 ✭✭✭Chattastrophe!


    I think, if anything, most people would be sad that they didn't have the opportunity to go to college.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,065 ✭✭✭crazygeryy


    no.
    i wasnt intelligent enough :) but i got a job had money and watched how my student friends lived in poverty and no thanks no effing thanks.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,161 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    I'm annoyed I didn't make more out of my time in college. I dropped out. The thing is I am academically minded and whould be far more comfortable studying all day long then being in boring job.
    I went back years later and am now getting my first degree this year. Following on with a masters. Then probably another masters.

    It means I'm now working to pay my way through what has become an addiction to education.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 961 ✭✭✭TEMPLAR KNIGHT


    My father would have loved to have went onto college but he didn't have the money, but he's extremely happy that he has the money to give me the education he never had. And I'll always appreciate that about him!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,328 ✭✭✭lazeedaisy


    it was the mid 80's when i did my leaving and did not have the opportunity to go on to colllege - mind you my parents were happy enough since i completed my leaving - the only one of 5 to do so.

    5 years ago i went to college and have completed a masters and am glad i got the chance -

    Education is not for everyone but nowadays its common to go back as a mature student


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,754 ✭✭✭oldyouth


    No regrets. I don't think I would be where I am now if I had gone to college. I wouldn't have been able to apply myself, as required. The social aspect that my sons enjoy at college wasn't around to the same extent back then anyway


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,573 ✭✭✭pragmatic1


    I went to college but didn't do as well as I could have. Hopefully in a few years time I'll save enough money to go back and do my master. Then I'll be mature enough to get the best out of it.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 548 ✭✭✭Three Seasons


    Grayson wrote: »
    I'm annoyed I didn't make more out of my time in college. I dropped out. The thing is I am academically minded and whould be far more comfortable studying all day long then being in boring job.
    I went back years later and am now getting my first degree this year. Following on with a masters. Then probably another masters.

    It means I'm now working to pay my way through what has become an addiction to education.

    Would you not just go to a library and educate yourself for free?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,448 ✭✭✭crockholm


    As my body starts to tire,I regret not making the most of my brief stint in 3rd level education, I picked the wrong course for the wrong reasons(keep the ol man happy), I enjoy what I do(tradesman) but I also look back with envy and regret.

    Only if the young lad is a complete doofus,will I encourage him to pick up the trowel.Otherwise,education,education,education. I'm not yet 34 and have tennis elbow in both elbows,a shoddy hip,lower back pains becoming more frequent,stiffness in the fingers(no jokes,down the back).

    Like I said, I love my work,but for any young man full of hubris entering into the trades,just be aware that you will see broken men in their 40s and 50s,yet will soon be expected to keep working until 70+,be safe,take manual handling seriously,ask for help if something is heavy,don't take risks that could affect your health.


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I regret going to college to be perfectly honest. I was always one of the top students in my school, got 570 in my Leaving and it was just assumed I'd go on to do well at 3rd level as well. But I started college as a very naive 17 year old, ended up hating my course but was too scared/stubborn to drop out, suffered from depression but didn't tell any of my lecturers for fear that they wouldn't believe me. Ended up with a 2.2 (not a terrible result but by no means good either) and now struggle horribly to find a job 'cause employers only want someone with a 2.1 or higher, or even someone without a college education but with plenty of work experience. :(

    If I ever manage to find a job I'll consider working for a few years with the aim of saving up some money and going back to study something I actually enjoy or care about. Just haven't figured out what that is yet.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,448 ✭✭✭crockholm


    I regret going to college to be perfectly honest. I was always one of the top students in my school, got 570 in my Leaving and it was just assumed I'd go on to do well at 3rd level as well. But I started college as a very naive 17 year old, ended up hating my course but was too scared/stubborn to drop out, suffered from depression but didn't tell any of my lecturers for fear that they wouldn't believe me. Ended up with a 2.2 (not a terrible result but by no means good either) and now struggle horribly to find a job 'cause employers only want someone with a 2.1 or higher, or even someone without a college education but with plenty of work experience. :(

    If I ever manage to find a job I'll consider working for a few years with the aim of saving up some money and going back to study something I actually enjoy or care about. Just haven't figured out what that is yet.

    Hang in there man,work hard and don't lose sight of your goals.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,050 ✭✭✭token101


    Would you not just go to a library and educate yourself for free?

