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The Hazards of Belief

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 39,865 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    kirill-gadget-cross.gif

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,473 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    ^^^ If I was god, I'd have a hat like that too.

    In other news, church rules trump state law in New York when it comes to educating teenagers about diseases that can kill them:

    https://www.au.org/blogs/wall-of-separation/improper-influence-nyc-public-schools-bow-to-church-rules-on-sex-ed

    So teenagers have to leave the buildings, leave the site and in one case, go for a fifteen minute walk to learn about real and present dangers to their lives.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,192 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    An Orthodox Jew boards a plane, and - SHOCK HORROR! - there are women on board. Here's his solution:
    jpOezc5.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,850 ✭✭✭FouxDaFaFa


    It looks like he's fashioned himself a giant condom.

    I don't understand, is he not allowed to see women? Or is it something about sharing a confined space/sharing air/the risk of accidentally touching one?


  • Posts: 81,309 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Kate Echoing Tether


    How does he not suffocate in that


    Ah, here is a description
    We don't often see the classic Twin Peaks phrase "wrapped in plastic" taken so literally—but a Redditor posted the above photo of an Orthodox Jewish man who did just that on a recent flight. Poster "FinalSay" initially assumed the man was covering up because he was in front of women, but others pointed out that it is much more likely that the man is a "Kohen", who are holy priests (or descended from them).
    Kohens are prohibited from flying over cemeteries ("A kohen initially was not supposed to approach any dead body, and if he did so he became ritually impure"), which as you can imagine, could be a major problem for travel. According to Haaretz, Rabbi Yosef Shalom Eliashiv, the leader of the Lithuanian Haredi community in Israel, "found a solution to this issue, ruling that wrapping oneself in thick plastic bags while the plane crossed over the cemetery is permissible."
    http://gothamist.com/2013/04/11/photo_orthodox_jewish_man_covers_hi.php


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    bluewolf wrote: »
    How does he not suffocate in that


    Ah, here is a description

    http://gothamist.com/2013/04/11/photo_orthodox_jewish_man_covers_hi.php

    Plane being made from aluminium, carbon composites and plastic tubings seems to have no relevance. How does the plastic shield him from impurity? :confused:
    Presumably from not suffocating he's allowing the contaminated air of the plane that has flown over the cemetery into his bag?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,473 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Jernal wrote: »
    How does the plastic shield him from impurity?
    Imaginary protection is 100% effective against imaginary problems.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 39,865 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Jernal wrote: »
    Plane being made from aluminium, carbon composites and plastic tubings seems to have no relevance. How does the plastic shield him from impurity? :confused:

    Bbuuut.. you're trying to reason with religion... never works :(

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,775 ✭✭✭✭Gbear


    I saw somewhere that it's not women he's protecting himself from but flying over a cemetary.

    It doesn't make it any less bollocks I suppose.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,182 ✭✭✭Genghiz Cohen


    robindch wrote: »
    Imaginary protection is 100% effective against imaginary problems.

    Atheist quote thread go!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,672 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    robindch wrote: »
    Imaginary protection is 100% effective against imaginary problems.

    Genius :D


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,473 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Should there be more religion in primary schools? The people who stuff theJournal's polls think so!

    http://www.thejournal.ie/poll-religion-classes-primary-schools-868282-Apr2013

    At the time of writing, that's 52% in favour of more time on religion.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,232 ✭✭✭Brian Shanahan


    robindch wrote: »
    Should there be more religion in primary schools? The people who stuff theJournal's polls think so!

    http://www.thejournal.ie/poll-religion-classes-primary-schools-868282-Apr2013

    At the time of writing, that's 52% in favour of more time on religion.

    I remember talking to a former primary teacher of mine on the matter of how much time was assigned to extracurricular subjects in primary school about 4 years ago (at the time she was head of the local, rural, NS). She was really worried that only 8 1/2 hours in a week were assigned to the curriculum subjects (think English, Irish, Maths, History, Geography & Science) and the rest for non-curriculum subjects such as art, knitting and religion. She could see the point of doing most of the extra-curriculum subjects, but she was actually angry about the amount of time taken out of the school year for religious "education" despite being a catholic teacher teaching in a catholic "owned" school.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Hundreds of British Asians will gather in Parliament Square on Tuesday to
    urge MPs to introduce legal protection for those from traditionally lower-caste backgrounds.


    A coalition of community groups, human rights organisations and politicians
    has been campaigning for a change in the law that would make it an offence for people to discriminate on the grounds of caste.


    A report on the issue commissioned by the government three years
    ago
    estimated that there are between 50,000 and 200,000 people in
    Britain who are classified as low caste. The study, by the National Institute of Economic and Social Research, identified evidence of discrimination, harassment and exclusion in schools, provision of services and in the workplace.