    I don't think "Went to library" would really hold up on a CV to be honest.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,324 ✭✭✭BillyMitchel


    I regret leaving the education system! Back September for post grad so all is good :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 453 ✭✭Mazeire


    I think that you need a degree now. I worked as an admin/PA and got laid off in 2010 after 3 years. Prior to that you could get a job in that area based on your skill set (typing speed etc.) and your experience. Now they want you to have all of that AND a degree. It doesn't matter what its in, they just want you to have that piece of paper. It's an employers market out there. One of the down sides of that period of free education was that so many people are qualified to their back, teeth now. that employers really do have the pick of the crop when it comes to hiring. It is getting to a point that in order to function n Ireland you need some sort of degree. Hell even if you want to leave, your chances of getting a permanent visa are much better with a degree.
    I think that anyone who has the means and opportunity to do so should go back to college.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭Kinski


    token101 wrote: »
    I don't think "Went to library" would really hold up on a CV to be honest.

    And you'll receive no teaching, no guidance, no assessments, no feedback on your progress, and public libraries don't stock the specialist literature required in academia.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    Would you not just go to a library and educate yourself for free?

    I did that but apart from having the ability to shout 'Do you like apples?' at pompous people through windows it hasn't done me much good.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    Would you not just go to a library and educate yourself for free?

    Less parties, sexual and substance experimentation and all around good times at the library though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 787 ✭✭✭parc


    The question is "Do I regret not going to college?"

    ...which makes me question; does the OP know the kind of grades one has to receive in college to be accept to a top medical school? Or if he has the vaguest idea how talented one has to be to lead a surgical team?

    I have an MD from Harvard. I am board certified in cardiothoracic medicine and trauma surgery. I have been awarded citations from seven different medical schools in New England, and I am never ever sick at sea.

    So I ask you; when someone goes into that chapel and they fall their knees and they pray to God that their wife doesn't miscarry, or that their daughter doesn't bleed to death, or that their mother doesn't suffer from acute neural trauma from post-operative shock..who do you think they're praying to?

    So you go ahead and read your bible OP, with any lucky you may win that raffle, but if you're looking for God, he was on Afterhours at 10:45 22/04/2013 and he doesn't like to be second guessed

    You ask me if I have a God complex? Let me tell you something...I AM GOD!

    This side show is over...


  • Registered Users Posts: 904 ✭✭✭Drakares


    For those who do (seems to be a good few of ye) - There's plenty of evening degrees, some of which are better than full time degrees as everyone there wants to be there and it's mostly made up of adults who are doing it to better themselves, and not kids who had to pick something after finishing school.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 453 ✭✭Mazeire


    parc wrote: »
    The question is "Do I regret not going to college?"

    ...which makes me question; does the OP know the kind of grades one has to receive in college to be accept to a top medical school? Or if he has the vaguest idea how talented one has to be to lead a surgical team?

    I have an MD from Harvard. I am board certified in cardiothoracic medicine and trauma surgery. I have been awarded citations from seven different medical schools in New England, and I am never ever sick at sea.

    So I ask you; when someone goes into that chapel and they fall their knees and they pray to God that their wife doesn't miscarry, or that their daughter doesn't bleed to death, or that their mother doesn't suffer from acute neural trauma from post-operative shock..who do you think they're praying to?

    So you go ahead and read your bible OP, with any lucky you may win that raffle, but if you're looking for God, he was on Afterhours at 10:45 22/04/2013 and he doesn't like to be second guessed

    You ask me if I have a God complex? Let me tell you something...I AM GOD!

    This side show is over...

    This post was proudly sponsored by the Colombian powdered pharmaceuticals society of Ireland.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 37,762 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Don't know if I'd go so far as to say I regret going to College. I met some really cool people but now I'm employed in a lab as a glorified cleaner earning slightly more than my flatmate who works for a call centre. Don't get me wrong, I'm grateful to not be on the dole but I wanted to be in academic research and that goal is slipping further and further away. I'd have been better off as a bank cashier working my up I reckon.

    We sat again for an hour and a half discussing maps and figures and always getting back to that most damnable creation of the perverted ingenuity of man - the County of Tyrone.

    H. H. Asquith



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    parc wrote: »
    The question is "Do I regret not going to college?"

    ...which makes me question; does the OP know the kind of grades one has to receive in college to be accept to a top medical school? Or if he has the vaguest idea how talented one has to be to lead a surgical team?

    I have an MD from Harvard. I am board certified in cardiothoracic medicine and trauma surgery. I have been awarded citations from seven different medical schools in New England, and I am never ever sick at sea.

    So I ask you; when someone goes into that chapel and they fall their knees and they pray to God that their wife doesn't miscarry, or that their daughter doesn't bleed to death, or that their mother doesn't suffer from acute neural trauma from post-operative shock..who do you think they're praying to?

    So you go ahead and read your bible OP, with any lucky you may win that raffle, but if you're looking for God, he was on Afterhours at 10:45 22/04/2013 and he doesn't like to be second guessed

    You ask me if I have a God complex? Let me tell you something...I AM GOD!

    This side show is over...

    The ego, irrelevant points and lack of empathy dripping from this post suggests only one thing to me:

    Trinity lecturer


  • Registered Users Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Sometimes,when business is slow and money is tight.but by the time i reached 6th year i was sick to the teeth of the "education" system


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭I Heart Internet


    Not answering the OP because I did go to 3rd level. We (my siblings and I) were the first generation on either side of the family to go - that's not unusual in Ireland today I'd say. We came from solid working class background and, for better or worse, would now be considered "professional/middle class" I suppose.

    For the most part I enjoyed university and think I made good decisions. Went on to do a master's abroad which really opened things up for me. Have had great opportunities due to going to 3rd level and, in particular, doing the master's. Am studying part-time (am employed) on another course. Interesting stuff and will open up other opportunities for me.

    I do believe that, in general, the more educated (and by that I mean formal qualifications, I'm afraid) you are the more OPTIONS open up for you. If the **** hits the fan you can move on or move abroad with some hope of building a career.

    But a good trade, followed well and enthusiastically, can be just the same for opening doors.

    Might be a negative way of looking at things but, at the moment, I see it as being about making yourself "unsinkable". If you can't make a living for your family in Ireland you want to be able to be attractive abroad.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,383 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    parc wrote: »
    The question is "Do I regret not going to college?"

    ...which makes me question; does the OP know the kind of grades one has to receive in college to be accept to a top medical school? Or if he has the vaguest idea how talented one has to be to lead a surgical team?

    I have an MD from Harvard. I am board certified in cardiothoracic medicine and trauma surgery. I have been awarded citations from seven different medical schools in New England, and I am never ever sick at sea.

    So I ask you; when someone goes into that chapel and they fall their knees and they pray to God that their wife doesn't miscarry, or that their daughter doesn't bleed to death, or that their mother doesn't suffer from acute neural trauma from post-operative shock..who do you think they're praying to?

    So you go ahead and read your bible OP, with any lucky you may win that raffle, but if you're looking for God, he was on Afterhours at 10:45 22/04/2013 and he doesn't like to be second guessed

    You ask me if I have a God complex? Let me tell you something...I AM GOD!

    This side show is over...

    I see you have seen the film Malice, maybe make up your own speech next time instead of stealing Alec Baldwins lines...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 573 ✭✭✭Syllabus


    I never went to college. I got a trade which enabled me to work for myeslf the time i was made redundent until things picked up


    I know of people my age (33) who are STILL in college!!!

    How many diplomas/ degrees do you need to ask 'would you like fries with that?'


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,740 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    I went to college in the mid-90s but looking back I don't know how much use it was to me as most of what I learned (Computer related course) was out-of-date by the time I finished anyway. To be fair though in those days there was a new OS almost every year and hardware was changing rapidly too.

    I then learned that the big multinationals (which lure you in with promises of training and qualifications) rarely provide these beyond the basics, and where they do agree to "sponsor" you it usually comes at a cost of x years of additional service or you pay them back - which is fair enough I suppose.

    The downside then is I have over 15 years experience but very little paperwork as I've always worked in busy environments where the last thing you want to do after a long day is start studying IT stuff (especially if that day involved maybe 2 hours from home remotely administering server updates/reboots after hours). I'm also the type who prefers to learn by doing anyway.

    Also, I think you get to a point in IT where if you want to stay "technical" you have to spend a fortune keeping current with the latest certs/tech or spend a fortune on a specialty that hopefully will reward the investment, and you're going to be up against college grads who already have the certs and who can do the job for maybe half what you'd want/need (due to them having no commitments like a mortgage, family, loans etc)

    But I have to admit, it probably hurt me a few years ago when I was made redundant but I managed to find something anyway and now I've set myself a few targets in terms of getting some certification to back up my experience.

    These days though I manage the team so there's not quite the same pressure to keep up-to-date on all the latest and greatest to the same level as I would have previously, but I still keep current and know my way around the latest server OS's etc as IT has always been a hobby as well as a career.

    Slightly off-topic rambling ends here :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,563 ✭✭✭stateofflux


    don't regret it. it is not necessary for all professions.Also, at the moment having 4 years experience in a blue chip & no degree would probably be more advantageous in a lot of situations than vice versa.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    I wish I went to college straight from LC, instead I did an apprenticeship as an electrician. That was fine until work dried up but I'm back in college now and just coming to the end of my first year :) hopefully I'll have better luck on the job front next time!!


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