    Another survey, published in 2009 by the Anti-Caste Discrimination
    Alliance
    , found that 58% of those questioned felt they had been
    discriminated against because of their caste status, while 78% said they did not think the police would understand if they tried to report a caste-related hate crime.
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2013/apr/15/british-asians-parliament-caste-discrimination


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,473 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Turkish pianist Fazil Say given a suspended ten-month prison sentence for "insulting islam":

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-22151212
    BBC wrote:
    World-renowned Turkish pianist Fazil Say has been given a suspended 10-month jail sentence for insulting Muslim values.

    An Istanbul court found Say guilty over a series of posts on the social networking site Twitter. Say was not in court for the sentencing. But he denied the charges, saying they were politically motivated.

    The case renewed concern about the influence of religion on politics in Turkey. Pointing to the prosecution of several artists and intellectuals for voicing their views, critics have accused the governing AK Party of undermining Turkey's secular values and pandering to Islamists.

    Prosecutors had brought the charges against Mr Say last June. He could have faced a maximum sentence of 18 months in prison. The indictment against him cited some tweets, including a retweet by Mr Say which says: "I am not sure if you have also realised it, but if there's a louse, a non-entity, a lowlife, a thief or a fool, it's always an Allah-ist."

    Mr Say has previously said he was "amazed" at the charges. Mr Say, 43, has played with the New York Philharmonic, the Berlin Symphony Orchestra and others, and has served as a cultural ambassador for the EU.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,989 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    Fazil Say has said publicly that he is an atheist. The suspended sentence means that he won't go to prison unless he "re-offends"; by saying something that could be construed as being critical of Islam within the time period. So he is now effectively muzzled, unless he stays out of Turkey for a very long time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,443 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    recedite wrote: »
    Fazil Say has said publicly that he is an atheist. The suspended sentence means that he won't go to prison unless he "re-offends"; by saying something that could be construed as being critical of Islam within the time period. So he is now effectively muzzled, unless he stays out of Turkey for a very long time.
    I've stayed out of Turkey for almost 40 years now. Its easy. I'm sure he'd be welcome here to say what he likes. We do have an anti-blasphemy law, but thus far have been sensible enough to ignore it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    VATICAN CITY -- Pope Francis has reaffirmed the Vatican's criticism of a body that represents U.S. nuns that the Church said was tainted by "radical" feminism, dashing hopes that he might take a softer stand with the sisters.

    Francis's predecessor, Benedict, decreed that the Leadership Conference of
    Women Religious (LCWR), a group that represents more than 80 percent of the 57,000 Catholic nuns in the United States, must change its ways, a ruling that the Vatican said on Monday still applied.


    Last year, a Vatican report said the LCWR had "serious doctrinal problems"
    and promoted "radical feminist themes incompatible with the Catholic faith,"
    criticizing it for taking a soft line on issues such as birth control and
    homosexuality.
    http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/15/17762930-pope-francis-reiterates-radical-feminist-criticism-of-us-nuns-group#.UW6eHNtQxXs.twitter


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 626 ✭✭✭Cork Boy


    Nodin wrote: »

    "radical feminism"... whatever genius 'person*' managed to make radical = communist/evil/eat-your-children in the english language needs to suffer, badly.

    *for the filter


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,262 ✭✭✭Andrewf20




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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,371 ✭✭✭Obliq


    Andrewf20 wrote: »

    I can't think WHY they didn't just make them wear a Burqa. Works for those irresistible wimminz, right? :mad:


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 42,361 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beruthiel


    Andrewf20 wrote: »

    I demand pictures of men who are so hot they need to be deported from a country!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,624 ✭✭✭SebBerkovich


    Beruthiel wrote: »
    I demand pictures of men who are so hot they need to be deported from a country!

    Abu-Hamza.jpg

    Pretty sure he was guilty of being to sexy for britain.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,550 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    Andrewf20 wrote: »

    They weren't relatives of Pat Mustard by any chance?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,182 ✭✭✭Genghiz Cohen


    I assume it was a man who decided they were too fabulous to be left alone, they needed a good manhandling.
    :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,624 ✭✭✭SebBerkovich


    Andrewf20 wrote: »

    Mohammed Zoolander is said to be really, really, really, ridiculously - disappointed to have been deported.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,192 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    Abu-Hamza.jpg

    Pretty sure he was guilty of being to sexy for britain.
    I swear he looks like this guy:
    sweetjesus.jpg


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 42,361 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beruthiel


    Beruthiel wrote: »
    I demand pictures of men who are so hot they need to be deported from a country!

    I've decided that these are the men involved.
    Careful now, lots of flesh involved.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,550 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    Beruthiel wrote: »
    I've decided that these are the men involved.
    Careful now, lots of flesh involved.

    Good to see the commitment to thorough research!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    I'd something something THEIR pillar of Islam.


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